r/Republican • u/TanviVats • 1d ago
šØBREAKING: President Trump plans to make Election Day a national holiday, implement single-day voting, paper ballots, and government-issued voter ID .. WHAT AN AMAZING CHRISTMAS PRESENT! News
šØBREAKING: President Trump plans to make Election Day a national holiday, implement single-day voting, paper ballots, and government-issued voter ID .. WHAT AN AMAZING CHRISTMAS PRESENT!
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u/trustintruth 1d ago
I looked for any news on this and can't find it.
What's the source?
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u/everydayimchapulin 22h ago
It's made up propaganda. A lot of the posters here just want it to seem like Trump has done something incredible every day even though he isn't in office yet and he can still promise whatever he wants to.
People just need to cool their jets. He's not even in the office yet. You don't have to brown nose so hard.
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u/Donkey-kong_69 18h ago
Isnāt this on his website though? I remember seeing he wanted to change voting to same day voting with paper ballots just like this post said and thereās a video on his website going more in depth on it somewhere.
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u/trustintruth 10h ago
Care to help the group and share a link?
Also, this headline says "Breaking", indicating it is new news, and actually a policy he is moving forward with.
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u/Donkey-kong_69 9h ago
Just look up agenda 47 and look at his 19th policy āsecure our elections, including same day voting, voter identification, paper ballots, and proof of citizenship.ā And he has videos where he goes in depth on his policies more.
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u/trustintruth 8h ago
So not new, "breaking" news at all? No official, concrete decree as the OP indicated.
Deceit.
That's all I'm saying.
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u/Donkey-kong_69 8h ago
Itās not really a lie thoughā¦I mean itās not new but itās not a lie when Trump literally said what he plans to do what the OP posted. Why are you getting so mad over something so little is my question? Is this really that big of a deal to you? And are you stating Trumps own words are ānot officialā?
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u/trustintruth 8h ago
Notice how I used the word "deceit", not lie?
I'm not getting mad at all. Just calling it like I see it. We should demand more truthfulness, and the first step to that is calling out when people skew reality like OP.
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u/LuckyBoxStretcher 19h ago
Did you even try to look? I just googled it and itās everywhere
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u/trustintruth 10h ago
No you didn't. I googled it many different ways, "including trump election day federal holiday" in the search and news section, and nothing came up.
How easy it would be for you to share a link...
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u/LuckyBoxStretcher 8m ago
I just searched again and this is the first thing at the top. Thereās many results
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u/MaxGrata 1d ago
How could one justify disagreeing with this?
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u/hlipschitz 1d ago
States rights
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u/Original_Dankster 1d ago
Precisely why it'll never happen.
Constitutionally, the process of choosing electors is 100% up to the individual states.
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u/Human-Shirt-7351 1d ago
Unfortunately yes. I agree with him, but he would be majorly over stepping here.
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u/banned_account_002 1d ago
Luckily, Biden/Obama have redefined stomping on rights. The only issue is the same DAs & judges, purchased by Soros, that allowed that to happen won't allow it to happen with this administration. "It's (D)ifferent rules for thee and not for we"
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u/NohoTwoPointOh 1d ago
In federal elections? Nope. Otherwise we'd have dipshit states having poll taxes or election literacy tests asking people questions like "How many bubbles in a bar of soap?"
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u/ivylass 1d ago
I like early voting. Why can't we keep that?
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u/Awdvr491 1d ago
Because you will have all the time on voting day to vote. So early will be pointless since it's usually used as an excuse of being busy that day or at work.
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u/ivylass 1d ago
Not everyone has the day off. Hospitals, police, firefighters, and I'll bet many retailers won't close.
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u/Awdvr491 1d ago
Early voting will not go away. Dont work yourself up over nothing.
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u/ivylass 1d ago
The OP states Trump wants single day voting. But I guess I won't worry my pretty little head over it.
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u/banned_account_002 1d ago
Had the poor purple-hair heading to the safe room before you talked them down from anxiety/PTSD.
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u/NohoTwoPointOh 1d ago
Hence "FEDERAL HOLIDAY".
