Hey everyone! Kinda weird posting this, but Im Admiral Byrds grandson. My fathers mother was Eleanor Byrd. We called her “Bomie”. Wonderful women. My dad used to read to me his book “Alone” as a kid and The Admiral was truly a wonderful writer and great explorer.

I’ve always been a fan of UFOs and kinda fun topic. Growing up and finding out about Hollow Earth, Operation Highjump, the infamous journal was always kinda cool as my grandfather was linked. “Could there be something more mysterious?”

It was a fun conspiracy to think about. But as the UFO conversation has become a lot more serious of late, I’ve been a lot more engaged.

With all that said, I’m curious on what the community thinks of The Admiral and thoughts with possible contact in relation to him. Do y’all think the journal is real? Did something happen during OH? What is the evidence? Or just a fun story? Anyhoo, exciting times.

I keep hearing how we’re ready to hear the truth. We already know life exists in our universe (we exist) and NASA has found a number of earth-like planets, so very likely there is life out there. So the government should just come out with the truth if we are being visited.

However, I don’t think we’re ready to hear there are intelligent beings from other worlds with super-advanced technology visiting us.

A hugely significant portion of the world is still religious and/or have some kind of woo-woo belief (psychics, astrology, etc). It’s going to completely shatter the worldview of some of these people and that shouldn’t be taken lightly. It could be hugely traumatic for them.

Even I, as an atheist who does not believe in anything supernatural, get anxiety thinking about this topic. I’ve always found this topic fascinating yet massively anxiety provoking. There’s some kind of primal fear that gets triggered when I imagine there are intelligent beings flying around in their super advanced craft, hiding under the ocean, etc. We have no idea what they’re like, what they want and if they’re friendly or hostile. Then even if these ones are friendly, if they are coming here it makes you more aware of the fact that hostile ones could eventually come here too. There is literally nothing we can do to stop them. This isn’t Hollywood where we can defeat them by hacking their computers while Will Smith flies around in one of their ships. Or they’ll have a water allergy or die from catching the cold.

I can’t even watch anything about alien abductions, it petrifies me.

There’s also been cases, such as Brazil’s “Operação Prato”, where UFOs were allegedly attacking people with microwaves and some of the investigators allegedly had nervous breakdowns and one ended in suicide. It’s not hard to see how the existence of ETs could potentially trigger mental illness in some people. It’s such a dramatic shift in worldview that some people just wouldn’t be able to handle it.

As much as I love this topic, I and I’m sure a significant number or other people am not ready to hear the truth and get why the government might be afraid of the public’s reaction to such an event.

This is especially strange because video evidence exists for many other rare & random totally unforeseen events. Someone driving on a highway just happened to record video of a Concorde on fire before crashing back in 2000 with a handheld camcorder. At least 3 separate dashcams captured video of the Chelyabinsk meteor entering the atmosphere from different angles in 2013. The odds are that someone, at some point during the past 50 years, should have recorded clear video evidence of a UFO, even if UFO events are extremely rare.

I have no reason to doubt some of the landmark UFO cases like Socorro or Japan Airlines flight 1628, because the physical evidence and eyewitness accounts from highly experienced people speak for themselves. But it just happens that nobody has seemingly ever had a camera on hand when they've had a close encounter with something unexplainable. If the Socorro UFO case happened again today, there would be plenty of time for the police officer to record video of the UFO lifting off and flying away with his smartphone camera. Japan Airlines flight 1628 pilots could record video of the massive walnut-shaped UFO mothership they described flying near their 747.

Just a single video like this could change UFOlogy forever. Instead of having to rely on other people describing what happened, anyone could simply press play and see the unexplainable happen for themselves. Skeptics would be at a loss and the public perception of the paranormal would shift. But no smoking gun evidence like this has ever emerged, even after decades of sightings backed up by multiple reliable eyewitnesses, radar data and physical evidence on the landing site.

My personal belief is that UFOs purposefully avoid leaving any photographic evidence of their existence. They want to remain a mystery that doesn't have any indisputable concrete proof, requiring believers to rely on stories and second hand evidence instead of seeing the phenomenon play back on video. I believe this is a central part of why UFOs exist and why they haven't landed on the White House lawn. They interfere and poke around to cause a reaction, but never publicly reveal themselves so their existence doesn't become an obvious fact of life to us.

