r/sto • u/DwilenaAvaron • Jul 19 '24
New Teaser on STO Twitter News
https://x.com/trekonlinegame/status/181432184244366959383
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u/79215185-1feb-44c6 @sdkraust - oscr.stobuilds.com Jul 19 '24
Legendary Cardassian Intel Space Station confirmed.
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u/ShadiestAmebo Jul 19 '24
I would love a Legendary Galor
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u/MetalBawx Jul 19 '24
Stop my penis can only get so errect.
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u/martinux Jul 19 '24
Reroute more power to it.
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u/CharlieDmouse Jul 19 '24
No that might cause an overload!
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u/MetalBawx Jul 19 '24
That's a risk i'm willing to take.
"Engineering reroute all available power to my dong. Helm give me ramming speed."
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u/StarkeRealm Jul 19 '24
A Legendary Galor preloaded with upgradable Spiral Disruputors would be fucking awesome.
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u/tonightm88 Jul 19 '24
If they put new Cardassian ships in the game I might actually spend some money.
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u/uno_01 Executed for Incompetence Jul 19 '24
i demand pilot maneuvers :c
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u/catches-them-all Jul 19 '24
Dyson Sphere Pilot Raider
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u/uno_01 Executed for Incompetence Jul 19 '24
they yeeted DS9 from Bajor to the wormhole in the first episode, don't tell me it can't be done
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u/Vancocillin Jul 19 '24
Reminds me of darkspace. Much much smaller game than STO, but similar space gameplay. I played it enough to earn space stations for all 3 factions. I think it's still technically running but I haven't touched it in years.
Flying one is exactly what you think. Absurdly well armed, can rearm and repair allied ships, insanely slow, but it also had a wormhole that could jump between systems.
Man that game was so cool, just never took off.
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u/Admiral_Thel No significant damage reported Jul 19 '24
New ships from Beta Canon Trek ? That sounds like a very good idea.
not only Fed ships please devs, for the love of Crom
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
I'd kill for the Hutet or the K'Vort Cha...
But the general leaks all seem to point to be the Typhon/Typhoon/Valkyrie/WhateverDesignationYouWantToGoWith - the Premonition and the Achilles
Fed only -sigh-
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u/TheOnlycorndog Jul 19 '24
Hutet would be cool as hell.
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24
So fucking big it could carry Galors and Keldons into battle - we could finally have frigate pet versions of those ships we could use cross-faction :o
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u/InnocentTailor Unpaid Intern for the Detapa Council Jul 19 '24
...or at least frigate pets. I highly doubt we'll get physical Galors and Keldons as pets, though they could possibly be holograms or called-upon aid.
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24
A Hutet would be big enough to carry them
Though, you're probably right xD
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u/Admiral_Thel No significant damage reported Jul 19 '24
I'd love to see either of them ingame, too !
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u/Farscape55 Jul 19 '24
No
You got your yearly allotment of non fed regular store ships in the dyson bundle
(Yes. I would actually like to see more of them also, but the devs said a while ago none were even in the pipeline)
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u/Admiral_Thel No significant damage reported Jul 19 '24
Aye, and I got them xD Still...
We have so many interesting non-Fed ships - Orion, Nausicaan, Gorn - that could make super cool T6 ships... Instead we are cordially invited to a convention of saucer fetishists.
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u/Just_A_Normal_Fella I need to talk to that loot bug Jul 19 '24
To be fair, we got that Orion light bulb ship a bit ago, but also to be fair, it was a promo ship 💀
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u/InnocentTailor Unpaid Intern for the Detapa Council Jul 19 '24
To be honest, that isn't surprising since the Federation is far the most popular faction and the franchise itself revolves around Starfleet.
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u/InnocentTailor Unpaid Intern for the Detapa Council Jul 19 '24
Pretty much. That was already starting to happen as the Valkyrie fighter and Borg Assimilator were added to the game. The former is from Invasion and the latter is from Armada.
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u/Vulcorian Engineer and Cruiser Parity! Jul 19 '24
That confirms it! The UI is ST: DS9: Dominion Wars inspired, so we're presumably getting Achilles Class to round out the set.