But in spirit, you aren't wrong. LIke now, their employer MUST give them ample time to go vote. I'd be fine with a compromise of declaring "essential workers" as they did in Covid. Employers must pay them 3x to 4x their daily salary for working that day OR allow them 3-4 vacation days to be used at their leisure.
We'll see how long Target stays open under those rules.
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u/earl_lemongrab 1d ago
There's no current legal requirement for employers to give time off to vote.
Making it a Federal holiday solves nothing. The only people guaranteed to have Federal holidays off are government workers, government contractors, and some others here and there. (And there are exceptions for certain essential government workers) Some banks don't even close on "minor" holidays
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u/Muted-Comfortable505 1d ago
Yeah, you will have all day to vote if you are a government, in the banking industry or work for the schools etc. this will by no means benefit the average worker in this country.
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u/Awdvr491 1d ago
Have polling hours been mentioned? Could it be that polls are open for 24 hours?
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u/Muted-Comfortable505 1d ago
You comment on my AutoCorrect could you comment on how this is going to benefit the average worker in this country?
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u/Kornbread2000 1d ago
I am a consultant and often have to travel with little notice. For this reason I usually vote early. In this scenario I would be forced to register for an absentee ballot to ensure my right to vote.
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u/Awdvr491 1d ago
I'm sure all that craziness will be worked out. If you have not noticed, trump likes to make outlandish ideas and statements, then work them back until everyone stops freaking out lol.
But requesting an absentee ballot sounds like a pretty easy work around if the bill goes through as it sounds right now.
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u/Lower-Ad6435 1d ago
I didn't have time to go vote when I was deployed overseas. You can't do away with absentee ballots entirely.
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u/Kornbread2000 1d ago
Because voting laws are determined by the states and many people don't believe that the federal government should take away rights from the states.
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u/elgato124 1d ago
I COULD agree with that IF whatever currently available IDs WERE used. Some states... the ones with hidden agendas... don't "require" them.
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u/BaronsGV 1d ago
In California you need three things to register to vote, you can't vote unless you register. You need: A California ID card, the last 4 digits of your Social security number, and your birthdate to register. Once you register you can vote. It is fake news to say you don't need an ID to vote in California. You don't need to show your ID twice. That is redundant. When they check your vote they check your registration. You have to sign it as well. If they find irregularities, they can prosecute you. I just checked and since 1982, there have only been 64 cases of voter fraud in California.
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u/elgato124 1d ago
You had us all in the first half. Then in your grand finale, you used "if" and "can" instead of the preferred "shall" and "will". THAT is the problem with California.
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u/BaronsGV 1d ago
The if is a booleon situation. Is it true that there is voter fraud or false.? They have For-Profit Prisons in California too. They will prosecute you. Someone will make money off of you. Don't illegally vote in California. You will be eating some corporation's moldy food in a prison cafeteria.
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u/Baggss02 Pro 2Aā¦āShall not be infringedā 1d ago
If voting in person, that is absolutely true. If voting by mail itās all questionable.
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u/HYPER-IgM 1d ago
So you want more bureaucracy just because youāre paranoid about ācertainā states even though Trump won pretty convincingly. Either the democrats just decided to take this year off in rigging the election š or youāre drinking way too much of the kool-aid.
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u/az116 1d ago
I donāt. You should get a single free one for whatever period of time theyāre valid for. Which you get by providing the same documentation as a Passport, so you can prove youāre a citizen. It completely destroys liberals absurd and racist argument that minorities are too poor to get IDs.
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u/EqualitySeven-2521 1d ago
Government issued IDs such as drivers licenses are at best reliable measures only of habitancy. They provide no certification of citizenship. Passports or some kind of new ID might be required in order to ensure that only legal US citizens are allowed to vote.
Even passports could be problematic given varying state by state restrictions on voting for some ex-convicts, those possibly being more uniform for federal elections.
Passports are relatively costly. Creating a new form of federal identification could also be costly at the outset, but probably worthwhile looking long-term. Without uniformity and minimum requirements allowing drivers licenses/ state ID to reliably specify more about an individual than they presently do they probably would not serve the purpose of helping to secure US elections.
