r/apple • u/exjr_ Island Boy • Sep 07 '22
Apple Unveils Apple Watch Ultra With Large-Screen Design for Athletes and Explorers Apple Watch
https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/07/apple-unveils-apple-watch-pro-athletes/4.4k
u/braggpeak Sep 07 '22
A bunch of ppl gonna buy this for their 1 mile hike on a local hill
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u/rotates-potatoes Sep 07 '22
$799 is a small price to pay for the OPTION of scuba diving.
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u/dccorona Sep 07 '22
Most people who have dive watches pay several thousand, so actually yea
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u/Sfwupvoter Sep 07 '22
air integrated with trimix, yes, that's going to run in the 1500-1800 range. Suunto vyper is about $360, which is about as basic as they come.
For one that is not air integrated, has an underwater compass, data tracking including gps recording of entry/exit, simple dive stops and a few other things, about 800 seems.. ok. They REALLY need to add an AI option, but I don't think a BTLE connection to transmit remaining pressure will work under water.
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u/dccorona Sep 07 '22
Sorry, I was talking about people who justify expensive watches with the mentality “well, I could dive if I wanted to” (i.e. people buying mechanical dive watches like seamasters and submariners - and to be fair, I have one, though not because I think I might go diving with it some day…) - not people who actually dive.
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Sep 07 '22
I'm going to take up SCUBA diving after buying the watch, for sure.
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u/xxxPlatyxxx Sep 07 '22
Suit yourself, I’m not scuba diving until they release the Apple iOcean so I have something to scuba dive in
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u/Travelin_Soulja Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22
How many people spend thousands on dive watches like a Rolex Submariner or Omega Seamaster to never take them diving? Same difference.
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Sep 07 '22
The diveability of diving watches come second to the style aspect.
I can see Ultra Watches becoming very popular with the office workers who wear Patagonia to the office.
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u/OakBlueShirt Sep 07 '22
I have Scuba dived, and I will continue to. This watch doesn't do anything that reliable dive computers don't already do better.
It's kind of like a "jack of all trades" thing. But nobody wants a jack when your life is literally dependent upon the information.
It could work as a supplement to existing dive computers and air gauges and such, but even then you don't want to start relying on it and take your eyes off of the hardline devices.
I could be wrong and other divers may love this, but I see a lot of reasons to not use this while diving.
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u/mtlyoshi9 Sep 07 '22
As a diver myself, I agree that this doesn’t replace my current dive computer…mostly because I don’t dive nearly often enough to justify the bulkier watch to contend with every other day.
However, if I was a more frequent diver who wanted a bigger/more rugged watch anyway…and assuming Apple hardware and software live up to other industry devices (and there’s really no reason to believe otherwise)…then why not? Especially if my existing dive computer breaks/has any other issues that would otherwise require me to buy a new one.
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u/ex-apple Sep 07 '22
But once you buy the all new Apple Watch Ultra™, maybe you will start!
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u/RVA_RVA Sep 07 '22
Don't write off scuba! It's awesome. If you have the opportunity to do a "discover scuba" dive, do it.
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u/flux8 Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22
Which is why the Apple Watch Ultra is going to sell like hotcakes. Apple understands how to market aspirational products. Everyone buys their products because they hope it helps them become just like the pro photographer/videographer/musician/athlete/adventurer featured in their presentations. Apple makes those things feel like they’re within reach of everyone.
I’m totally getting one.
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u/Tall_Mechanic8403 Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22
Tbh this is the same for the Garmin Fenix series. 95% of buyers don’t use it for outdoor adventures. But who cares, the features are also good For normal sport use.
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u/flux8 Sep 07 '22
Can say the same for a LOT of things. Biggest thing that comes to mind are SUV’s. Also, let’s face it - a major factor is also to project an image that we are fun/adventurous/skilled/wealthy.
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u/Noblesseux Sep 07 '22
Also pick up trucks. Like the vast majority aren't used to haul anything more than like once every year or two.
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u/RWTF Sep 07 '22
I feel personally attacked.
