r/amibeingdetained • u/Royal-Doctor-278 • 12d ago

Streamer gets arrested on Tiktok live ARRESTED

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u/squintbro 12d ago

This made me happy

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u/biffNicholson 12d ago

what was she arrested for??

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u/KaBar42 12d ago edited 12d ago

She ~~threatened violence~~ sent threatening messages and wouldn't leave.

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/Kamloops/516268/Woman-who-live-streamed-her-own-arrest-on-TikTok-wants-to-take-Kamloops-Mounties-to-court

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u/OkieBobbie 10d ago

Frootloops in Kamloops.

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u/UncleVoodooo 12d ago

I'm with the woman on this. No charges were ever filed but they feel violence is an appropriate response to not getting up fast enough?

It's weird. Kill a CEO and everyone can relate, but lose $1000 to a dealership and suddenly it's "well she shouldn't have resisted"

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u/tripper_drip 11d ago

Yes. You know your not supposed to be there. Hippity hoppity get the fuck off the property. You don't "get" to get up slowly, you "get" to get the fuck out.

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u/Dottsterisk 11d ago

I’m fine with her being arrested and paying the price for her crimes, but, just as a general rule, I’m a staunch advocate for police using the minimum amount of force required.

It might mean that they have to talk down some vapid and self-centered asshole before throwing the cuffs on them, instead of just throwing them to the ground, twisting their arms behind their back, stepping on their necks and then throwing the cuffs on them, but I think I’m ok with that.

And to be clear, I’m not at all saying that cops should not be able to use force when faced with a violent/armed person who is a credible threat to the officer or others around.

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u/tripper_drip 11d ago

See, that applies when there is a semblance of ignorance that may be occurring, that is not the case here. She knew she shouldn't have been there. She still went there, the consequences should be immediate. In a sense you got what you wanted, they used the least amount of force necessary to have her leave immediately.

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u/Dottsterisk 11d ago

I guess that’s just where we disagree. If she’s an annoyance but not a real threat, I’m still a strong advocate for minimal force. If she refuses to leave and the cops have to spend time talking her down, throw another charge at her for obstructing justice or resisting arrest or something, but I would still vastly prefer that to unnecessary police violence.

And that’s fully understanding that she is entirely in the wrong.

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u/Own_Lab_3499 10d ago

The issue is that she has already been told that she is not allowed to be there. She is a grown adult, she shouldn't have to be told twice. Its the easiest thing in the world. Simply dont be on their property.

Asking her to leave is just kicking the can further down the road and is a disservice to the property owner in my opinion.

Nobody should have to ask her to leave, she already overstepped. At that point, its time to move to the punishment (arrest.)

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u/Dottsterisk 10d ago

I’m not sure you’re responding to the right person. I never said or suggested that she should not be arrested or punished. I just think the arrest should happen with the least violence necessary, even if it means the operation takes longer.

And if she ends up wasting another hour of the officers’ time because she refuses to cooperate, tack on some more charges or punishment. I just want minimal violence from police or the state in general.

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u/Own_Lab_3499 10d ago

If she is causing an annoyance though, you are still allowing her to be an annoyance if you just sit there and draw it out for an hour. Which is a disservice to the person/people asking to have her removed. Its not just the officers time she's burning, its everyone else's as well.

If i call to have someone removed from my home, i want them removed immediately. Thats the whole reason I called.

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u/Dottsterisk 10d ago

That’s fair. And I can understand an hour being a long time.

My general point is that I want the least amount of violence necessary from the police, but that’s not often what we see. And I value reducing police violence more than I value the officers’ egos or the desire to see self-centered assholes get hurt.

There needs to be a balancing act, because you’re right, it seems wrong that you should have to stand outside your house all night because the cops are trying to negotiate some weirdo out of your house, even if they’re nonviolent and suffering from a mental health episode they can’t control.

But I put a lot of value on reducing police violence, so I would like to see it weighed a bit more heavily in these equations.

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u/realparkingbrake 11d ago

I’m a staunch advocate for police using the minimum amount of force required.

Which is what was happening until she decided she gets to snatch up her belongings as they are trying to cuff her.

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u/Excellent_Shirt9707 11d ago

Nah. Can’t baby these idiots. They’ve been spoiled all their lives. You don’t get to that level of entitlement easily. For some, this will be a wake up call.

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u/theonethat3 10d ago

"I’m fine with her being arrested and paying the price for her crimes, but, just as a general rule, I’m a staunch advocate for police using the minimum amount of force required.

It might mean that they have to talk down some vapid and self-centered asshole before throwing the cuffs on them, instead of just throwing them to the ground, twisting their arms behind their back, stepping on their necks and then throwing the cuffs on them, but I think I’m ok with that.

And to be clear, I’m not at all saying that cops should not be able to use force when faced with a violent/armed person who is a credible threat to the officer or others around."

So if someone goes into your house, can they take their time and being ignorant if you ask them to leave?

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u/Dottsterisk 10d ago

Read that last paragraph of mine that you quoted.

But yes, if someone who is nonviolent and non-threatening is having a mental health episode and ends up wandering into my kitchen and breaking down, I really don’t mind at all if the police take their time treating this person like a human and getting them help, rather than abusing them and wrecking my place by getting in an entirely unnecessary wrestling match and throwing that person and my stuff all around.