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u/Baggss02 Pro 2Aā¦āShall not be infringedā 1d ago
Real IDs do provide proof of citizenship . In order to get one in Ca I had to produce proof that I was a US citizen.
That does not, however, mean that fake Real IDs donāt exist.
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u/EqualitySeven-2521 1d ago
Non US citizens can obtain Real ID in California. Here's a a quote from and link to a California DMV page stating very clearly that ...
"Any Californian who can prove their current legal presence in the United States (U.S.) with one of the accepted identity documents (original or certified copy) is eligible to receive a REAL ID driver license or identification (DL/ID) card. This includes all U.S. citizens, permanent residents who are not U.S. citizens (Green Card holders), and those with temporary legal status, such as recipients of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) or Temporary Protected Status (TPS) and holders of a valid student or employment visa."
Of the various forms of identification designated on the above page as acceptable for issuance of a Real ID in California the very frst on the list is foreign passport.
Nowhere on the page is a requirement for any documention of US citizenship mentioned. What documentation was required of you to verify citizenship?
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u/Baggss02 Pro 2Aā¦āShall not be infringedā 1d ago
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u/EqualitySeven-2521 1d ago
What is it about the link that you posted that is supposed to be relevant?
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u/Baggss02 Pro 2Aā¦āShall not be infringedā 19h ago
The requirement to show proof of citizenship which claimed was nowhere to be found. Itās right there at the same source you cited, unless you just want to cherry pick the page that you like.
However, you are correct resident aliens can get Real IDs, which makes them worthless as proof of citizenship.
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u/anon12xyz 1d ago
I think it will cause a time crunch and the lines wonāt move fast enough or what have you and some may not be able to vote
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u/fireanpeaches 1d ago
Waiting in long lines to vote will decrease voters.
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u/Bozzz1 1d ago
Then open more polling locations
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u/jedi21knight 1d ago
I thought polling locations had more to do with the local government and volunteers than state or federal government.
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u/jedi21knight 1d ago
Why donāt we have to have long lines? Early voting doesnāt have to go away.
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u/muxman 1d ago
I don't agree with the arguments they'll use, but it will go something like this.
It's racist to expect people of certain minority groups to be able to obtain and use an ID. Which seems crazy racist itself to put them down like that, but they will.
Or how doing things like this to ensure fair, valid and legal elections is a "threat to democracy." That's the best one. Doing things that ensure votes are cast by citizens, legally and fairly will be what is dragging democracy down.
I'm sure there are more reasons people can come up with, but those two are the ones I always hear as argument against these kinds of things.
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u/ReaganRebellion 1d ago
You think it takes too long to count votes today? Wait until we have hand counted paper ballots.
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u/MarginalMagic 1d ago
Oddly paper ballots were still way quicker than the last 2 digital elections. We never had to wait past election day to see results until the 2010s.
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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 1d ago
Technically unless you are at a pole voting in person on a machine all ballots are on paper and put into a machine and counted nobody is asking for hand counted ballots people are demanding a method that doesn't permit fraud.
Law makers won't get together to do that not because they can cheat but because they know it will happen.
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u/ReaganRebellion 1d ago
I have heard people ask for hand counted ballots. If that's not what's being proposed then good.
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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 1d ago
Hand counts happen when it's a close race and the appearance of fraud that I was talking about gets claimed by one side or the other.
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u/az116 1d ago
Florida uses paper ballots. Theyāre the third largest state. They had 99% of ballots counted within a couple hours of the polls closing. The states that take longer take longer because they choose to, in order to manipulate and āfindā votes for close races. Not a single, as in 0%, of the races that werenāt called within a day of this past election were won by Republicans.
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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 1d ago
I see that working for federal elections only. It's mostlikly state and local government will combat that by changing the day and separating elections. Or Trump can beat them to the punch and separate federal elections from local elections as part of his plan.
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u/calentureca 1d ago
Make the social security card a "real ID/secure ID " and use that for ID to vote, get a job, use a hospital, claim benefits, everything taxpayer funded.
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u/Easy_Collection_4940 1d ago
What about ppl who donāt have a place to vote and have to vote by mail? I ask because I am in that scenario. I live in an unorganized township that doesnāt have a polling place for me to vote at. Am I an exception or will I not get to vote?