This post is on-topic because UFOs have been seen in connection with the creation of crop circles. And if UFOs create crop circles then it is a Close Encounter of the Second Kind and should be treated as trace evidence left by the craft.Let me preface this by saying that I used to be a purely "nuts and bolts" ufo person and I was skeptical of crop circles and thought they were all hoaxes until looking deeper into the phenomenon. It always seemed stupid to me that another civilization would travel millions of lightyears to desecrate and destroy our food supply with their interstellar graffiti.With that said, please stick with me and try to keep an open mind. Even if this post is all wrong and wild speculation, I'll try to present evidence and it will at least be interesting and thought provoking. I think I just came up with a never-before presented theory that I will explain at the end of this post. If you're pressed for time, you can just read the bold.

In this post I will explore crop circles and their potential connection to UFOs, and if they are indeed being produced by UFOs I will provide my own theory for why they might be creating them.

This post will consist of 3 parts:

1. Present both sides of a famous crop circle video that includes UFOs.
2. Present evidence that crop circles are indeed anomalous and inexplicable or at least interesting and worthy of further investigation.
3. My crazy speculation about how they might be formed and more importantly, why?------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Part 1- Oliver's Castle UFO Crop Circle video

I encourage everyone to look at both sides of this case and think for yourself and make up your own mind.

Links-https://www.cropcirclesandmore.com/thoughts/201105aoc.html

Debunking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMeRd5EdBwE

Debunking OF the debunking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-xFExjbDj4

ATS thread https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread826688/pg1

https://www.cropcirclesecrets.org/cpr_ocfinal.html

19 Separate Reports of a UFO on the same night which caused an intertwined circular crop circle. Interview with first hand witnesseshttps://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/pq6a6j/this_case_is_unsolved_till_today_multiple_ufo/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

----------------------------------------------------------------------------Part 2- Examination of the anomalous evidence

TLDR: Many of the most interesting crop circles have interwoven stalks that would take too long to weave by hand, bent or melted elongated stalks that might be evidence of heat and/or microwave radiation, scorched seed heads, increased crop yields in subsequent years in the same pattern, and bugs, slugs, insects and pests frozen or glued to the stalks as if they were melted or killed instantly. The bugs are found only within the formation and not outside the crop circle.

https://cropcirclesresearchfoundation.org/crop-circle-research-the-road-ahead/

https://www.mondenouveau.fr/enigmes-les-crop-circles-partie-2/ (Use google translate or just look at the picture of dead flies glued to crops in (1.))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mowing-Devil Possible historical crop circle case from year 1678

https://www.nhn.ou.edu/~johnson/Education/Capstone/Ethics/Presentations/2003-CropCircles-CurtisBrooks.pdf Page 5 Natural Mircowave Energy Theory only explains plant irregularities, but not formations. Page 8 shows electrical anomolies in the seeds and plants

http://www.cmsim.eu/papers_pdf/april_2012_papers/3_CMSIM_2012_Krasnoholovets-Gandzha_2_323-335.pdf This paper is more in depth and serious. It suggests a different natural hypothesis and talks about interesting magnetic properties in the plants and suggests plasma vortices.

So to recap, the crop circles kill bugs and dramatically increase crop yields in the same pattern as the crop circle in subsequent harvests. How is this possible? (especially if they're hoaxes made by hand or by guys with boards walking on the field)

_____________________________________________________Part 3- Pure speculation created by me. (feedback and criticism welcome)

The answer to how it's possible may also be an answer to why crop circles are being left. It could be a way to teach us how to use sound as fertilizer and as a pesticide to protect our food without the negative effects of traditional pesticides on humans and the environment. Chemical pesticides have adverse effects on humans and they also get into the ground water and/or eventually end up in the ocean. They are extremely bad for out environment and our biosphere. Stick with me for more evidence...