I would however buy for the extra ruggedness and battery life but 7 gps aluminum is fine enough for me.
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u/UlrichZauber Sep 07 '22
The battery life and brighter screen are going to move a lot of units, I suspect.
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u/spacemate Sep 07 '22
100%. It’s 200 bucks more than the pricier normal option. Not a deal breaker for a lot of people and that battery life is amazing.
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Sep 07 '22
If you want the 45mm stainless steel case with any of the slightly upgraded bands (braided loop, for example), it's exactly the same price. It's a no-brainer to get the Ultra if that's the alternative.
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u/PerfectlySplendid Sep 07 '22
I just priced a ss 45mm with link bracelet and it’s 1149. Is that the bracelet jacking up the price?
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Sep 07 '22
Yeah for sure. Link bracelet is a few hundred dollars. Pick one with a base band (sport loop, sport band) and it should be $749.
Honestly I just went ahead and ordered an Ultra. I think it'll hold up better over time and it's the same price and just looks better. The renders scared me but I think when they showed it off today it looked pretty good. I can get used to it.
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Sep 07 '22
It's actually cheaper than the old Titanium Edition models by $50. Same case material, more features, and now save $50!
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u/College_Prestige Sep 07 '22
People are going to buy it thinking "I'm going to use this to dive one day"
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u/shortnamed Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22
Exactly this. Apple knows their target market well. They're selling the idea and appeal of adventures.
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u/rsplatpc Sep 07 '22
A bunch of ppl gonna buy this for their 1 mile hike on a local hill
$800 makes it really not a impulse purchase
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u/packersSB55champs Sep 07 '22
if you have disposable income for it then it's still a buy for people
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u/AliensAMenace Sep 07 '22
An Apple Watch for Indiana Jones
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u/harshmangat Sep 07 '22
799 gotta make him think twice about buying it
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u/PlantbasedBurger Sep 07 '22
I think that’s cheap. It’s a dive computer and all kinds of other things.
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Sep 07 '22
I would tend to agree with you for what you get. I had no issues shelling out $1,000 for a Garmin Epix 2 when I considered what I was getting. If the Ultra can last more than 2 complete days on a charge, I will sell my Epix.
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u/AccomplishedCoffee Sep 07 '22
IIRC it was 36 hours normal use but they’re working on a special mode that they claim will be 60 hours.
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Sep 07 '22
If I can get 60 hours with “mostly smartwatch” mode I’d likely get it. 36 hours doesn’t do it for me compared to 15 days with my Garmin Epix
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u/Shinsekai21 Sep 07 '22
Seems like the 60-hour mode would cut mostly fancy functions of the smartwatch but keep the core function of the active watch. So seems like a good deals
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u/phantasybm Sep 07 '22
Spend $300 less and with that savings spend $20 to get a little portable battery to charge it with while you sleep in your tent above the underground cavern lake you plan to scuba dive in.
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Sep 07 '22
The ultra is the same price as the Stainless Steel Series 8 45 mm. I am pretty surprised by that.
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u/superdroid100 Sep 07 '22
It’s $50 cheaper when you option the sport band on the ss.
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u/Wi11iamSun Sep 08 '22
But the band comes with the ultra worths $99, so it’s the same by the watch body themselves
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u/Breatnach Sep 07 '22
'Ultra‘, Not 'pro‘ as was speculated
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u/InternationalReport5 Sep 07 '22
LG have a trademark for 'Watch Pro', that might be something to do with it.
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u/danielbauer1375 Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22
It’s pretty ridiculous that a company can
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u/__-__-_-__ Sep 07 '22
Trademark, not patent in this case. But yeah I agree with your sentiment.
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u/StockAL3Xj Sep 07 '22
Which is a really weird choice. You'd think they'd want to keep the same suffix to be consistent let alone not copy Samsung's naming convention.
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u/RecycledAir Sep 07 '22
It's a word more familiar to athletes with respect to ultra marathons, etc. It makes sense, they are marketing this for adventure, not the professional work environment.