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u/CrimsonChymist 1d ago
You have a polling place. You may not know where it is, but you have one.
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u/Easy_Collection_4940 1d ago
I donāt. I get a ballot in the mail. I can mail it in or drive two hours to drop it off two hours away at my county office where I have to pay for parking in a lot that fits about 20 cars. This would be a nightmare for my area.
Iām all for in person voting but I wouldnāt support something that makes me have to drive two hours to vote where I have to drop my ballot off. In my area, republicans would lose votes in closely contested elections if he did this. Definitely needs to make exceptions if he does this.
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u/Vintagepoolside what do any of the labels even mean, man? 1d ago
Yeah no one is thinking about these situations. Itās not just going up to the local place real quick, it will be much harder on the places that donāt have adequate resources.
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u/Easy_Collection_4940 1d ago
Exactly. In theory, it sounds great but a lot of those who voted for him, myself included, will have a lot of trouble doing this unless he establishes guidelines for polling places within x miles/minutes from your home or exceptions like mine. The former places a burden on already limited resources of small towns/townships and the latter keeps open some potential for voter fraud. However, losing small areas like mine, where a republican won by 300 votes, will impact future elections.
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u/Vintagepoolside what do any of the labels even mean, man? 1d ago
Iāll be honest, I didnāt vote for him, but I try to consume equal parts of media for the parties. (Truly felt bad no matter who I would vote for). But anyway, Iām from a RED state, and the state also has a very high rate of disabilities, and lack of resources in general. The state is so red that I doubt this would affect them much in terms of who wins, but I still believe everyone should have the ease of access to voting. Whether I agree or not, what makes our freedom the best is being able to vote accessibly.
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u/Easy_Collection_4940 1d ago
You said it, voter accessibility. Iām in a blue state with my county and township voting red. I would imagine thereās the reverse happening in other states. I donāt want anyone to lose access to voting simply because they are too rural.
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u/justanother_user30 1d ago
Why would anyone want single day voting? Early voting was my only opportunity to vote.
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u/Dingleator 1d ago
And getting rid of postal votes will be problematic too. There will be people that need and can only vote via post!
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u/atomic1fire 1d ago
I'd rather have the day after election day as a national holiday so that I can distance myself from whatever outrage will inevitably occur.
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u/TheHitman503 1d ago
As long as the š is free because it's my constitutional right to be able to vote. Any cost past on would be a way to gate keep voting to those that could afford to do so. Just an id in my state is 45.00 bucks and you think where all getting voter IDs.... Yea,I don't think so
Mail in voting with signature match verification is never going away.
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u/et_hornet Moderate šŗš² 1d ago
What is single day voting?
Other than that everything sounds good
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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 1d ago
That would be getting off the couch on nov5 and going and getting in line to vote on that day only.
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u/ReaganRebellion 1d ago
National holidays apply to very few people in this country. How are 200 million people going to be able to vote in 12 hours?
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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 1d ago edited 1d ago
The Same way they do it where there isn't mail in ballots and the way it's been done before the country came up with that lame ass excuse to justify mail in ballots.
Other than that I have no idea.
Personally I don't have a problem with having a ballot mailed to me so I can take my time filling it out. What I have a problem with is the ability to send it back and having someone have possession of it a month before election day.
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u/ntvryfrndly 1d ago
India can do it with 1457 million people, so why can't the USA?
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u/ProphetBlade 1d ago
India is willing to fly helicopters to people living in isolated mountains that aren't easy to traverse in order to drop off and pickup their ballots. Do you think the US is willing to do that for every person that lives in isolated areas? No? Probably why we have mail in ballots I guess.
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u/Vintagepoolside what do any of the labels even mean, man? 1d ago
Yeah but we canāt just ignore the vast amount of people with disabilities, childcare, elder care, etc. what about them? Especially in rural areas, where setting that up for yourself is not as simple as having someone else do it or help.
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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 1d ago
I believe that would be called absentee voting and something Trump is in favor of. However the exception should not be the excuse for everyone which is exactly how mail in ballots started to begin with.
