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Streamer gets arrested on Tiktok live ARRESTED

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u/biffNicholson 14d ago

what was she arrested for??

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u/KaBar42 14d ago edited 14d ago

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u/UncleVoodooo 14d ago

I'm with the woman on this. No charges were ever filed but they feel violence is an appropriate response to not getting up fast enough?

It's weird. Kill a CEO and everyone can relate, but lose $1000 to a dealership and suddenly it's "well she shouldn't have resisted"

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u/tripper_drip 13d ago

Yes. You know your not supposed to be there. Hippity hoppity get the fuck off the property. You don't "get" to get up slowly, you "get" to get the fuck out.

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u/Dottsterisk 13d ago

I’m fine with her being arrested and paying the price for her crimes, but, just as a general rule, I’m a staunch advocate for police using the minimum amount of force required.

It might mean that they have to talk down some vapid and self-centered asshole before throwing the cuffs on them, instead of just throwing them to the ground, twisting their arms behind their back, stepping on their necks and then throwing the cuffs on them, but I think I’m ok with that.

And to be clear, I’m not at all saying that cops should not be able to use force when faced with a violent/armed person who is a credible threat to the officer or others around.

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u/tripper_drip 13d ago

See, that applies when there is a semblance of ignorance that may be occurring, that is not the case here. She knew she shouldn't have been there. She still went there, the consequences should be immediate. In a sense you got what you wanted, they used the least amount of force necessary to have her leave immediately.

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u/Dottsterisk 13d ago

I guess that’s just where we disagree. If she’s an annoyance but not a real threat, I’m still a strong advocate for minimal force. If she refuses to leave and the cops have to spend time talking her down, throw another charge at her for obstructing justice or resisting arrest or something, but I would still vastly prefer that to unnecessary police violence.

And that’s fully understanding that she is entirely in the wrong.

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u/Own_Lab_3499 12d ago

The issue is that she has already been told that she is not allowed to be there. She is a grown adult, she shouldn't have to be told twice. Its the easiest thing in the world. Simply dont be on their property.

Asking her to leave is just kicking the can further down the road and is a disservice to the property owner in my opinion.

Nobody should have to ask her to leave, she already overstepped. At that point, its time to move to the punishment (arrest.)

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u/Dottsterisk 12d ago

I’m not sure you’re responding to the right person. I never said or suggested that she should not be arrested or punished. I just think the arrest should happen with the least violence necessary, even if it means the operation takes longer.

And if she ends up wasting another hour of the officers’ time because she refuses to cooperate, tack on some more charges or punishment. I just want minimal violence from police or the state in general.

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u/Own_Lab_3499 12d ago

If she is causing an annoyance though, you are still allowing her to be an annoyance if you just sit there and draw it out for an hour. Which is a disservice to the person/people asking to have her removed. Its not just the officers time she's burning, its everyone else's as well.

If i call to have someone removed from my home, i want them removed immediately. Thats the whole reason I called.

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u/Dottsterisk 12d ago

That’s fair. And I can understand an hour being a long time.

My general point is that I want the least amount of violence necessary from the police, but that’s not often what we see. And I value reducing police violence more than I value the officers’ egos or the desire to see self-centered assholes get hurt.

There needs to be a balancing act, because you’re right, it seems wrong that you should have to stand outside your house all night because the cops are trying to negotiate some weirdo out of your house, even if they’re nonviolent and suffering from a mental health episode they can’t control.

But I put a lot of value on reducing police violence, so I would like to see it weighed a bit more heavily in these equations.

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u/Own_Lab_3499 12d ago

Trying to gain physical control of someone can often look violent because quite frankly it is. When gaining total control against someone who is truly resisting, you cant just use 5 or 10% more force than the other person. You have to literally overwhelm them. So yes, sometimes arrests look like there is a disparity in the amount of force being used by both sides because there IS a disparity.

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u/Dottsterisk 12d ago

Physically gaining physical control of someone is violent, but that doesn’t mean it’s always wrong.

But I do very often disagree with the level of violence used by police officers—and how quickly they resort to such violence.

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