Police officers say cannabis is effectively ‘decriminalised’ in the UK

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https://www.leafie.co.uk/news/police-cannabis-decriminalised-survey/

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That report presumably not aware that police policy is not to stop based on that alone as per CoP guidance?

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CoP guidance probably says the police shouldn’t rape people too but it doesn’t seem to discourage them.

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Much like the law itself doesn't discourage the general public who commit rape at a far higher rate than police officers do...

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Weird take to say that the number of police officers running around raping people is okay.

At this point if someone tells me they’re a police officer I just kind of assume they’re a rapist because if they aren’t then they’re clearly fine with being seen as one or they’d get a better job.

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More like it's a weird take to make everything about rape

It's quickly becoming the new "it's like Nazi Germany"-style argument as regards the police, it gets rolled out every day no matter how tenuous the link. Maybe you could take a day off.

Edit: Not to mention that, in any case, your argument was essentially the fallacious argument people can roll out about any policy/law when they feel like it, that being that laws/rules are pointless because people can still break them. Which of course misses the whole point.

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Maybe the police should take a day off from all the raping?

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Maybe the whole country should take a day off from all the raping?

Don't see why the 99% of victims who weren't raped by police officers should be left to suffer...

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They’re just left to suffer by the police and CPS who don’t take rape cases seriously and have an appallingly low conviction rate.

Because we’ve got foxes guarding the henhouse.

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If you think "the police" as a whole are "foxes", by which I assume you mean rapists/would-be-rapists/rape-sympathisers, then I think you need to take a break from the internet for a bit ang get some perspective.

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Kinda feels like you’re launching a personal attack in lieu of an argument against an extremely valid and widely held criticism of the police.

Without making too much of an assumption about your profession I’d suggest a bit of introspection on why the police have become seen as non-receptive to criticism.

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It's not a personal attack against police officers to assume they're "foxes"? As opposed to there being a number of very real difficulties when it comes to prosecuting rape cases? I do enjoy how you lumped the CPS in as also apparently being a bunch of rapists just because that's necessary to help explain the statistics also lol.

Well seemingly it was too much of an assumption. Introspection on my part has no relevance to the police as I'm not a police officer. Shockingly there are some people out there not employed by the police who haven't convinced themselves every police officer is a closet sex offender.

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It’s not a personal attack because “the police” is an organisation and not a person.

That’s what “personal” means.

Jesus Christ.

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The police are people. If you make the argument that the police are "foxes", that's a comment on the individual officers.

It's, hard to tell though given that your whole position is essentially to boil an organisation (or really, a group of organisations) totalling 130,000 people into a mould of rapists or rape-supporters, because that's the outlook you've built for yourself about the police.

I mean, 10 minutes ago you were saying "the police should stop raping people" or words to that effect. So now you're saying that by, "the police" you mean organisationally, and so the police as an organisation was committing rapes presumably? That's clearly not what you meant (unless you're really far-gone), but I assume you can see why it makes it hard to follow when you try and have it both ways?

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The fact that conviction rates are so low if anything suggests that the police and cps pursue charges that havent got solid evidential basis. Theyre not meant to even charge you unless its over a 50% chance of conviction, in reality its 2% for rape. Which means theyre actually pretty liberal with charging people even when the evidence is weak. The CPS isnt to blame for a juries' verdict anyway, so your point is kinda silly.

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Okay do the police incompetently bungling cases on a massive scale is proof of how much they care?

That’s an original take at least.

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CPS aren’t made up of police officers. They’re generally lawyers. So do you think all lawyers are rapists too?

People like you will criticise police for stopping and searching “all Asian men” and in the same breath call all police rapists. Completely unironically.

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I’m aware of who the CPS are.

Who are “people like me”?

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People who assume all police are corrupt or racist or whatever name calling that fits your narrative that day.

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Okay so how much raping are the police allowed to do before I’m allowed to have a problem with it?

Could you give me a number? How many people can they rape per year?

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Maybe you should be asking why men rape so much. It’s not a police issue - it’s a man issue. It’s not just police who rape women.