Streamer gets arrested on Tiktok live

[u/Royal-Doctor-278]

[u/tripper_drip]

See, that applies when there is a semblance of ignorance that may be occurring, that is not the case here. She knew she shouldn't have been there. She still went there, the consequences should be immediate. In a sense you got what you wanted, they used the least amount of force necessary to have her leave immediately.

[u/Dottsterisk → u/tripper_drip]

I guess that’s just where we disagree. If she’s an annoyance but not a real threat, I’m still a strong advocate for minimal force. If she refuses to leave and the cops have to spend time talking her down, throw another charge at her for obstructing justice or resisting arrest or something, but I would still vastly prefer that to unnecessary police violence.

And that’s fully understanding that she is entirely in the wrong.

[u/Own_Lab_3499 → u/Dottsterisk]

The issue is that she has already been told that she is not allowed to be there. She is a grown adult, she shouldn't have to be told twice. Its the easiest thing in the world. Simply dont be on their property.

Asking her to leave is just kicking the can further down the road and is a disservice to the property owner in my opinion.

Nobody should have to ask her to leave, she already overstepped. At that point, its time to move to the punishment (arrest.)

[u/Dottsterisk → u/Own_Lab_3499]

I’m not sure you’re responding to the right person. I never said or suggested that she should not be arrested or punished. I just think the arrest should happen with the least violence necessary, even if it means the operation takes longer.

And if she ends up wasting another hour of the officers’ time because she refuses to cooperate, tack on some more charges or punishment. I just want minimal violence from police or the state in general.

[u/Own_Lab_3499 → u/Dottsterisk]

If she is causing an annoyance though, you are still allowing her to be an annoyance if you just sit there and draw it out for an hour. Which is a disservice to the person/people asking to have her removed. Its not just the officers time she's burning, its everyone else's as well.

If i call to have someone removed from my home, i want them removed immediately. Thats the whole reason I called.

[u/Dottsterisk → u/Own_Lab_3499]

That’s fair. And I can understand an hour being a long time.

My general point is that I want the least amount of violence necessary from the police, but that’s not often what we see. And I value reducing police violence more than I value the officers’ egos or the desire to see self-centered assholes get hurt.

There needs to be a balancing act, because you’re right, it seems wrong that you should have to stand outside your house all night because the cops are trying to negotiate some weirdo out of your house, even if they’re nonviolent and suffering from a mental health episode they can’t control.

But I put a lot of value on reducing police violence, so I would like to see it weighed a bit more heavily in these equations.

[u/Own_Lab_3499 → u/Dottsterisk]

Trying to gain physical control of someone can often look violent because quite frankly it is. When gaining total control against someone who is truly resisting, you cant just use 5 or 10% more force than the other person. You have to literally overwhelm them. So yes, sometimes arrests look like there is a disparity in the amount of force being used by both sides because there IS a disparity.

[u/Dottsterisk → u/Own_Lab_3499]

Physically gaining physical control of someone is violent, but that doesn’t mean it’s always wrong.

But I do very often disagree with the level of violence used by police officers—and how quickly they resort to such violence.