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u/StockAL3Xj Sep 07 '22
I suppose. Adventure would have been a good name but not very Apple-esque.
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u/ObiTwoKenobi Sep 07 '22
“Adventure” is much harder to translate in multiple languages. Ultra is ubiquitous and another great Apple name in hindsight.
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u/SilverSideDown Sep 08 '22
It was just announced today, so seems a little too early for hindsight! 😝
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u/AsherBaels Sep 07 '22
“Pro” has loses its literal meaning, so they go “Ultra” for this very niche product.
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u/lolKhamul Sep 07 '22
At the beginning i was kinda wondering why they didn't just call it "watch pro" to stay consistent with other product names but after the presentation i get it.
Apple watch ultra isn't a classic pro "upgrade", its more like a different product for extrem sport cases. Normal users have little to no advantages from getting one. Which obviously wont stop A LOT of people from getting one but still.
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u/Elranzer Sep 07 '22
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Sep 07 '22
So is the garmin descent mk2 ( dive watch + smart watch) so it’s a non issue for me. My biggest issue is it doesn’t have a free dive function like my garmin does. Hopefully it will be added
I’m genuinely surprised at the price. It’s “affordable” compared to the garmin
1200 vs 800
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u/BabyWrinkles Sep 07 '22
While they were talking about it, I was guessing an $1199 price point. Especially since it has a titanium case, which on the Series 7 ran $799.
I kind of wonder if they're hitting a lower price point this year so that more people buy in and they can see what people use it for the most and then lean in to that for future models?
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_DANKNESS Sep 07 '22
Ultra, Pro, Max, Plus, Apple’s really keeping their terms diverse lol
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u/Yellow2345 Sep 07 '22
I'm not the target market for the Watch Ultra, but that's a sweet Apple Watch.
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u/rauls4 Sep 07 '22
Speak for yourself! Now I’ll be able to climb mountains, cross deserts, dive in the ocean, get lost in Death Valley and crash my car with confidence!
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u/CompetitiveServe1385 Sep 07 '22
I fit squarely in the target market… I’m a marathon runner and triathlete. I detest using my Garmin watch so I ordered this as soon as I could.
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u/FourzerotwoFAILS Sep 07 '22
Curious to see how this handles extreme cold. As a snowboarder/skier my watch typically dies after a half day on the slopes. Hopefully this will last the day at least.
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Sep 07 '22
Lol they advertised to -20. -20 isn’t extreme cold. That’s an average day in some major Canadian cities.
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Sep 07 '22
To be fair, the tech people in Silicon Valley practically view that as apocalyptic weather.
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u/Your_Philosophy Sep 07 '22
Ugh, my iPhone 7 used to die INSTANTLY whenever I stepped outside in Montréal.
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u/anethma Sep 07 '22
I live in northern BC, drops to -40 here every winter. And not fake -40 like all the southern cities like to call it where its like -10 and windy.
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u/Martin_Samuelson Sep 07 '22
"On-wrist operating temperature"
I would assume that means the temperature of the watch, which will be significantly warmer than the temperature of the air
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u/SleepingSicarii Sep 07 '22
This is convincing me to go scuba diving, not to buy the Watch
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u/ivoryisbadmkay Sep 07 '22
you should, its a whole different world. like an untouched planet that you can fly around in with weird animals that are in their own habitat.
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u/UlrichZauber Sep 07 '22
Just don't touch the weird animals. Some are quite venomous, others are covered in very sharp bits.
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u/dafool98 Sep 07 '22
I cant wait to buy this so i can track how many steps i take around my local grocery store
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u/thefordmccord Sep 07 '22
$799 is better than i thought.
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u/WayneSmallman Sep 07 '22
I guessed $1k.