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u/Farscape55 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
So third ship from dominion wars
Achilles maybe?
Best guesses right now
Ship one premonition(probable, maybe temporal juggernaut or more likely temporal assault cruiser since I don’t think we have one of those in the sovereign family yet)
Ship 2: maybe the party piece of the bundle, as a flyable t6 fighter squadron since a dev did say they saw aT6 squadron ship in test several months ago but it wasn’t ready for prime time yet. Other boring option is a typhoon class(as either a strike wing escort or something new as a flight deck escort, like the tac focused version of a FDC)
Ship 3: almost definitely the Achilles class, probably as a variant of the star cruiser given its looks, or its own thing since it’s supposed to be smaller, but it wouldn’t be the first time STO has messed with size(or maybe a Norway/Valdres now that I think about it)
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u/MetalBawx Jul 19 '24
Given the Achillies role and agility in Dominion Wars i'd guess a light battlecruiser or a well, warship as she was supposed to a purpose built one like the Defiants.
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u/neok182 /|\ AD /|\ Jul 19 '24
It'll probably be a battlecruiser but IMO should be warship or frigate.
As long as it's 5/3, decent agility, and include the micro quantum spread somehow.
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u/Farscape55 Jul 19 '24
If it doesn’t you can fake it if you have the lensflair jellyfish, it’s quad micro torpedo launcher plus torpedo spread actually looks pretty good
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u/neok182 /|\ AD /|\ Jul 20 '24
Interesting idea to use one of my old campaign rewards on.
For as much as I'd love them to include that as a new torp in the Achilles we all know it'll be a console. Hopefully it'll at least be a good one.
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u/Farscape55 Jul 20 '24
Eh, unless you have literally every other ship you want I wouldnt waste one in it, the ship itself is an inferior equinox
I just have it because I wanted the into darkness bundle and didn’t care about the d7 or kelvin
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u/neok182 /|\ AD /|\ Jul 20 '24
I'll have 3 campaign rewards after finishing this one. I've only used one of them to get t6 coupons for the bundle last year but now that they finally restricted those I've been planning on using them this year.
I've tried out every single ship on tribble and even the ones I was tempted by I didn't really care for once flying them so I've been planning to just use them on accessories like terran goodbye, ruin of our enemies, immolating phaser lance or others or possibly just some nice barbie things like that kelvin jellyfish torp.
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u/InnocentTailor Unpaid Intern for the Detapa Council Jul 19 '24
It was the OG Avenger, Arbiter, and Inquiry.
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u/Farscape55 Jul 19 '24
Yea, that’s why I’m thinking maybe Valdres/norway based skeleton, smaller than a galaxy class but bigger than a defiant and the layout while not exact would probably at least be compatible
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u/MetalBawx Jul 19 '24
The Norway is a much smaller hull so mix and matching with it is very unlikely.
Achillies would be in the 450-500m+ range.
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u/Farscape55 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Smaller in STO compared to the Achilles in dominion wars, yes, but it would not be the first time STO messed with size
The inquiry is the size of a sovereign in Star Trek but not much bigger than an intrepid in STO
Lockbox ships like the jellyfish and universe are all over the place(jellyfish is basically a runabout on screen, Universe was supposed to be a couple KM)
The other option might work as well, make it a juggernaut and base it on the star cruiser skeleton, upsize instead of downsize
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u/neok182 /|\ AD /|\ Jul 19 '24
IIRC the inquiry size issue was because Cryptic couldn't get an official size so they just went with their own. When there is an official size they always go for it and some are slimmed down for gameplay reasons.
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u/Farscape55 Jul 19 '24
And some like the jellyfish are beefed up, just saying it’s not unprecedented for them to mess with the size of a ship
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u/neok182 /|\ AD /|\ Jul 19 '24
Yeah I just don't see them doing it for the Achilles. It'll most likely be sized as it was on dominion and I'm sure it'll be on it's own even if it was close enough to something else. They don't need to make it kitbash with something else it's already popular enough to sell.
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u/rb0009 Jul 19 '24
It's almost certainly going to become part of the Avenger family, though. It fits that set of designs really, really well.
