r/worldbuilding May All Be Well 1d ago

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u/Street-Conclusion-99 20h ago

Spacesuits don’t usually have rigid joints, likely for weight reasons. It’s typically a rubber garment strapped together with something called the restraint layer (prevents it from ballooning outwards) this makes it difficult to move in, like inflating a surgical glove before doing surgery, but it’s industry standard for now

In the future we might see a switch to mechanical counter pressure garments, which exert the needed pressure without using an atmosphere (like a tight compression garment), but the tech isn’t quite there yet

Yea the shielding is for ionizing radiation, but also thermal radiation (insulation), but the thin layers stacked on top of each other function as a rudimentary whipple shield to halt micrometeors

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u/guitarenthusiast1s 20h ago

I'm pretty sure the new suits (that were being developed by collins I think?) have rigid joints.

where do you get your info from? have you worked with spacesuits?

also, I don't expect suits to provide any protection from ionizing radiation, I don't think it's possible to meet both mobility and shielding requirements; the physics don't allow it

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u/Street-Conclusion-99 17h ago

Yeah, the more modern ones have more in the way of joints, but all current operational emus have none You don’t ever need to block ALL radiation, but even then, a few layers of Mylar do a decent job at reducing it

I haven’t worked directly with spacesuits (yet), but have more of a hobby with them, but have had a chance to view several up close and speak with those who work on them

That being said, I don’t specialize in the older style of pressure bladders or even rigid jointing, I’m mainly interested in mechanical counterpressure as an option

Sorry for the rambling, I just think spacesuits are neat:)

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u/guitarenthusiast1s 17h ago

have you read kim stanley robinson's mars series? I think they use mechanical counter-pressure suits in those.

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u/Street-Conclusion-99 17h ago

I haven’t, most of my knowledge actually comes from some VERY old nasa papers on the subject, and the few modern projects attempting it. Still plenty of issues left to solve, but certainly the move for most future suits.  Currently, the single hardest issue is donning/doffing the damn thing, since by necessity it MUST be tight, and must never fail in a way that prevents it from being tight. Once I stop procrastinating I’ll talk to the memory metal guy at NASA (I’m sure there’s multiple but I’ve only met one), to see if there’s anything that fits the profile I need

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u/guitarenthusiast1s 16h ago

yeah, I would recommend the series, it talks about all of that if I recall correctly