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u/NickLandis Sep 07 '22
Table Update: It’s like Apple doesn’t even care about putting their product line into nice tables anymore
| SE | mini | Standard | Studio | Air | Pro | Max | Ultra | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| iPhone | X | X | X | X | X | |||
| iPad | X | X | X | X | ||||
| Mac | X | X | X | X | ||||
| Macbook | X | X | ||||||
| Watch | X | X | X | |||||
| Airpods | X | X | X | |||||
| Silicon | X | X | X | X | ||||
| Display | X | X |
* The iMac is essentially the standard "Mac"
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u/apothanein Sep 07 '22
You forgot the HomePod!
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u/apothanein Sep 07 '22
Ok fine I'll do it myself:
SE mini Standard Plus Studio Air Pro Max Ultra iPhone x x x x x x iPad x x x x Mac x x x x x MacBook x x Watch x x x AirPods x x x Silicon x x x x Display x x HomePod x 8
u/Toastiesyay Sep 07 '22
LOL @ the standard homepod being absent. Why did they discontinue that, again?
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u/dnldntr Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22
People are complaining about the price here. This is not a watch to wear to the office. This is for outdoor activities.
As a professional scuba diver I think this is really huge and a big innovation! The dive computer market is a niche. Usually these computers were of no use outside the water. Garmin entered that market like 2 years ago and started to combine smart watches and dive computers. Now Apple enters that market. Up to now, dive computer were mostly really ugly. Now we divers get a neat Apple Watch. Dive computers can also be quite expensive and you needed to buy at least two gadgets, now you have all-in-one. So as a scuba diver, the price is fair.
I am very surprised but also very happy about the Apple Watch Ultra announcement.
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u/sbeck14 Sep 07 '22
The lack of a tank sensor and 40m depth rating is kinda limiting, I’m tempted to get this but my cheapo Suunto is doing just fine at the moment
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u/aj_thenoob Sep 07 '22
It's absolutely a good thing that apple is hitting the ultra rugged market. Garmin was sitting too comfy.
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u/RazingsIsNotHomeNow Sep 07 '22
Ya know. For a professional SCUBA watch, it being functional to 40m seems a little lackluster. In their presentation they also never say professional divers they say recreational divers. Not sure this is going to usurp Garmin in the way you might be thinking.
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u/UlrichZauber Sep 07 '22
I didn't get from the event that they intend it for technical diving, or most professional diving applications (welding salvage, search & rescue, etc).
For one thing, wouldn't you want to talk about support for multiple gas mixes for extended deep dives?
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u/SantiFRV_ Sep 07 '22
Samsung has the pro watch for the ultra phone and Apple has the ultra watch for the pro phone
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u/cellendril Sep 07 '22
I don’t do extreme marathons but I do 3-5 day hikes and backcountry hunting. I take my Casio or Garmin when I go out on these extended trips. Ultra maaaay meet the need.
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u/Ahlicksxandurr Sep 07 '22
This is what I'm thinking. Most people (me included) bring a portable battery to charge overnight too
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u/KickupKirby Sep 07 '22
$799 for GPS & Cellular ain’t too bad. I thought it would cost more.
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u/ANJ0EL Sep 07 '22
It’s also Titanium IIRC, so not too far off from the current SS or Titanium models?
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u/poonsukln Sep 07 '22
Ultra’s pricing would be practically the same as series 8 Titanium if they have it.
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u/fork666 Sep 08 '22
Which is wild, you get so much more watch for basically an Edition pricing of last years models.
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u/luther__manhole Sep 07 '22
Looks great from a feature standpoint and the button will be really nice to have but 36 hours of battery life still isn't going to be nearly enough to pull even kind of serious athletes away from Garmin, which is what I assume they're going for.
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u/cptjpk Sep 07 '22
Not even close. I can get 5-7 days of gps usage out of my Fenix 6X.
It won’t get me to switch.
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u/PhoenixStorm1015 Sep 07 '22
As with many of their other “pro” devices, it feels very geared towards the low end “pro-sumer” that isn’t necessarily gonna use all the extra oomph. So it’s great for the general person who wants the extra features, but falls flat for all the actual pros.