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u/MetalBawx Jul 20 '24
They try to stay to the offical sizes when they can though some things like that cargo shuttle from Picard got scaled up as did the vulcan shuttle from Discovery, T'pau i think it was?
As the other guy said noone had decided on the size of the Inquiry class so Cryptic just went "fuck it" and scaled it to the Avenger.
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u/Neos472 Jul 19 '24
the Achilles was shown in Dominion Wars to carry Pulse Phaser Cannons akin to the Defiant so it likely is a battlecruiser/Warship/Destroyer
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u/engineer1312 FED Frigate Pets When??? Jul 19 '24
It would be a real surprise if the Premonition wasn't a science dreadnought.
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u/Farscape55 Jul 19 '24
Yea, but they have done that before, the Sirius model was almost purpose built to be a science dreadnought(I mean come on, the secondary deflector is right there in the model), they made it a boring command dreadnought instead
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u/engineer1312 FED Frigate Pets When??? Jul 19 '24
There's also the fact that there are only like 2 sci-dreds that can be directly purchased. And I wonder if they will also come with 25c skins.
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u/Farscape55 Jul 19 '24
The cardi one and what’s the other one?
Unless you mean in mudds bundles(the merian and collector)
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u/engineer1312 FED Frigate Pets When??? Jul 19 '24
It was one of the scimitars or something, either way, I would love a new C-store Sci-dreadnought
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u/AscenDevise Jul 20 '24
Damar, Collector and Merian, those are the ones. The funny part about the latter two is that actual science builds on them don't work as well as they do on a frickin' event ship, the Compiler (LE: sorry, early morning brain fog) (the Damar's full Intel isn't brilliant either, but 3k zen without any discount will, at least, unlock a solid DEW trait and Spiral Waves).
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u/dansstuffV2 Jul 19 '24
The premonition wasn't a dreadnought in Armada so why would they make it a dreadnought in STO? If it's staying true to the original game then it would probably be some science cruiser or science ship of some kind e.g. spearhead. The Typhon is already the obvious pick for a dreadnought/carrier and the Achilles the escort/destroyer
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u/NovaCatNX92007 Jul 19 '24
In all fairness the Assimilator in STO right now was a just a Cruiser in Armada 1 and a Dreadnought Carrier in STO.
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u/StarkeRealm Jul 19 '24
Yeah, there's no Temporal Sovereign at all. It's kinda a conspicuous absence.
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u/Farscape55 Jul 19 '24
Exactly, we have command, MW, intel, but no temporal
Though if they decided to mess with us they would make it pilot(though I expect that to be the fighter squadron cause come on)
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u/StarkeRealm Jul 19 '24
Technically, we don't even have command or intel. Those were non-fullspec. I really wish they'd update the Archon and Vizier to be fullspec ships. It'd give them new life.
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u/BanSophistry :table_flip: Jul 19 '24
Needs more new Cardassian ships, updates to classic STO Cardassian releases, and a Cardassia Prime ground zone with a giant Natima Lang statue.
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u/InnocentTailor Unpaid Intern for the Detapa Council Jul 19 '24
That could form the basis of a new arc for the game - dealing with the post-Dominion War Cardassian Union more directly, which could possibly give a facelift to the True Way.
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u/GuyAugustus Jul 19 '24
Dominion War: 2373–75
STO: 2408-?
Current arc is around 2411 since I believe the Iconian War was 2410 so 35 years later is kinda well too tale for any post-Dominion War to be taking place, it would be like Europe still dealing with the aftermath of the Second World War in ... 1976 or Japan for that matter. Who knows maybe Cardassians economic recovery lead then to releasing their hit new home entertainment system, the GulStation.
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u/InnocentTailor Unpaid Intern for the Detapa Council Jul 19 '24
Perhaps the Union could be more comparable to Afghanistan - a long-running problem as some elements of the Union are controlled and others are more chaotic, which could be exasperated by, for example, the fall of the Romulan Star Empire and other related chaos.
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u/GuyAugustus Jul 19 '24
No, this is you trying to really having your late 2370's in 2410's ... it doesnt work, there are far too many people still trying to pighole the Cardassians into pro-Dominion after what they did to Cardassia Prime, that would never happen just like it cannot be set during TNG movie era since in STO that is already the past.