> "Sound is acoustic energy in an oscillatory pressure wave transmitted through gases, liquids, and solids. Like other physical environmental factors such as moisture, light, wind, and temperature, it can have a physiological effect on plant growth and other metabolic processes, or at a molecular level-triggered within a plant cell upon stimulation by sound vibrations. The evidence emerging from biological studies on plants’ response to sound waves indicates that plants are susceptible organisms that generate and react to sound signals from their environment (Mishra et al.,2016). We now believe that plants can indeed benefit from sound through their mechanosensory machinery. Many studies have already demonstrated sound-induced phenotypic changes and possible sound signaling pathways in model and crop plants (Jung et al., 2018).> Recent studies show that sound wave technology has recently been applied to plants at various physiological growth stages, e.g., seed germination, callus growth, endogenous hormones, photosynthesis mechanism, and transcription of specific genes. The sound stimulation could enhance disease resistance and decrease chemical fertilizers and biocides (Zhang 2012)."

> "The studies proved the effective action of sound waves over seed germination, the activity of the root system, the number of flowers and fruit and disease resistance. They also proved positive effects on permeability of the cell membrane, mRNA expression and chlorophyll content in the leaves and stem.With more frequency, scientific publications show experiments developed by exposing different species of plants to different frequencies, which have generated responses in observable changes in structure, growth, and production, some of these studies we have compiled in Table 1."https://harvestharmonics.com/2021/03/18/effects-of-sound-waves-in-plants/

Here's a reproducible experiment anyone can try with rice- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvShgttIq7I

You can also do it with plants too- https://globalnews.ca/news/4217594/bully-a-plant-ikea/

Could UFOs be showing us how to care for and protect our food with thoughts/sounds rather than chemicals?

Keep in mind that according to Lu Elizondo and the Italian officials from Unidentified (Roberto Pinotti and Clarbruno Vedruccio) say that UFOs can be summoned by specific frequencies. Similar claims have been made by Kevin Day and UAPX.

This brings me to an even more woo theory which is that crop circles could be the visible depiction of an alien language which might be the way dolphins communicate too. Think about the alien squid projections from Arrival, only it's with sound instead of tentacle ink.Here's a video about using AI to try to break complex Dolphin communication into words and phrases, but we don't know how the sounds are categorized or how information is encoded. Is there order, grammar, structure or rules? We're working on deciphering the structure and order to figure out their language. Captive dolphins have limited vocabulary so the goal is full 2-way communication in the wild. https://youtu.be/XlTn5V9e9OY?t=295 5:00

(Not just the CIA/NASA giving handjobs to suicidal dolphins while trying to teach them English on LSD. https://www.ranker.com/list/margaret-howe-lovatt-dolphin-experiment/laura-allan)

TedX Talk if you're interested in diving deeper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ5dRyyHwfM

I have a speculative theory about how information is encoded in their language. If you've seen Arrival, you'll know about aquatic aliens projecting their language visually using ink in a circle. I think the same thing might be happening with sound, and crop circles might be a visual representation of these characters.

We might be failing to decode Dolphin language because we are only looking at the sounds themselves, and not the information decoded within. Think of it as a dolphin making their unique whistle which then projects their name or identity in the form of a visual image of their retna/fingerprint/name all in the form of a picture encoded in sound. http://www.speakdolphin.com/researchItems.cfm?ID=6 Please check out this link for some cool pictures of what looks like complex tree rings in sound waves that travel roughly 5 miles underwater.Supporting link http://www.speakdolphin.com/researchItems.cfm?ID=6

The same way that a word uses letters to depict an auditory sound, a crop circle might be a pictograph depicting an auditory sound with a given attributed meaning. If you google "crop circle" and search images, 90% of the results are circles with geometric patterns within them. Of these results, maybe roughly ten percent are "real" crop circles that should be studied for containing possible meaning or at least frequencies based on the science of CymaGlyphs.