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Sep 07 '22
If you turn off pulse ox which isn't that useful anyway due to its accuracy, you can get like 20 days out of the 6x
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u/thenorthsider35 Sep 07 '22
I run ultramarathons with my Garmin 945, but ordered the Apple Watch Ultra to replace it. 100 milers can be completed in 24 hours…
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u/dinglenutspaywall Sep 07 '22
Ultra is the same price as the Stainless Steel Series 8, which is weird because the Ultra is a hell of a lot better.
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u/BauerUK Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22
delivery in the UK already slipped to end of October
edit: specifically for the trail loop bands it seems; maybe production issues
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u/oh2bewacki Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22
$999? $799 better than I expected. Now I can afford to scale the Alps
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u/RWTF Sep 07 '22
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u/dragonsnap_ Sep 07 '22
Not bad imo. Expected 999 or even 1199 since it seems like a specialist product
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u/_streetsbehind Sep 07 '22
Lots of talk about ultra runners and thru hikers and fast packers. Real talk: we’re more excited about emergency satellite messaging on iPhone 14 than the ultra watch.
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u/battlerumdam Sep 07 '22
It happened. Apple dips their feet in rugged territory. Now everything is possible!
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u/UsernamePasswrd Sep 07 '22
"Including getting lost because we still somehow haven't figured out how to integrate offline maps with our outdoor sports watch."
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u/mcnabb100 Sep 07 '22
That’s what the emergency satellite coms on iPhone 14 is for silly!
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u/UsernamePasswrd Sep 07 '22
Maybe that's one of their preconfigured messages. "I'm lost because I used the Apple Watch Ultra for an outdoor activity"
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u/milt_the_stilt Sep 07 '22
“An essential tool for essentially everything, so what will your anything be?” Excellent ad, really selling the dream of the lifestyle this watch can handle.
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u/psaux_grep Sep 07 '22
Nothing new there.
Most ads don’t sell products. They sell lifestyle, success, happiness.
I mean, have you ever watched a Coca Cola commercial?
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u/zuggles Sep 07 '22
im an avid (scuba) diver, and this thing has tons of promise. a few details need solidified that don't appear to be published, but this could be absolutely damning for companies like garmin, sunnto, and others.
if apple is able to add air integration (transmitter on scuba tank/cylinder to transmit gas pressures) then this thing is by far the best value for any recreational diver.
even without that, if it has basic nitrox support, this is a rec divers dream.
honestly, great product, and im looking forward to testing it.
wish it had the satcom capability the phone is getting though. seems like that was a miss given its intended purpose.
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u/Ricky_RZ Sep 07 '22
I heard from other divers that not integrating air and the depth limit of 40m or something around that is a turn off.
What do you tink as a scuba diver?
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u/zuggles Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22
i dont know if you're a diver or who is going to read this; so, let me be a little long winded:
there are two types of SCUBA diving (generally). RECreational and TEChnical diving.
the most common certifying agency in the world for rec divers is PADI. a FULLY certified and trained rec diver is capped (in theory) at 130 feet.
so, for rec diving the depth limit is no problem. my shearwater teric and perdix are approximately $1100 before air transmitters. the garmin mk2i w/o air transmitter is similarly priced. so, in terms of rec capabilities this apple watch will literally do everything you would ever want as a rec diver, but also provide a better product package and capability for anything NON diver related -- clear apple win.
for TECHNICAL diving the apple watch MAY not be ideal. it depends on your depth and gas mixture (yet to be seen the capabilities on gas mixture). but, tec divers are going to likely be using shearwater perdix, nerd, teric, etc.
air integration has yet to be discussed by apple. it is possible they could add this in the future with transmitters (their own or other integrations). but, while air integration is not REQUIRED in any sense for rec or tec diving (rare exceptions)... it does make some things easier. it also allows you to very accurately track air consumption and current air supply.
again, air integration is more of a nice to have than a NEED to have. there are some divers that ONLY USE digital air integration, but i belong to a much larger group that always have an analog pressure gauge on my cylinders in addition to any air integration. there are a few reasons for this...
so, short answer:
i do not think the depth is a concern at all. i think apple has just absolutely smacked garmin the face by producing the single best 'all in one' smart watch/dive computer/whatever that exists.
air integration would be awesome, and if they include this would make the apple watch nearly unrivaled in rec computers.
for tec diving... ill stick with my shearwater.
ps -- i mentioned garmin because right now it is one of the only all-in-one platforms that has gps, smartwatch, dive computer, air integration.
another big question is this 'app coming later this fall'... the app and its integrations, and required subscription may make this less attractive.