There are things that can be done with then during the Federation-Klingon War frame, maybe DECA will add content set during STO earlier timeframe but it shouldnt be a attempt to have something that would be a anachronism, you cannot have issues that by 2390 would already had surfaced and be dealt with to remain by 2410 because reasons, it simply doesnt make sense the Federation sitting in the arses with Cardassia being a "powerkeg" during that time since they had no real pressing problems during that time, Romulus would only be destroyed in about 2389 and since Picard is (sort of) canon we know that in the 2400's there was no pressing problems.
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Cryptic: Sorry, best we can do is an obese defiant - a blocky sov - and the lovechild of an Akira and the Intrepid :D
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u/BanSophistry :table_flip: Jul 19 '24
Fine, I'll settle for the Hutet class, the new Cardassian uniforms, and Cardassian ground weapons.
Hutet class | Memory Beta, non-canon Star Trek Wiki | Fandom
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u/SQUAWKUCG UCGSQUAWK - Arty Magnet Jul 19 '24
That looks suspiciously like a Tzenkethi ship...
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24
Well, it predates the Tzenkethi designs by, like, a decade or two - so...
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u/SQUAWKUCG UCGSQUAWK - Arty Magnet Jul 19 '24
Oh I know, just commenting on how much it resembles what they did for the Tzenkethi ships...I've been around since the days of Starfleet Battles.
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24
I mean, I'd kill for the Hutet or the K'Vort Cha...
But all the leaks point to the three I listed
Especially annoying in the case of the USS 'just a fat Sov' Premmy xD
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u/BanSophistry :table_flip: Jul 19 '24
I'm not going to say that I hate the consistently Fed-only direction that STO takes, but my admiration for their development choices is definitely under control.
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u/InnocentTailor Unpaid Intern for the Detapa Council Jul 19 '24
To be fair, the franchise itself is very Fed-slanted and the Federation is, I recall, the most popular faction in the game.
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u/MetalBawx Jul 19 '24
I will be completely happy with that blocky Sovereign if it's 5/3 and not 4/4 alike all the other Sovvies.
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24
It's rumored to be sci themed - with the Valkyrie/Typhon/Typhoon (whatever designation you want to go with, I don't give a shit) being eng and the Achilles being tac
It's not impossible that the Premmy ends up being a 5/3 since it's a cruiser... but there's a risk that it might be another stupid 'push a button to switch to 5 fore slots' monstrosity rather than a full native 5/3...
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u/FilipChA Jul 19 '24
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u/Scurry5 "Squeak!" Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
So if the first numbers are BUNDLE repeating using
a caesar cipherROT13 on the numbers swapped to letters, the bit in brackets is "HI, MRZJONES!". Don't know what to make of it.11
u/MrZJones Last one standing wins! Jul 19 '24
I think I do... :D
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u/Modemus Elysia - Acheron - Tank/DPS - Pure Ba'ul Build Jul 19 '24
"the numbers mason! What do the numbers mean?!".
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u/Vulcorian Engineer and Cruiser Parity! Jul 19 '24
I assume MRZJONES is the person Kael was referencing when he tweeted "only one person had figured out the code so far".
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u/Kronocidal Jul 19 '24
Alternatively: 15th August is a Thursday. 8th August is the week before, 1st August a week before that… and then 25th June the Thursday before that and 18th June was yesterday (also a Thursday)
So, 15th August as a release date?
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u/falkirkboi Jul 19 '24
Fingers crossed its the Achilles, Ds9 in the background and a hud like the dominion wars game, :D
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u/Crunchy_Pirate #1 Kuumaarke Ass Enjoyer Jul 19 '24
well fuck.....there goes any chance of getting the Ark Royal or Akula
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u/MetalBawx Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Devs have said they have all the permissions needed to start grabbing ships from old games so if they do well expect to see more.
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u/Crunchy_Pirate #1 Kuumaarke Ass Enjoyer Jul 19 '24
yeah but the devs who are fans of these old ships/games and set this whole thing in motion are leaving, it's possible the DECA devs who will be charge of this stuff are also huge fans of the old games and the TMP era ships but I'm not holding my breath
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u/WaldoTrek Retired the D'Kora for Golden Nagus Jul 19 '24
Nostalgia = $$, so they will probably keep adding stuff from older games.