If it's true that some of these crop circles do indeed represent specific frequencies, it could have extremely profound results including a way to identify cancerous cells or the key to a frequency that would cure to cancer with ELF treatments. https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/nsa-rdp96x00790r000100030007-8

Background on Cymatics- https://rubinmuseum.org/spiral/cymatics-sound-science-of-the-future"Today the science of visible sound—now termed cymatics, after Jenny’s work—offers insights into many fields of science, from astrophysics to zoology and almost every discipline in between."Here are examples of CymaScope returns from various frequencies. If these are indeed a language, they could be slightly simplified the way traditional chinese was streamlined into simplified chinese. https://mattninceramics.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/cymatics.jpg?w=600

If they are NOT a representation of specific frequencies, they may be the intergalactic equivalent of a dictionary pronunciation key. How would you convey your native language to an alien species that doesn't know your alphabet? Well if they have science and understand Cymatics then they should be able to decipher the sounds and meanings using a Cymagraph or CymaScope. If that sounds far-fetched... here are the Cymagraph depictions of human vowel sounds to demonstrate that it's possible- https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p-vneqZE-Gc/maxresdefault.jpg and according to this image it also contains our DNA

Please compare this image of Cymatics... https://blog.ambient-mixer.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/cymatic-water-patterns.jpegAnd compare that with this illustrated image of crop circles https://www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/6945/

Biocymatics may be the key to understanding life https://www.conformon.net/2017/09/10/biocymatics-as-the-key-to-understanding-life/"Since all the cells in our body generate oscillations and sounds, the implications for this new investigative tool in medical science are profound."Depiction of a healthy cell vs a cancerous cell using a Cymascope https://www.gaia.com/article/cymatic-imaging-could-help-surgeons-identify-cancer-cells

So these visual representations could either be a complex language more advanced than our own, or they could be a universal tonal key and a way to teach pronunciation basics to foreign species. Like humans attempting to teach Koko the gorilla sign language. It could also be a purely tonal language if communication is possible through music like in the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind http://collectivepsyche.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/cymatics.jpeg I personally hope that they are a phonetic alphabet that can somehow be decoded and deciphered with AI.

Hopefully this post was interesting and informative. If it sounded like crazy woo woo bs, I totally understand. But keep in mind that radical ideas and outlandish hypothesis testing are all part of the scientific method. If you think crop circles are all hoaxes I'd love to hear what you think explains the dead bugs glued to the stalks, the bent nodes that are elongated and melted without being broken, exploded nodes from heat, and increased crop yields. I hope we can all have a polite and constructive discussion about the science surrounding this topic in the comments below.“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”~ Nikola Tesla

Okay first of all I am a frequent reddit user (everyday) and this is one of my most visited subreddits. I am well aware that this topic has been discussed before in here, but I’ve always felt like these discussions generally occur in the middle of a thread on a different topic.

I have always believed that UFOs are a combination of both extraterrestrial craft and also secret military craft. That being said, I am now starting to believe that this combination is not extraterrestrial and military craft, but rather military craft and crafts from an advanced underwater civilization that has always existed on Earth.

Here are some of the main reasons in reaching this conclusion:

(1): 98% of our oceans remain unexplored (I’m not a scientist so correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s the number I have heard). There is simply SO much life, whether advanced or primitive, that we do not know about and lies in the bottom of these waters of our own planet. Who is to say, definitively, that a more advanced species than our own may have developed in these unexplored parts of the ocean?

(2): It would make sense that an advanced species at the bottom of our oceans would eventually want to explore the rest of the planet they live on, including the parts above the water, if they developed the capability to do so. I am aware that trying to compare our own human compulsions to that of a different species can be troublesome, but I do believe that curiosity and exploration is a logical compulsion that would develop in most species; look at a house cat for example whom always want to explore every nook of a new surrounding. Curiosity and exploration serve a biological explanation as well; it is helpful for a species to know what threats may lie in their surroundings or where a good place to hide may be. Furthermore this species may be running out of resources, overpopulated, etc and therefore feel a need to explore the world above the ocean. Any number of reasons exist.

(3): Many claim that the technology behind some UFO movements can not possibly be from this Earth. I find that ridiculous; in less than 150 years we have gone from horse and buggy as the fastest way of travel to having planes in the sky traveling faster than the speed of sound. I mean look at a smartphone.. we literally can discover nearly anything we want within a 3 minute google search from anywhere we are. You truly think that people would have not said “that’s impossible” only 150 years ago? My point is that let’s imagine this advanced underwater species got ONLY a 150 year “head start” on humans and advanced at the same rate (hypothetically). Is it that crazy they would now have this technology? Is it that crazy we really won’t have this technology in only 150 years time?

