Hi everyone,

I don't usually like to get involved in the fake/real conversations, but this time I have something to offer and wanted to give my perspective. A bit about my background: I have a PhD in a molecular biology field. My PhD research was on steroid hormone biosynthesis and cell signaling. I've also worked at one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world as a research scientist in immunology. I have two masters degrees: one in biology and the other in regulatory sciences. My biology masters research was on a genetics project. I have a bachelor's of science in biology. I also have too much time on my hands because I'm between jobs. (I'm happy to verify all of this with mods if necessary).

To anyone outside the field, the EBO Scientist's claims look like they are thoroughly backed up by bringing in research methodologies and claims. But in the details there are many contradictory statements and things that don't make sense. I only felt compelled to make this post because I see the EBO story spreading like wildfire. I saw people talking about it on YouTube. Unlike most grainy videos of UAPs, this is something that can be debunked and I feel bad about not sharing my concerns.

First, OP said that there are many genes whose role hasn't been identified. But soon after says post translational modifications are needed to make the functional protein. If we don't know about the role of the protein in a cell signaling pathway, we wouldn't know what PTMs are needed for it to be functional. There are numerous examples of proteins with various PTMs that can be had. Proteins can be cleaved. We wouldn't know any of that based on what's available. Moreover, if we don't know what the gene is, we can't determine which might be protein coding genes, regulatory genes, promoter regions, introns, exons, etc. It would be an exotic code never before seen, never expressed in it's intended tissue, in experiment in a lab.

Next, it doesn't make sense only one individual genome sequenced. Sequencing is now fast, easy, and cheap. Moreover, it's not disturbing and not surprising that the a gene from our biosphere would have homology (copy/paste). Slight variations in the code might exist in any gene in any of us. So OP saying "it was copied and pasted" is irrelevant. Copied and pasted from a reference genome? There is no standard reference genome in this manner. There are numerous polymorphisms in the code. Why would a homologous gene matching one of those alleles be scary and unsettling? None of my colleagues would say this is unsettling in any way. I think that was designed to scare someone unfamiliar with this work.

The entire section on transfections lacked conceptual logic. OP: [We needed to add growth receptor genes and other genes for it to grow in FBS]. Then how did you grow the wild type cells to set up a transfection in the first place? You would have needed to grow up a population of cells to experiment on. Also, based on what OP said about the creation of an immortalized cell line from the epithelial cells would not be possible based on contradictory statements on the conditions needed for them to grow. The techniques to do create an immortalized cell line would kill the exotic cells, based on previous claims. That whole section was science fiction from the start and I could go even further than this.

Also if the goal of project was to understand neurological cell signaling that allows them to telepathically use their technology. A cell line derived from epithelial tissues wouldn't allow you to do this. To oversimplify a lot, that's like studying your arm to understand how your brain works. It's not going to translate.

About the endocrine system section: OP said the knowledge of the endocrine system is minimal and best studied in living subjects. Everything is best studied in living subjects, but we manage. This section was lacking details that were essentially described in other sections. They said in another section "hormone levels are much lower," "glucose levels significantly higher." These are good leads for gathering info about the endocrine system. Moreover, there is still a lot we can gather from a body and blood samples. With this we would be able to determine a lot about the endocrine system. What endocrine glands have been identified? What hormones are present in blood levels? Are steroid hormones present? Where are the hormones being synthesized? The blood and tissue samples are sufficient to determine this.

A note about the artificial system: how did this get hypothesized? High levels of copper isn't sufficient to jump to that hypothesis. A strong research group would see the high levels of copper and follow up with "why?" Then experiment and follow that finding up with "why?" Etc. A hypothesis of molecular machines would be based on more than finding high copper levels. The explanation makes no sense from a research perspective.

Another note. Every UAPs/alien project is so compartmentalized, and I would imagine the biological research would be the same. The strongest leaks have been from one person who worked on one thing and could only speculate what happens in adjacent areas. I don't understand why OP, as the lowest level scientist in this lab, would be brought up to speed on alien culture, technology, the neuroscience component, the metabolites, etc. Every section has so much depth and I do not believe they had a hand in every section they've discussed, so why would they know about it if it wasn't need to know? If OP is real, it would be different from other real leak in that it has a lot of information that is typically compartmentalized between different job descriptions. I'd even go as far as to ask why OP was even aware of what the project is even about? In reality, a real low level EBO scientist would be given a sample and told "run this assay," "treat these cells," and "get me the data" by their superior. When I worked in the pharmaceutical industry it was like this on most projects. This is the largest secret on Earth, and I have doubts that they would allow every low level scientist to be so deeply knowledgeable about all of these areas.

There's so much more. I could keep tearing at this thing for days. I'm happy to answer questions and have a discussion. I'm always the guy that watches a UAP video and says it's real, except when it looks super shitty and fake. I lean towards the 4chan leaker being real. But this time, this is not it. If OP was real, they need to go back to grad school to improve their understanding of these concepts and methodologies, or improve their scientific communication abilities.

From Congressional Field Office-OMPR c/o Rick Doty

OP created these VFX shots himself and manually edited the date to make it seem like it was uploaded in the 90s. Also extremely suspicious how he has a brand new account as well and why the sudden influx of people joining the sub during upload.

Something does not add up here.

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Recently, Tom Delonge's movie Monsters of California showed a document regarding Project Grill Flame (see third image). Project Grill Flame was a CIA project focused on remote viewing.

Now, on Weaponized, Corbell and Knapp are talking about Project Grill Flame as well and about remote viewing. While Project Grill Flame could train people to perform remote viewing, the CIA often focused on recruiting "natural" psychics.

