r/benshapiro • u/DarthBalls5041 Leftist Tear Drinker • May 02 '23

Controversy erupts after transgender cyclist Austin Killips wins women’s race: ‘Insane’ Daily Wire

https://nypost.com/2023/05/02/transgender-cyclist-austin-killips-wins-womens-race-causes-outrage/amp/
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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

hi! we already have this! men and women do have separate bathrooms and separate sports.

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

I’m going to assume you’re pretending grown men playing dress up are “real women”. Correct?

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

not not unless they’re trans </3

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

Define woman

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

someone who’s brain and sex chemistry and characteristics match those who are commonly known as females

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

So, in other words, adult female human? Glad we can agree.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

i’m sure you don’t characterize trans women and women, so i’m saying since sex characteristics of trans women are skewed more towards their gender identity, they are as much woman as any cis woman. even though their brains aren’t exactly the same as cis womens’ brains, sex characteristics can vary on sexuality as well, meaning a lesbian may have sex characteristics skewed differently than straight women. it’s a spectrum

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

Nobody with two brain cells or self respect classifies mentally disabled grown men as women. Adult female human is what a women is. What trans “women” are is an adult male human, also known as a man. I know words are hard, but they have meanings. If they were women, you wouldn’t have to classify them as trans. They’re not. Never will be.

I love gender is a spectrum game! Male/Female is sex and Man/Woman is gender right? Man and woman are characterized by adulthood and humanity. Nothing else separates them from sex. Which is evident by their definitions. (Adult female human/adult male human) In human adolescence, the correct terminology is boy/girl.

Fun fact: Animals are classified as female/male and not woman/man because they aren’t adult humans!

Edit: Typo!

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

would you prescribe a diagnosed depressed person with medication? or would you turn them away and invalidate them? every woman is different and trans women should be allowed to express their individuality. let’s say if someone decided to play baseball after being a soccer player. would they immediately have to classify themselves as a ex-soccer player-baseball player? animals have different characterization because they don’t engage in society like we do. they also have very small brains and don’t have the capacity to do anything but survive and exist

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

Depends. Are they asking you to partake in their psychotic delusions? You can be medicated AND not be enabled in believing untrue nonsense at the same time. My brother is bipolar with schizoid tendencies. He hears voices. Do you believe the best course of action is to change society around until his delusions become widely accepted? Or should he be medicated and told that they are just a figment of his imagination?

Incorrect! I explained it very well the first time. Please refer back to my enjoyment of the gender is a spectrum game. A man can never be a woman and vice versa.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

hi! i think we have different definitions of “psychotic delusions”. transgender peoples brains actually tend to reflect that they actually have characteristics skewed more towards their desired gender, which means it’s far from a delusion. also, it doesn’t hurt anyone, actually quite the opposite. it is a form of harm reduction. i’m not saying a man can be a woman. no men who are comfortable in their gender is going around transitioning just for the fun of it.

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

I don’t care at all what trans people do. Transition as many times as you would like. Trans “women” do not belong invading women spaces of any kind because they are not women. Trans men I don’t care what they do. Women and men are not the same and should not be treated the same. You’ve venturing off the original topic and making a characterization that was never offered. Nobody is advocating for stopping trans people from transitioning. I’m against pushing your delusional shit onto others and attempting to shame them for not thinking how you do. I’m against grown men with denser muscles and bones beating the living hell out of women in sports and taking away their ability to compete.

Edit: You almost got away with it. You’re wrong. It doesn’t harm reduce in any way whatsoever.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-023-00358-x

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

if you look up some articles about trans women competing in sports, some of them go into depth about how after some time on hormone therapy, trans women do not retain their physical edge

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

also yes laws have been passed to ban gender-affirming care

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

would that make them anything less than a baseball player?

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u/frowny-hedgehog May 03 '23

Lol, no male is "as much woman" as an actual female person.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

and also, sorry for the double comment, someone who would like to fit in the bounds of what society characterizes a woman. that characterization has many different factors, and depends on the culture you’re in

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

It’s also a circular definition and immediately rejected by anyone with common sense or a basic knowledge of how language and communication works.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

i think sociologists would disagree. i would like to believe i have both of those things, but i guess because a random conservative on reddit told me otherwise, i must not be!

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

Sociologists are the least respected individuals alive. Regardless, arguments from authority mean nothing to me, but thanks for the intellectual fallacy! The sound reasoning of one man outweighs the rambling nonsense of a thousand experts.

Circular definitions are dumb. Define dumb. Dumb is when people are dumb. Okay.. but what is dumb. Dump is when people are dumb.

What is a woman?

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

just because someone isn’t respected in your circles doesn’t mean they are wrong. a woman is someone who has sex characteristics that match those of what biologists have deemed a female. but i am not a expert whatsoever, nor do i claim to be. if anyone has a better definition of a woman that isn’t just heartless transphobia, i am definitely open to different ideas!

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

You mean the actual definition of women. Trans people not getting their way of absolute reality denial… isn’t transphobia. You’re just normal person phobic.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

hi! above i stated that articles and studies have shown that transgender peoples brains are skewed towards their desired gender, which you have seemed to ignore. i’m not normal person phobic, i’m just not a big fan of forcing conformity on others

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

As you attempt to force conformity on me to the tune of the psychotic delusions of the mentally ill.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

it’s not conformity it’s basic empathy. these people are struggling and fighting against their own minds, and the least we can do is let them figure it out without judging. and as i said before, i don’t think it’s a psychotic delusion.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

also, another question is why do you care? trans people make up such a small percentage. they just want to live.

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

Always “why do you care” and never “You make valid arguments. I’m much less intelligent than I believed myself to be. Maybe I’m delusional.”

I’ve answered why I care already. Scroll around and find it.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

i don’t believe myself to be very intelligent, i just like standing up for people in my community! i wouldn’t say i’m delusional, but that’s just because i haven’t really had any proof that i am

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

Everything you have said so far is your proof. Delusional people need to be told they are delusional. We have circled back around to your previous question about medication and delusion enabling.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

i can go tell someone they’re delusional even if they’re not. just because someone says something about someone else doesn’t mean it’s true. it’s not a delusion dear lord

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