And that’s if they decide to even go that route, as opposed to just opening fire and giving my kitchen a new coat of red paint.

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u/SailsTacks 9d ago

Same here, but I balance my expectations with the fact that a cop’s job is to literally look for people their entire shift who are breaking the law and who want no interaction with them whatsoever. You could tell from the get-go that she was going to be a problem, just by her domineering demeanor. When a subject starts dictating to the police what the rules are, asserting their right to do whatever they want, trying to control the conversation and be “the boss”, it always goes sideways.

I watched a video two days ago of a car chase of four teens that were eventually pitted after many, many miles. Highway patrol surrounds them and drags them out of the car, cuffs them. Almost immediately, they start making demands like they’re on a cruise ship, and the cops are the staff there to serve them. “I need my phone to call my mom.” I need this, I need that.

Little bastards could have killed multiple people while acting foolish, and then want to act like they’re the shot callers. “Get your dumb ass in the backseat.”

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u/Dottsterisk 8d ago

Trying to control the conversation, having a domineering/disrespectful demeanor, or acting entitled can be annoying as fuck, especially when that person has just clearly been in the wrong in a major way, but it still doesn’t warrant real violence in my opinion.

An officer of the law should have the composure to deal with annoyances in a nonviolent manner IMO.

Like the guy in the cuffs you mentioned: he was acting entitled as fuck and making demands, but I definitely would not be OK with the cops roughing him up for it.

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u/chrissie_watkins 11d ago

If someone breaks into your house or business after you've banned them, and they refuse to leave, you can have them physically carried out and charged with trespassing (or not charge them if you want to cut them a break). If they pull away or fight back against the cops removing them from the property, that's a crime in and of itself. It's pretty straightforward.

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u/UncleVoodooo 11d ago

no wonder you're in a sov cit group.

Prosecutors decide to press charges. Not victims. Stop learning the legal system from TV.

It's really funny you bring this up because i've been in this situation. The cops could not, actually, carry the other person out. The cops told me I had to prove to a court that this person did not belong in my house. No violence just due process.

That doesn't apply when the state is protecting a business. Cops don't ask questions they just arrest and let prosecutors straighten out. Except now she has a resisting arrest charge too because she reached for her phone.

This video is a perfect example of everything wrong with this country. The fact that ya'll support it blows my mind and I suddenly realize why nobody cares that we have more homeless people than ever and more prisoners per capita than any other country

And are you ready for the punchline? THIS VIDEO IS CANADA!!! - Jackboots are *global* baby

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

You sound well adjusted 🤣

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u/UncleVoodooo 11d ago

fuck no I'm not! I've spent christmas morning listening to people tell me legality is morality. Like this whole sub would be pissed at emancipation because slavery was just a FAFO under the "law"

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

I recommend therapy

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u/realparkingbrake 11d ago

Like this whole sub would be pissed at emancipation

Death, taxes, and the ACAB community being addicted to theatrical overstatement.

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u/UncleVoodooo 11d ago

Why do I have to be ACAB community to be pissed at taxpayers paying for injustice.

If you and I have a fight and the cops get called, the cops are going to talk to you then talk to me and try and charge the guilty party. That doesn't happen when a dealership calls them even though the dealership is pretty fucking likely to be in the wrong.

I guess if thinking that's fucked up starts unraveling some threads about the real purpose of cops ...

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u/realparkingbrake 11d ago

Prosecutors decide to press charges. Not victims.

Depends where you are and what the offense is. I've watched people decline to press charges and the cops have to let the alleged offender go.

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u/UncleVoodooo 11d ago

yeah you did - on TV

sluuuuuuuuuuuuuurp

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u/Darigaazrgb 8d ago

The cops don't HAVE to let the alleged offender go. If they have enough evidence to provide the prosecutor with a good case then they will disregard a victim refusing to cooperate. That's all "pressing charges" is, expressing your desire to cooperate with the investigation, but it's not always needed.

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u/Usual_Item524 10d ago

Yep, the dude who killed the CEO is going to jail for the rest of his life. Maybe don't kill people. Don't feel bad for him whatsoever.

As for this lady, she's clearly just being a bitch and she's just getting kicked out of the place. She could have just left like a normal human being but she wanted to test some shit out

I'm rooting for the cops in that situation because it's clear she's just dumb and throwing a tantrum

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u/soherewearent 11d ago

IMO, not enough information about this lady's incident to make a determination.

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u/UncleVoodooo 11d ago

I worked at a dealership. If she says they stole 1000 that means they tried to steal 5000.

If she wants to prove it she has to pay money to file a lawsuit. If they say she's threatening their property there's no trial just violence. Does that not seem wrong?

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u/soherewearent 11d ago

If she said they stole $1k and they won't refund, that's a pretty straightforward (and inexpensive) small claims case. If she were to win, she'd likely also be awarded the fees from filing.

Instead, she trespassed (twice?) and was arrested so now has far more fees and time inconvenience involved. If she had a job, that could be at-risk for a potential no-show-no-call if she was still in jail.

IMO, avoid being arrested over $1k when it could cost you much more.

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u/pr3mium 11d ago

I don't know how it is in Canada, and the max dollar amount to be won is different depending on location in America, but we have small claims court. It's a simple process where you don't need to hire a lawyer.

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u/UncleVoodooo 11d ago

No but when you're suing the cops for wrongful arrest things change