r/benshapiro • u/DarthBalls5041 Leftist Tear Drinker • May 02 '23

Controversy erupts after transgender cyclist Austin Killips wins women’s race: ‘Insane’ Daily Wire

https://nypost.com/2023/05/02/transgender-cyclist-austin-killips-wins-womens-race-causes-outrage/amp/

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So, in other words, adult female human? Glad we can agree.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

i’m sure you don’t characterize trans women and women, so i’m saying since sex characteristics of trans women are skewed more towards their gender identity, they are as much woman as any cis woman. even though their brains aren’t exactly the same as cis womens’ brains, sex characteristics can vary on sexuality as well, meaning a lesbian may have sex characteristics skewed differently than straight women. it’s a spectrum

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

Nobody with two brain cells or self respect classifies mentally disabled grown men as women. Adult female human is what a women is. What trans “women” are is an adult male human, also known as a man. I know words are hard, but they have meanings. If they were women, you wouldn’t have to classify them as trans. They’re not. Never will be.

I love gender is a spectrum game! Male/Female is sex and Man/Woman is gender right? Man and woman are characterized by adulthood and humanity. Nothing else separates them from sex. Which is evident by their definitions. (Adult female human/adult male human) In human adolescence, the correct terminology is boy/girl.

Fun fact: Animals are classified as female/male and not woman/man because they aren’t adult humans!

Edit: Typo!

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

would you prescribe a diagnosed depressed person with medication? or would you turn them away and invalidate them? every woman is different and trans women should be allowed to express their individuality. let’s say if someone decided to play baseball after being a soccer player. would they immediately have to classify themselves as a ex-soccer player-baseball player? animals have different characterization because they don’t engage in society like we do. they also have very small brains and don’t have the capacity to do anything but survive and exist

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

Depends. Are they asking you to partake in their psychotic delusions? You can be medicated AND not be enabled in believing untrue nonsense at the same time. My brother is bipolar with schizoid tendencies. He hears voices. Do you believe the best course of action is to change society around until his delusions become widely accepted? Or should he be medicated and told that they are just a figment of his imagination?

Incorrect! I explained it very well the first time. Please refer back to my enjoyment of the gender is a spectrum game. A man can never be a woman and vice versa.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

hi! i think we have different definitions of “psychotic delusions”. transgender peoples brains actually tend to reflect that they actually have characteristics skewed more towards their desired gender, which means it’s far from a delusion. also, it doesn’t hurt anyone, actually quite the opposite. it is a form of harm reduction. i’m not saying a man can be a woman. no men who are comfortable in their gender is going around transitioning just for the fun of it.

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

I don’t care at all what trans people do. Transition as many times as you would like. Trans “women” do not belong invading women spaces of any kind because they are not women. Trans men I don’t care what they do. Women and men are not the same and should not be treated the same. You’ve venturing off the original topic and making a characterization that was never offered. Nobody is advocating for stopping trans people from transitioning. I’m against pushing your delusional shit onto others and attempting to shame them for not thinking how you do. I’m against grown men with denser muscles and bones beating the living hell out of women in sports and taking away their ability to compete.

Edit: You almost got away with it. You’re wrong. It doesn’t harm reduce in any way whatsoever.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-023-00358-x

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

if you look up some articles about trans women competing in sports, some of them go into depth about how after some time on hormone therapy, trans women do not retain their physical edge

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u/frowny-hedgehog May 03 '23

This is false. Both recent reviews show advantage is retained indefinitely.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

also yes laws have been passed to ban gender-affirming care

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

HAVE THEY? Please cite one that isn’t about stopping child mutilation.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

i’m talking about gender affirming care for minors

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

Yea. Child mutilation. Do you want to take about how absolutely destructive puberty blockers are? Or about how surgeries are irreversible in this field? Maybe about how children have underdeveloped brains and haven’t fully formed identities yet? Maybe how we don’t even know the effects of these chemical castration pills on the brains of the youth? I’m interested in all of these and more!

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

most children are not getting surgeries or even puberty blockers. gender affirming care also includes gender therapy, which is extremely helpful if a minor’s struggling with their identitt

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u/MarkyJ123456 May 03 '23

I don’t care if it’s even one child. That’s too many. This issue is where you will lose all support from normal people. You’ve pushed too far. The boomerang will return.

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u/d0wncasts0ul May 03 '23

would that make them anything less than a baseball player?