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u/Vintagepoolside what do any of the labels even mean, man? 1d ago
I think some people are underestimating just how many people that would be. My home state has such a high rate of disabilities, and thatās not going into the issues of no public transportation, the distance some people will have to go to vote, etc. there are so many that the exceptions would be greater than the non-exceptions.
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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 1d ago
Wait what, are you saying there's a state where there is more disabled people living off the government than people that aren't š¤ man what the hell kinda disease has the country come down with.
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u/Vintagepoolside what do any of the labels even mean, man? 1d ago
Iām not talking just about the disabled persons, but also the people who are caretakers. When the state is so poor they arenāt paying someone to do that, itās a family member(s) doing it. And, again, Iām talking about my home state which is literally at the ātopā of every negative statistic you can imagine, so yes, the rates are high and the amount of other people āhelping outā is high.
Edit: I looked it up, almost 20% of the state has a disability, and those are the ones actually reporting and doing anything about it. Many of them, my own mother included, should be on disability but wonāt do it for pride reasons.
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u/Roguspogus 1d ago
Thatās the only part I donāt get either. Why not more than one day?
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u/et_hornet Moderate šŗš² 1d ago
I guess because itās a holiday the logic behind early voting doesnāt carry as much weight. I donāt think itās a good enough excuse tho, early voting should be a week before Election Day
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u/Roguspogus 1d ago
I mean someone could be sick, injured, need a babysitter, or not have the day off. So many reasons s to have more than one day.
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u/Muted-Comfortable505 1d ago
Making it a national holiday is ridiculous. The only people that will are government, financial, schools etcā¦ it will not benefit in any way shape or form the average US S citizen.
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u/SlagathorMLG 1d ago
Single day voting? Absolutely not, I get the rhetoric behind this, but I love early voting. Iāve voted ONE time on Election Day and it sucked. Every time since, Iāve chosen no lines.
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u/Royal_Prize_4381 From My Cold Dead Hands 1d ago
I was able to vote without any idā¦it was surprising. A good surprise for me as I had lost my wallet a couple days before the election, but still shocking that I was able to vote like that
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u/Callec254 1d ago
The holiday thing he can do, but I don't think he can tell states how to run their elections - best he can do is tell them how they should run their elections and then we can all watch them spin and try to defend their easily-defraudable methods.
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u/Beachfun757 1d ago
This would be a wonderful idea. Nationsl Holiday everyone could vote early. 99.9% of Americans now have some type of ID. IDs are free at DMVs throughout the country. No Excuse now.
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u/WarrenLee 1d ago
As much as I wouldnāt love another ID, using a SSN for everything is dumb and costs millions in ID theft. A better ID would be welcomed if it was for voting and whatever else. (Iām sure it would come with tighter surveillance too, but there are no solutions, only trade offs).
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u/Celebril63 1d ago
I think the one think that is highly unlikely is a government issued ID. And for the same reason that a national ID is DOA.
On the other hand, I do think appropriate regulations can be instituted to have the same, if not better, effect.
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u/LoyalKopite 1d ago
Double paid holiday for me as I am law enforcement and election day worker as well.
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u/JohannLandier75 Centrist 1d ago
It sounds good in a lot of aspects but I donāt think he will get around the constitution.
āThe Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.ā
It does seem congress can alter some of it but I donāt think you will get the house and the senate to pass that. The Supreme Court has pretty much sided with the states for the last 250 years on this. Also youāre not going to get states to get rid of early voting or go back to paper ballots.
If he tried to change it through executive order then he would probably loose in a law suit over separation of powers as elections and their administration is a legislative function and delegated to the states
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u/BaronsGV 1d ago
Making Election Day a national holiday is a great idea.
Single day voting is antiquated. In the next election there is going to be more than 156,302,318 (the number of people who voted in 2024) With that many votes to count it is better that they take their time and get it right.
Think about it like this, Imagine if you had a book you checked out from a library. To turn it in you can't turn it in before the date, they make it so you can only turn it in on the date. This is silly. It is better that you get a good amount of time to turn in your votes early.