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u/MetalBawx Jul 19 '24
Nostalgia sells and i'm pretty sure both Cryptic and DECA know this. CBS apparantly took care of any rights issues so someone over there is clearly happy with how STO is doing.
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u/zordoz_ Jul 19 '24
I feel your pain I was hoping for the Yamato. Hopefully in the future
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u/DocTheop Do the snake! Jul 19 '24
The Yamato Dread exists in-game already!
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u/zordoz_ Jul 19 '24
The Yamato from starfleet command . It was a TMP ship . Very different from the future enterprise dreadnought
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u/Punished-G BRING BACK THE CUT MISSIONS!! Jul 19 '24
Calling it: flyable DS9 and Steamed Hams!!
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u/DocTheop Do the snake! Jul 19 '24
In this region of space? In this quadrant??!
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u/Punished-G BRING BACK THE CUT MISSIONS!! Jul 19 '24
Yes
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u/Vyar U.S.S. Bunker Hill NCC-32217 Jul 19 '24
I just want a 25th-century FDC with a standard saucer/secondary hull/2 pylons/2 nacelles design, but I feel like the next one we’ll get is the Typhon-class from that one game, and then we won’t get another Starfleet FDC for ages.
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u/Koenig1999 Jul 19 '24
SFCIII with the online Dominion wars mod was something to behold back in the day for online ST gaming, on dialup no less. lol
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u/danktonium U.S.S. Paradox | Support fleet π Jul 20 '24
A... A Stable Wormhole? At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the quadrant, localized entirely within the Denorios Belt?
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u/Punished-G BRING BACK THE CUT MISSIONS!! Jul 20 '24
Yes
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u/danktonium U.S.S. Paradox | Support fleet π Jul 20 '24
May I see it?
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u/figuring_ItOut12 Jul 19 '24
I’m confused by the graphic. The minimap shows they’re in Vulcan sector/alpha but the ship is overlooking DS9/beta…
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u/Crunchy_Pirate #1 Kuumaarke Ass Enjoyer Jul 19 '24
it's just a photoshop from another picture to make it look like the UI from the old Dominion Wars game
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u/Vulcorian Engineer and Cruiser Parity! Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
It's just a Photoshop job to make it look like the UI of another Trek game, in this case Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Dominion Wars, as a tease to what ships are in an upcoming bundle. Two previous teasers have recreated the UI for Star Trek: Armada, and Star Trek: Invasion.
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u/HystericalSail Jul 19 '24
Clearly this is a teaser for a flyable DS9. Wonder what seats and specialization it'll have.
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u/SQUAWKUCG UCGSQUAWK - Arty Magnet Jul 19 '24
Question:What seats and specializations it'll have?
Answer: Yes
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u/rhade86 Jul 19 '24
So this all but confirms Premonition, Typhoon, and Achilles which of course makes me quite happy. The other question is will it just be hi res versions of those ships or will there also be new 25th century skins.
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u/InnocentTailor Unpaid Intern for the Detapa Council Jul 19 '24
Now that would be interesting - a 25th century STO-inspired refresh on these iconic beta canon designs.
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24
Given that the Premmy is just a Sov with extra bits
Maybe we'll get an overall Sov refit out of it :D
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u/agnosticnixie Unificationist Shill Jul 19 '24
In fairness, "annoyingly Sovereign-like" defines a lot of beta canon and fan-made ships of the period, including stuff like the Luna (what if the Nebula was a sov - Ortiz's Luna refit does a really herculean job of toning it down) and Odyssey (what if the Galaxy was a sov), so it's never really stopped STO's art team
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24
True
The fans and games set near or post Nemesis seem to have a hard on for the Sovy - despite Cryptic going out of their way to make the Leg sovy astonishingly boring xD
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u/MetalBawx Jul 19 '24
Yeah it's overshadowed by the Lexington so hard it's not even funny.