(4): One of the main issues I’ve had with UFOs as extraterrestrials is that their actions do not make much sense for a species that had traveled so far throughout space. If it was to takeover the planet, okay sure makes sense. But they haven’t? And if they can do what they have been doing, then they can clearly take over the planet with relative ease. So that must not be their goal. To mine the planet for resources? Again, I haven’t seen much evidence of any resource mining from these UFOs and, again, if they can do what they have been shown to do then this resource mining would be easy if that was the goal. So it’s not. Finally, UFOs are most often spotted as only a single craft rather than a large fleet.. this too makes little sense to me. If you wanted to send a craft across the vast regions of space to Earth, this mission must clearly be important. But yet, with all the dangers of space, you’re going to only send ONE craft at a time for this obviously important mission? However, if these UFOs are not coming across the vast regions of space, but rather from our own oceans at a FAR lesser distance, these concerns with the idea of extraterrestrial UFOs are much more easily explained.

(5): UFOs are often spotted at nuclear facilities or during nuclear missile tests. Why would an extraterrestrial species really care that much about some planet they do not live on, have no history with, and is populated by a bunch of war-mongers destroying their own planet with their selfish desires? They wouldn’t. However, if the species piloting these craft shares the planet with us, and is also from this planet, a nuclear Armageddon would assuredly affect their home and way of life as well. Not to mention that many nuclear bombs were often deployed near or directly above water during testing of these weapons. I consider this one of the stronger arguments for an underwater advanced species being responsible for UFOs.

(6): The large number of witnesses (including those from the Nimitz encounter) who have reported UFOs either hovering above the water or actually entering the water and submerging.

Please let me know what you think about any or all of these points or if you have anything else to share! Don’t be rude please. Cheers!

It baffles my brain to think what these inter dimensional craft and occupants could be after. Surely if they have such advanced tech then all their needs would be satisfied to the max. It just baffles me to why they are even here unless it’s for fun like a vacation?

Ideas?

Many UFO films taken show lights on a supposed spacecrafts. Why would aliens need lights on a spacecraft? If you can travel millions of light years, do you really need headlights?

Can anyone recommend some good resources (whether they're videos, documentaries, books, or PDFs) on zero-point energy, UFO propulsion mechanisms, the manipulation of space-time, etc.?

I’m wondering if the UFO would react being aimed by a laser pointer? Oh and if you’re going to do this please make sure it’s an actual UFO (example Flying saucer) and not some sort of helicopter or airplane because that’s a serious crime.

I have been climate concerned for many years now, even getting involved in various climate activism activities. It’s something that has occupied my mind for most of the day for years. To the point of eco-depression and a doom mentality. When I slowly became more convinced that UFOs/aliens do exist, my first raw reaction was to think “we might be saved”, they’re here to warn us and wake people up about the damage we are doing to the planet. This emotion definitely hit while listening to the school kids from Ariel school in Zimbabwe. The message the kids say they received telepathically about harming the planet with our pursuit of technological advancement really rang true for me. (Also kids in Zimbabwe in 1994 will not have been aware of this, as discussed by John Mack at the time).

The unfortunate side effect of technological advancement fuelled by capitalism and fossil fuels is unfortunate nature loss, resource extraction, carbon emissions, pollution, ocean acidification and biodiversity loss/extermination. Exponential growth on a finite planet does not work.

I listened carefully to David Grusch’s interview. The word “agreement” (between the US Govt and the NHI) stuck with me. What could such an agreement be. Could there be a link to the survivability of the planet? What exactly did “we” agree to? One thought (among many) is they agreed to give us a fair crack at capitalism and technological advancement, but if Earth got too warm and polluted, then we relinquish our dominion over the planet?

The reality is we have had the hottest 7 days in the last 100,000 years in the last week. We are currently blowing through the 1.5c limit (after which we know extreme weather events will occur as we leave the human safe zone). (1.5c+ is considered very dangerous). This may have happened already this summer, but will certainly happen in the next few years (decade if we are lucky).