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u/aa2051 Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22
Impressive. Very nice.
Let’s see the 40mm version.
Seriously though, as a watch guy I can’t imagine wearing anything over 42mm. 49 is like strapping an altimeter from a 737 onto your wrist lmao
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u/MunchyMango Sep 07 '22
I wish they would name it something else, like Apple Watch Explorer. Otherwise, it’s a very good looking watch.
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u/jchimney Sep 08 '22
Athletes, explorers and middle aged guys that suck wind on short walks but have more cents than sense... like moi.
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u/0ceans Sep 08 '22
Damn, the Ultra sits in a super weird place in the lineup.
It's essentially the same price as Series 8 Stainless Steel, so it's not even like they're charging a premium for it. So for roughly the same price, they're offering:
- Twice the screen brightness (2000 nits vs 1000)
- Twice the water resistance (100m vs 50m)
- Diving capability to 40m, dive computer
- Extra sensors (depth gauge, water temperature sensor, precision dual-frequency GPS)
- A siren that can be heard at a distance for emergencies
- Dual speakers (40% louder) and triple mic array (wind noise mitigation)
- Programmable action button
- Double the battery life
- Bluetooth 5.3 (no idea whether this is meaningful, but Series 8 is still listed as 5.0)
It's a massive upgrade on every single front, without an actual price premium being demanded - but there's an enormous aesthetic tradeoff. 49mm is monstrously sized. I'm sure the great battery life is only possible at this size, but it sucks to have no way to access the myriad other upgrades without also getting something that looks so god-awful.
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u/Timmar92 Sep 07 '22
36 hours... My Garmin Fenix has 1 months battery life.
I mean if it's made for extreme stuff and adventuring, you're highly likely to not be able to charge your watch for a day or two.
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u/StockAL3Xj Sep 07 '22
It's made for extreme adventuring as long as those adventures aren't over a day and a half.
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u/Timmar92 Sep 07 '22
I mean, it's very cool, I really like the apple watch but the battery life leaves to much to be desired.
If they'd been able to stretch the battery life to maybe five days I'd buy the ultra in a heartbeat.
Even Garmin Epix with an amoled display has 6 days of battery life with always on display and 16 days without.
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u/Timmar92 Sep 07 '22
I hope so, more competition equals better products from Garmin, suunto and so on.
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u/bigtop77 Sep 07 '22
Yeah I think you are right. This is a step in that direction but in my opinion, Garmin will still be king for athletes.
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u/Tyetus Sep 07 '22
Buying this to track my walk to the fridge and back.
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u/mz3 Sep 07 '22
It can withstand -20° for when you need to give it your all and reach for that Häagen Dazs summit
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u/Dr_Sirius_Amory1 Sep 07 '22 edited Sep 07 '22
So here’s the deal. Those who say Garmin so much better, they mean battery and that’s about it (for most part). I have AW and a Garmin 920 for tri training. Pure sport use and training, Garmin hands down. The rest of the day, Apple. Garmin can’t show me my front door when doorbell rings. AW gives me super quick access to notifications from many apps with a few swipes. Garmin I’d be mashing that side button all day. Ultra is definitely aiming at Garmin crowd but they’re well aware they’re way behind to take everyone. If you’re doing multi day hunting or hiking, use your Garmin. Other reason Garmin lasts so damn long is it isn’t powering a touch screen with ton of sensors. Trade offs. For the weekend warrior or triathlete or marathoner who until now had to either own two watches or go all in on Garmin and lose functionality, Ultra brings those folks squarely into Apple arena and keeps them put.