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24
It's not a bad ship - it's just boring
I'm not demanding they make it 5/3 - just... unique in some way
Some unique seating - some unique typing - some clever turn rate or console slot modification
Like something that makes it stand out :P
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u/MetalBawx Jul 19 '24
The problem is honestly 5/3 would make it stand out. Every single version of the Sovereign in STO is a 4/4 cruiser while you have 5/3 Galaxy classes which is kind of funny when you remember the entire point of the Sovereign class was as a more combat oriented starship.
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24
I mean, I wasn't saying don't make it 5/3 - I'm just saying that's not the only thing that would do me xD
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u/agnosticnixie Unificationist Shill Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
the entire point of the Sovereign class was as a more combat oriented starship.
The entire point of the Sovereign was to give the TNG movies their version of the Connie refit, tbh. A lot of fanon was brought in to fill blanks that doesn't really mesh with how even in the heavily action oriented TNG movies its official missions were mainly diplomacy (and thankfully people told Ron Moore that his idea for the borg fight in FC was stupid)
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 21 '24
The entire point of the Sovereign was to give the TNG movies their version of the Connie refit
I mean, the connie refit spent most of it's time crashing - blowing up - or falling apart so...
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u/Twee_Licker Still waiting for Cardassian Ground Weapons Jul 19 '24
If we're getting more Dominion content maybe we'll finally get Cardassian ground weapons.
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u/jtrom93 Privateer, Ketracel Addict, Tiaru Jarok Simp | @captainoverkill Jul 19 '24
I know it’s a pipe dream but… “wingman” style flotillas made up of 1-4 ships from your ship roster?
Would really make us feel more like Fleet Admirals and less like over-promoted Commanders.
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24
Maybe the Achilles will have the 'Vanguard Wingmen' system???
In Dominion Wars the class was meant as a 'pocket sovereign' - a heavily armed yet fast ship that could last longer than a Defiant but deliver the damage output of a Galaxy or Negh'Var class. They did this usually either by spamming their spine-mounted micro-torpedo systems - or working in groups
Hell, the Federation was so desperate for resources at this point - that they deployed tech not quite unlike the M-5 to allow the Achilles class to fly itself back to base if it's crew was killed or incapacitated!
One of the critical strategic problems faced by Starfleet Command during the Dominion war was that Federation forces were being spread too thin. Between defending its territory, trying to go on the offensive against the Dominion, and keeping a wary eye on the Romulans, Starfleet found it had too many obligations and too few resources.
This problem became even more acute when Starfleet strategists had determined that the Dominion's "Achilles' heel" was the Jem'Hadar's dependency on the narcotic compound known as Ketracel-white. If the Federation-Klingon alliance could destroy, or even severely threaten existing Ketracel-white production facilities, the Dominion's offensive in the Alpha Quadrant would grind to a halt.
Unfortunately, unescorted long-range strikes against heavily defended multiple targets could not be performed by any existing vessel in either the Starfleet or KDF inventory. The Defiant-class had too limited an operating range, the Klingon B'rel had the stealth but lacked the firepower, and while the Galaxy and Negh'Var had the range, they were considered too expensive to be feasible for this role.
Neither the Federation nor the Klingons were willing to commit the large fleets required to hit these targets, since doing so would have entailed compromising the defense of key star systems. A new ship of revolutionary design would be required.
Ship designers at Utopia Planitia were up to the challenge. They not only designed a totally new class, they also built it in under two years. By adapting current anti-Borg designs to the new threat, the Achilles was able to fulfill the long-range attack role with firepower comparable to that of the Sovereign.
This was accomplished with the new micro-quantum torpedo phalanx arranged in a broadside array along the ship's spine. Although their size limits their ability to do much damage individually, fired in large numbers the microtorpedoes are able to seriously cripple or destroy attacking ships, thus enabling the Achilles to defend itself while focusing on the primary mission.
Quad rapid-fire quantum torpedoes and enhanced pulse phasers enable the Achilles sufficient firepower to destroy most large targets in one pass.
Redundant warp and impulse systems were incorporated into the design so the Achilles can sustain heavy damage, and still maneuver as well ultimately return to base. The new retro-thrusters enable the Achilles to maneuver as well as any Class 3, and most Class 2 ships. And finally, the Achilles has an unsupported, self-serviceable range equal to the Galaxy-class that is required to operate effectively behind the Dominion defensive perimeter.