Our idea of economic growth is not sustainable. We will cause our own extinction if we continue as we are, without slamming on the brakes immediately (degrowth, ending all fossil fuels). Is it a coincidence that NHI seems to be showing up now, whether the governments want disclosure to happen or not?

The hopeful scenario is that they show us the way out of this situation quickly, guided by their wisdom and technology. The worst case could be ending humanity before we do it anyway.

Hear me out for a sec..

After your good ol' president tweeted the high res surveillance picture that was far above what other countries can currently take, as well as the SR-71 blackbird being a thing in 1966. What's to stop all these sightings simply being extremely secretive, blackbook project whateveryoucallems, of which only a select few people know about?

I'd love it to be aliens just as much as you, but the US has had over half a c e n t u r y to improve and create far superior aircraft to that of the SR and hell, even more time if you look at things like the X-15, which all the way back in 1959 achieved a top speed of four and a half fucking thousand miles an hour.. Like damn even I can't run that fast (and I'm pretty fast).

Mate fifty years is a long ass time even for an alien ordinary person like me, things advance a lot in that time, especially when they have unlimited funding and top secrecy.

Anyway that's just my thoughts, as boring as they may be. What do you think about it? I'd love to hear some perspectives that I haven't thought of.

Thanks!

The 3 possible explanations for UFO sightings: 

1) Extraterrestrial beings are visiting the planet in these unusual aircrafts that defy the laws of physics. 

2) These aircrafts are made by somebody/people of this Earth. In which case, they have been hiding this groundbreaking technology from us for over 50 years, whilst also showing them off all over the world for everybody to see. 

3) UFOs are just an unexplainable phenomenon, and are not actually aircrafts and aren't made by any sort of being. 

After months and months of UFO research these are the only possible explanations as far as I am aware. Just remember that some of these aircrafts can travel up to speeds of 13 miles in less than a second. The human anatomy couldn't withstand such forces, especially considering some of them come to a dead stop. Or maybe they don't have anybody in any of them?! It just seems very unlikely that somebody of this planet is hiding such groundbreaking technology that does literally defy the laws of physics, but at the same time, for the past 50+ years, they have been showing them for the whole world to see and wonder about. 

Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated. 

Thank you :)

Just to reframe this issue in a different light. I do not think UFOS are from this planet or any other. What they are is a manifestation of a higher consciousness that are concerned with specific aspects of creation and its development but not contained to a single universe either.

A massive database records everything that has ever existed and is used to seed new universes with new combinations of form and intelligence.

If revealing the existence of the AATIP program is really the start of a disclosure of what the government knows about UFOs, One is entitled to ask: So, why now?

If they have been withholding really important information right along, minimizing and denying the significance of the phenomenon, why should they want to start doing differently, at just this point in time?

This doesn't seem to just be Luis Elizondo becoming dissatisfied with the way the AATIP was handling whatever it's found out. He was allowed to publish the information, with even more in prospect. The Pentagon even acknowledged the existence of the program, and Mr. Elizondo's leadership of it.

I've long suspected that the government's treatment of the UFO situation would remain the same as it has been for decades, unless something happened to change this status quo.

So, assuming all the above makes sense, what has happened, what has changed?

I'm a believer in the UFO phenomenon, but I struggle to with the idea that UFOs have crash landed on the planet. Think about it - how would a higher intelligence or alien race that is capable of interstellar/ inter dimensional travel come all this way in super-advanced craft only to have them malfunction and crash whilst whizzing round earth? I think that the chances of that are so unbelievably low.

I also call bullshit on the idea of alien materials being left behind, too. A craft operating with such precision and flight capabilities of something like the Nimitz Tic Tacs would not accidentally leave trace behind.

Anyone had similar thoughts on this?

The last weeks I saw, heard and read about everything I could find regarding the latest stories on the leaked navy-videos, Bob Lazar, the Ruwa (Simbabwe)-Incident and some other stuff. The more I think about it the more a simple idea is growing in me.

Remember the testimony of US Navy pilot commander David Fravor? Not the tic tac video itself, but his eye witness, what he actually saw, what’s not in the video.