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u/r0ckthedice Sep 07 '22
Hello are you me? This is 100 percent how I am feeling about this watch. I have a Garmin Fenix 6 sapphire and do some technical backcountry hiking/backpacking however I work a desk job during the week and the apple makes way more since for day to day use.
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u/laxpwns Sep 07 '22
Your Garmin 920 is multiple generations old, and you should check out the new Forerunner 955 (or Fenix 7 which is getting all the stuff the 955 has later this year if you want the rugged look, both have touch screens). They’re certainly going after the Garmin crowd from an aesthetic standpoint, but once you take the new features into account, the only reason to keep using an Apple Watch is if you’re so deep in the walled garden that you couldn’t find your way out with turn-by-turn GPS.
I wanted to like the Ultra so much, and was holding off upgrading from my Series 5 to the new forerunner hoping the Ultra would impress, but outside of walled garden features it seems the forerunner and Fenix are better in nearly every single way and I can still use Siri on the Garmin.
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I was not at all interested until the $799 price tag.
I was going to get the 45mm stainless steel with the braided loop band. That's also $799. So for the same price I can get a bigger brighter display, longer battery, and a bunch more features that I may or may not actually use, and a higher quality case that's lightweight.
Why shouldn't I go with this? Do I do ultramarathons or scuba diving or arctic treks? No. But it just seems like a slightly better version of the watch for the same price.
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u/mjsxii Sep 07 '22
yeah this is what has confused me so much about this watch... when I upgrade I always get the larger sized SS variant of the watch but like for literally no more money I get something that (while larger) is better in almost every aspect.
I got excited during the keynote since seeing the price of this had me thinking they lowered the cost of the SS variant to keep things segmented. Hell this is cheaper than the last titanium Apple Watch they sold... like make it make sense.
The markup must be huge on the SS variants especially compared to the ultra.
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u/pixelbased Sep 07 '22
This is just too big for me to consider this. For a normal watch, 42mm is my max. 45mm Apple Watch is like, the absolute largest. But 49, and with that thickness…it’s just too much. Hopefully some of the features like the compass and breadcrumbs and night mode can make its way to the other watches. I just ordered the 45mm Apple Watch Hermes Series 8 as a treat to myself, since I was upgrading from the Series 4. But I’d have to see this Ultra on my wrist, because 49mm is frighteningly large.
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u/parker2004au Sep 08 '22
"Apple Watch Series 8 has an 18-hours all-day battery life."
I feel like these two things contradict each other.
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u/MothraFuqua Sep 07 '22
I’m not an athlete or explorer but I’m fucking getting it!!
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u/Blountra Sep 07 '22
https://i.imgur.com/x1ltKX1.jpg
How is the watch rated for 100m but it says 40m below that for diving?
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u/Kvakke Sep 07 '22
The marketed demographic for this seems a bit too narrow for a separate model. But of course they know a lot of people will buy this to just have the best.
For me I’d hoped they could just put the extra button on the regular watch. Would be super happy with that. Maybe next year.
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Sep 07 '22
They already announced it for S4 and later earlier in the presentation. It's a less-aggressive power saver mode.
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u/efbo Sep 07 '22
I do like the design of this one more than the normal one. Looks like it was designed to be a watch and not a piece of tech.
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u/Ecstatic_Tiger_2534 Sep 08 '22
“Apple says the Apple Watch Ultra has enough battery life for most users to complete a long-course triathlon, consisting of a 2.4-mile swim, 112-mile bike ride, and full marathon at 26.2 miles.”
Vote of confidence in most users’ ability to finish that at all, let alone within the the watch’s battery life.
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u/aspenextreme03 Sep 07 '22
Mmm I have a fenix 7X and a fenix 6x before. There is a big market as the fenix line is the best seller or a reason. Of course very different but talking more about the size n
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u/0000GKP Sep 07 '22
You know what would go great with this? Offline maps.