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u/Sad-Research-3429 Jul 19 '24
But honestly, so far Typhoon, Achilles and Premonition? ENG, TAC and SCI?
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u/Farscape55 Jul 19 '24
I think it was Kael who mentioned seeing a T6 squadron ship in action a few months back, so that might replace the typhoon)
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Like, c'mon ship designers, there are other aesthetics to pull from - not everything has to be a Sov :P 'course, considering how many times they've redone the Connie, things could be worse...
Plus, I'll sell my soul for the other two - so, I'll allow it xD
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u/GuyAugustus Jul 19 '24
Star Trek: Armada come out in 2000, Star Trek:Nemesis would only flop in 2002.
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Correct - but the end of that era was Nemesis and any games set in the time period after the end of the TNG films (which Armada was and STO is) is called the post-Nemesis era
The era where we keep getting ships that want to be a Sov so bad it burns in their gritty souls like a dose of starfleet-branded clap :P xD
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u/GuyAugustus Jul 19 '24
Well yes in a sense, I dont think they knew Nemesis would be coming even if one of the Romulan designs is similar to the Valdore.
My comment was more that Armada designs are for most part playing incredible safe, in a way this is catch-20 since too much deviation leads to things like the Typoon and playing too safe leads to Sovereign with a 3rd nacelle, they both end up being bad for same and opposite reason. I should had elaborated but Armada designs are still very based on TNG movie era without doing adventurous things like the Typoon.
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u/rhade86 Jul 19 '24
If it is Premonition and its part of the Sovy family that might also have given them a reason to remaster the Archon fingers crossed
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
It's rumored to be sci - with the Valkyrie/Typhon/Typhoon (whatever designation you want to go with, I don't give a shit) being eng and the Achilles being tac
Maybe they'll all be cruiser hybrids and we'll get a sov rework in general out of it -shrug-
Only way I can see being hyped about the Premmy - it's just too close to a Sov (a ship Cryptic has spent the last few years ignoring after they shat out it's lackluster leg variant) for me to really give a damn xD
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u/InnocentTailor Unpaid Intern for the Detapa Council Jul 19 '24
Still famous though.
She was the hero ship of the first Armada game.
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u/Spider-Man1701TWD Jul 20 '24
I like most of the design of the Achilles but I think its nacelles need to be longer
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u/Status_Eagle1368 Jul 20 '24
I know everyone is saying Demoinon war. With ds9 in the background. And everyone really wanting the Achilles in the game. Buy the four ships really remind me of star trek : legacy
I've never played Deminion war. How close is this to the game hud?
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u/Nacktherr Jul 19 '24
Are they saying we're getting a playable DS9? It's canon that it does fly and move around.
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u/hamtidamti_onthewall German Department of Temporal Investigations [Fleet] Jul 19 '24
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u/Nacktherr Jul 19 '24
It must be smaller than some of the existing ships in the game like the Vonph or Enterprise-Spatula edition.
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u/dansstuffV2 Jul 19 '24
So it looks to be a bundle of the Premonition, Typhon and Achilles. Neat
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u/InnocentTailor Unpaid Intern for the Detapa Council Jul 19 '24
Yup! These were the poster children for some of the most iconic Star Trek video games.
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u/JeffBearSD Jul 19 '24
2 things I'm hoping for if we're getting the Achilles: 1. Possible compatibility with Inquiry/Avenger/Arbiter design family. 2. While we're probably already getting the Typhon as a carrier/SWE or FDC, anyone else think the Achilles would make for a slick FDC?
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u/2Scribble ALWAYS drop GK Jul 19 '24
Uh...
The Achilles model isn't even remotely the same shape/size as the Inquiry or it's sisters???
Also, the Achilles wouldn't be an FDC - it would be a torp boat of some kind
It's literally classified as a heavy cruiser that toted an experimental missile system
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u/kandykane84 Jul 19 '24
Um this image makes no sense. We're obviously outside of DS9 and the Wormhole yet the mini map on the lower left of the screen shows were just outside if the sol system which we all know is no where near DS9
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u/HuskerKLG Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
The map and visual don't line up. Strikes me as an laziness error, when they stitched the DS9 visuals with the HUD, forgetting the HUD was in the wrong quadrant. If you are pasting together shots, how hard is it to take a shot from DS9 and get it right?