What needs to change is they need to set a day two weeks out from election day where it gets announced who is the presumed winner. The media needs to step back, and stop calling elections on election day. There are a number of required recounts mandated by a lot of states, just to be sure, and it is presumptive to announce the winner too soon. I want the votes counted thoroughly, carefully, and diligently before anything is officially announced and called. Wanting things to be done all on the same day is just inviting error. In an elections there is a series of stages before they actually officially know who won. Election counters really don't have it fully sorted out until early December. Statistical Victory - The odds are in favor of a specific candidate - November 7th, Mathematical Victory - The number of votes is larger for a candidate than the remaining votes left to count - November 13th, Official Victory - They know for certain who the winner is - December 7th. This video has a good break down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXQ1ieFRr0o
Paper ballots. See the 2000 election. Those were paper ballots. It was still an issue. They used punch card versions in Florida, and those were terrible. I've only ever used paper ballots where you fill in the ovals with black ink. I know this is also flawed because I've had to check on my scantron tests at school and uncovered shenanigans. There is no fool proof version of this, you just have to trust the people counting the votes. Luckily there is a huge division of labor here and it isn't handled by a single entity. This makes it very hard to rig an election in the US. There are too many moving parts.
Government issued voter ID. The way it works in Arizona is I have to register first before I can vote. I give them my drivers license number. In Arizona voter registration is handled by the DMV. When it is election time I get a ballot in the mail. I fill it out. I do not have to wait in a line. I can mail it, or I can drop it off. I drop it off because mail is slower than I am. I do not need to show an ID twice. There is no redundant show of ID. There is a signature on my ballot affirming I'm not lying. Which, I suppose is fine, maybe pointless, but how do they know what my signature looks like? The process is smooth in Arizona.
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u/Independent_Blood_39 1d ago
While I like all of this, there are many workers who can not vote directly on election day. Firefighters, police, healthcare workers, etc., with essential jobs. Maybe I'm not quite understanding and would love to hear responses. Voter ID is a MUST HAVE on a federal level. Also, paper ballots that can be directly traced by the individual voter are paramount. There should also be requirements for states to review voter roles EVERY year to make sure all voters are legit and alive. No matter who agrees or not, fraud is a definite issue in voting, and we need to require its eradication, no matter what side of the aisle.
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u/foodie_geek 1d ago
I agree with everything if all those are true.
Govt issued ID National holiday Not sure about paper ballots, but it was never a deal breaker for me
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u/jaylay75 1d ago
This is not going to happen. It would be great if it did but it's not. Currently, less than 50% of eligible voters actually vote, implementing this would bring that number up and could easily sway the outcome.
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u/Chasethebutterz 1d ago
Australia has the best system in this regardsā¦ They get a holiday, they get a free hotdog, and they pay a tax if they DONāT vote.
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u/-Cerberus 21h ago
Iām old enough to remember that this was a thing republicans stood against. They insisted that you can just get the time off, or vote early, or absentee ballot.
Good to see they are coming around to making it a federal holiday.
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u/latinosingh 1d ago
As a Democrat, I keep finding more and more common ground with Trump policies. This is a huge strengthening of our democracyā¦!
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u/whiteajah365 1d ago
This is amazing! But can he do this? States control their own voting laws. Wouldnāt this need to be an act of congress or done by individual states?
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u/NINTENDONEOGEO 1d ago
Paper ballots sounds great. Voter ID sounds great. Election day being a federal holiday sounds great.
But what is gained by eliminating early voting? We have a lot of people in this country. Why not cut down on wait times by having a week or two to vote in person on a paper ballot with a voter ID?
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u/elgato124 1d ago
For the record, OP has not provided a source for this.
Enjoy the Comments section.
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u/Pixiefeet78 1d ago
Paper ballots yes except absentee ballots. However if you live in state you need to get your butt up and go to the voting booth
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u/diodeltrex 1d ago
Everyone should get the day off to go vote. Even if you work 9-5 you either have to get up super early or take chances at getting to the polls towards the end of the day when lines are gonna be the busiest. Giving everyone the day off would get rid of the need to vote early or through the mail. Win freaking win.
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u/Rowan22__ 1d ago
I definitely agree that Election Day should be a national holiday and Iām fine with voter ID. But there are so many valid reasons why someone would need or want to vote early.