Not only did the ufo know where his next rendezvous point was, before he even knew - it vanished to this point (60 miles away) in seconds. Before all that the ufo was somehow connecting with the sea and he had the feeling as if there was something under it, what he couldn’t see or capture.

That’s how my idea grew:

What if they actually try to lower our sea levels to provide us from being flooded by global warming?

Bullshit idea? Don’t know. Think about it - they are unbelievably fast. They could suck in some water and drop it of somewhere else in under a second, maybe even on another planet, then come back and repeat it over and over again.

The navy detected the object several days before at the same location over and over again. Why?

It’s just an idea, but scientists confirmed lately that the sea levels do not rise as fast as it is expected. But the ice on the poles are melting extremely fast. A contradiction.

Why should they help? Why not? They are extremely advanced - the technology is unimaginable. They could have wiped us out many decades ago but didn’t. They didn’t harm one child in the ruwa-incident.

They might help us. What do you think? Maybe they do even more for saving our planet but we don’t recognize...

Update:

1. I learned, that my theorie actually is not new. So sorry for that.

2. I never said they are extraterrestrials. There are more theories about them that would also make sense. I am just referring to the videos and eye witnesses of the craft’s behaviors themselves.

To disclose what UFO’s are and what’s behind them? This way people won’t be as panicked because we will already have similar technology.

I have a lot of theories on the phenomenon to say the least. I mainly lean toward they have bases within earth and under the oceans. Though I also think there could be numerous explanations simultaneously. Maybe we are being visited by three different species, or maybe it's 300. Maybe they are drones left over from an advanced civilization that was here long ago. I have to say when Bigelow said it's like they're right under our noses that made me feel like he's trying to give us a pretty obvious hint. The hint being they have been coexisting with us for a long long time and they have habitats under our oceans and elsewhere alike. I find that constructive conversation of ideas helps to provoke thought and I find it very useful in regards to navigating the million ideas within my own head. I have been obsessed with this issue for as long as I can remember. It absolutely drives me mad to know that there are people who get to know the truth yet it stays hidden from us as if we are toddlers. I think there is a very good chance most of those informed don't even know the whole truth and nothing but. However, the fact of the matter is that they know more than us. Not fair my friends, not fair one bit. I'm sure many of you have felt the same frustration as I. So without further ado, please tell me your opinions. Where do you think they're from? Why don't they make themselves formerly known? (Please don't give me the we are ants to them b.s.). Do you think the majority of sightings are vehicles with occupants or drones? More than anything I want to hear people's opinions on them having bases here, or if you think their true civilization is actually here and hidden. C'mon people please take the time to lend me your mind. Thank you.

Just watched the Fravor podcast. Fravor describes a disturbance underneath the water the size of an airplane and cross shaped. He notes that after tic tac leaves the area, the disturbance as well as the shape underneath the water vanishes.

Anyone have some thoughts as to what was underneath the water?

Last week, I was driving through the Arizona desert, east of Yuma, and saw a pair of falling flares. They were right next to each other, had a very “warm” golden glow, and I could see their trail of smoke pretty clearly. They didn't fall straight down, their path was more wiggly. I was confused by it at first, the sizes of the light made me think that it was a helicopter with some special light on it at first, but then I saw the smoke and put 2 and 2 together.

It made me think of the Phoenix Lights sighting, and how it’s usually explained away as flares. What is r/UFOs opinion?

Technological advancement does not always equate to safety.

The original velocipedes (earliest bicycles) crashed sometimes; the newest electric bicycles with lithium ion batteries crash sometimes.

The original Model T broke down sometimes; advanced hybrid cars break down sometimes; pure electric cars breakdown sometimes.

The original Wright Brothers aircraft crashed sometimes; modern jetliners crash sometimes.

The first rocket launches sometimes failed and now seventy plus years later rocket launches fail.

When you get more advanced you face a whole new range of issues and problems that need to be overcame. And with any new technology there are always weaknesses that can only be improved to a certain degree.

UFO technology is no different. I'm sure that with all the advantages of a craft that manipulate gravity, inertia, and mass there are some drawbacks.

Jet liners can still have major issues if flying ducks get caught up in their engines. Some saucer type UFOs seem to have problems with high powered radar.