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u/onefinerug These are the misadventures of Xeemar Jul 20 '24
ah, U.S.S. Chamlers, welcome. I hope you're prepared for an unforgettable luncheon!
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u/ai2251 Jul 20 '24
The numbers are 15 8 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 (21 22 26 5 13 23 2 1 18 6!) if anyone has any conspiracys for this please let me know as it may be a puzzle piece to see which direction the games going, also the map position definitely doesn't sit right
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u/ai2251 Jul 20 '24
Assuming the bracketed ones are a key to translate or even just cull this the number solution is: 1 17 1 18 1 25 8 15 15 15. I will attempt to decipher further
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u/ai2251 Jul 20 '24
After putting the solution through a number to letter combo and translating the answer which untranslated is :aqarayhooo, the best match is Somali which translates to: Read it. I am fuming
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u/Vulcorian Engineer and Cruiser Parity! Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
Sub each number for the appropriate letter (1=A, 2=B, etc), the run the result through a rot-13 cypher. The end product is bundlebundlebundlebundlebundlebundle(himrzjones)
It's teasing that a new ship bundle is coming. The bit in brackets is the games Community Manager acknowledging the first person they saw to figure out the code.
The map being wrong is just because it's a fun tease and not to be taken too seriously, they're just photoshopped the STO UI to recreate the one from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Dominion Wars, as it's theorised the new ships in the bundle are from previous Star Trek games (Armada, Invasion, Dominion Wars)
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u/Squirrelshagger Jul 20 '24
I hope we get cardassian ships from "Dominion Wars".
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u/agnosticnixie Unificationist Shill Jul 20 '24
They could easily populate a second cardassian pack by doing Hideki, Hutet and one of the armada ships, but the argument always ends up being that non-SF ships won't sell
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u/MrZJones Last one standing wins! Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24
This was, of course, already solved days ago, but for fun, I decided to see how stupid ChatGPT was. It was very, very stupid. (I'm the plaintext, bold is ChatGPT)
Enter your message to start a chat. This could be a question, a statement, or any other text.
Please solve this code: 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 (21 22, 26 5 13 23 2 1 18 6!)
The code provided appears to be a simple letter-to-number substitution cipher. When each number is converted to its corresponding letter in the alphabet (A=1, B=2, C=3, etc.), the decoded message reads: "YOU HAVE TO SHARE YOUR BRAIN!"
I'm pretty sure that's not it. try again.
Apologies for the error. Let me reevaluate the code provided and attempt to decode it again. Thank you for your patience.
Here's the code again: 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 (21 22, 26 5 13 23 2 1 18 6!)
After reevaluating the code provided, the decoded message reads: "OH! QUARTER HOUR OH! QUARTER HOUR (U V, Z E M W B A R F!)"
No, that's not it. For the record, I just solved it while you were messing around, and it's "BUNDLE BUNDLE BUNDLE BUNDLE BUNDLE BUNDLE (HI, MRZJONES!)"
Thank you for providing the correct solution to the code. I appreciate your understanding and patience. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, feel free to let me know.
I have another code for you! 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 (21 22, 26 5 13 23 2 1 18 6!)
Upon decoding the code provided using a letter-to-number substitution cipher, the message reads: "YOU HAVE TO SHARE YOUR BRAIN!" Thank you for your patience.
I literally just told you the answer, and you gave me the same wrong answer that you gave me the first time. Okay, how about this code instead? 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 15 8 1 17 25 18 (21 22, 26 5 13 23 2 1 18 6!)
Apologies for the oversight. Let me decode the new code provided: "YOU HAVE TO SHARE YOUR BRAIN!" Thank you for your patience and for providing the correct answer. If you have any more codes or questions, feel free to ask.
Amazing. (That is not a compliment)
I closed the window there, I couldn't bear anymore. :D
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u/Behleren Jul 19 '24
how come theres 4 ship statua displays? are we getting npc ships as space companions?
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u/Sad-Research-3429 Jul 19 '24
Dominion Wars!!!!
Achilles lets gooo!