r/diabetes_t1 • u/MaMonck • 1d ago

High Protein Meals Graphs & Data

I've seen a couple of things about insulin response, but is there a specific reason for high protein spiking blood sugar? Is there a point where I should start bolusing for Protein as well as carbs?

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u/Simon-Seize 1d ago

I bolus for protein and fats (at about 1/3 what I would bolus for carbs) if there is a substantial protein and/or fat component to my meal.

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u/MaMonck 1d ago

I'm guessing this is just trial and error, but do you find there's a point at which you'd start considering additional Bolus?

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u/echoes808 1d ago

A common rule of thumb which I've heard is that protein needs bolus in two situations: 1: When eating a low-carb meal. 2: When eating huge amount of protein at once (e.g. a high-protein, moderate-carb, low-fat meal).

My personal experience is that protein is converted to glucose if it exceeds about 50% of carbohydrate in a meal. But I'm sure this varies a lot by individual.

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u/simonrileyTaFo141 [Editable flair: write something here] 1d ago

This is brilliant advice OP take what this dude said and use it, exactly the way i’d go about it to.

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u/MaMonck 23h ago

This seems to trend with my experience in these situations. Thanks!

u/Ok-Fail8499 1d ago

Gluconeogenesis is where the body converts non carbs like protein and fat to carbs. Yes youll have to increase your dose for dense protein foods.

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u/commentinator 1d ago

Lots of protein rich foods have carbs like eggs. If you’re on a no carb diet protein can be converted to carbs. Eating even a small amount of carbs cancels this process.

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u/Ok-Fail8499 1d ago

Thats basically what gluconeogenesis is but yes a portion(person pending) of carbs can switch you back.

The thought of chasing lo carb diets only for your body to change other things into carbs is hilariously diabetic to me.

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u/commentinator 1d ago

Yes exactly. But you assume op is in the Gluconeogenesis state which may not be the case here. But certainly it could be.

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u/Ok-Fail8499 22h ago

I doubt OP is eating eggs for protein. You can trigger gluconeogenesis just from dense protein(like 15g-25g) foods regardless of diet.

u/DrPyo 1d ago

for low carb or very high protein/fat, you need to bolus for the protein/fat, add the protein and fat amounts together and treat each 30g fat/protein the same as 10g carbs