Just yesterday, someone posted an interesting interview with Preston Dennett who covers a lot of UFO trends and does a lot of case studies. One trend that Preston Dennett found is that, as strange as it sounds, people who interact with UFOs often report having psychic-like abilities that arise from their interaction with UFOs - including out of body experiences and remote viewing.

While this sounds totally bananas, the same thing is hinted at in Tom Delonge's Sekret Machine books. They talk about people who are able to remote view, who can pilot alien crafts with their minds/consciousness, and this idea that interaction with UFOs causes this odd after effect.

All of this hints at, as crazy as it sounds, that remote viewing is real, that interactions with UFOs can open up certain psy-like abilities, and that the government is aware of this link.

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There have been some crazy allegations made by remote viewers that I think need to be mentioned as well.

One would be the claims made by Pat Price (who is mentioned in passing in the latest Weaponized episode) - a remote viewer who claimed that he saw a large underground pyramid/base in Alaska beneath Mount Hayes where he claimed to see humans and aliens working together on the object. He died soon shortly after reporting this incident. David Grusch has said that people have been killed to keep this secret. Tom Delonge has also said quite openly that there is an dark pyramid in Alaska and that it is suppressing human consciousness.

Another really crazy remote viewing claim has to do with our origins. One well regarded remote viewer was tasked (without being told beforehand) to remote view Mars a million years ago. The remote viewer, who did not know he was remote viewing Mars or the time, said he saw a large pyramid, tall beings, a craft, and that the beings were trying to escape to another planet that had a great deal of storms. It's suggested by Corbell and Knapp that the other planet they are escaping to is earth.

Finally, another odd coincidence that keeps coming up is the idea of the Source or Absolute. In the Stargate Project documents and in a lot of remote viewing material, remote viewers talk about this intelligence that has a vast amount of information. This is talked about in Weaponized, but it's also mentioned in CIA documents. Robert Monroe also discusses in his books about Out of Body Experiences.

Perhaps this is also the reason why the government doesn't want to discuss this. The idea that human beings can remote view, leave their bodies, get access to information that can be extremely dangerous, etc. would not exactly lead to tons of stability in society.

TLDR: Project Grill Flame was a CIA project focused on remote viewing. A lot of ufologists are hinting that remote viewing/out of body experiences have an important role to play in seeing UFOs. Based on recent information published by ufologist, there is some speculation that 1) remote viewing is actually possible/effective, 2) that interactions with UFOs seem to, as crazy as it sounds, open up the ability to perform psy-like abilities, and 3) again, as crazy as it sounds, one remote viewer claimed that a million years ago a race of beings lived on Mars and fled the planet. The planet they landed on is earth and the aliens who left are us.

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SS: I don't about you guys but after seeing a few recent posts about the Department of Energy, and doing some same basic research, it's starting to appear that they're definitely connected to UAPs in some shape or form.

The DOE was formed a few months after Jimmy Carter became president, and I don't want to get too conspiratorial, but we all know about the rumour that he was told the truth about UFOs and Aliens, something which apparently made him highly emotional for days. I'm now wondering if this so called truth that was told to him was twisted in such a way, as to get him create the DOE, which would then be used to coverup UAPs.

The first secretary of energy James R. Schlesinger, who was assigned to the DOE after it was formed seems to have a very colourful history, and might possibly have been the one who basically manipulated and influenced Carter to create the DOE and coverup UFOs. I mean you only have to read through his wikipedia page to find that he was likely one of the people in the know about UAPs.

• Schlesinger was a member of the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) under President Nixon
• Heavily involved in the Nuclear and Defence strategy of the U.S. over years.
  
• He was CIA Director from February 2, 1973, to July 2, 1973
• Impressed and helped Jimmy Carter during the presidential debate against sitting president and his old boss Gerald ford by revealing defence secrets about the defence budget.
• Assigned as the first Secretary of Energy by Jimmy Carter in 1997 after the formation of the DOE.
• Fired as Secretary of Defence under Ford and Secretary of Energy under Carter for insubordination.

https://twitter.com/tomangell/status/1613920943776174080?s=46&t=A3brkK_TcIiJ7Vu376s3kQ

They use the word “entities”. This is a very deliberate and specific use of the word. They don’t say “objects” they don’t say “phenomena”. This changes everything. Finally we have some official acknowledgement that these things are real. So maybe we can have an adult discussion about these topics in the future.

Previously there has been reveals about UAP which looked like squids. Dr Massimo Teodorani and other researchers have been looking into this phenomena for some time. The Hessdalen lights and Min Min lights have also been studied for decades and the scientists who worked on the papers believe these entities are sentient.

Here is a link to a study of this phenomena

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/feart.2016.00017/full

Here is a previous post I made here about atmospheric or plasmoid anomalies in our sky.

https://np.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/uwjiec/intelligent_plasma_life_forms_theory_and_uaps/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Obviously this is speculation. All this money we spend on SpaceX, blue origin, NASA ect seems like a waste. Imagine the progress we could make if UFO technology wasn't secret and compartmentalized as experts from different fields could collaborate. Pooling resources together would lead to greater progress and innovation. I wonder what Elon Musk would think if all his effort was wasted.

Sometimes the most inane details can lead one to the most profound Truths. So by all accounts these alien craft contain no bathroom, kitchen, sleeping quarters etc.. This leads to a number of possibilities or logical conclusions.

1) The craft make very short trips. So such things are not required.

2) The pilots are artificial biological entities and could even be short lived and disposable. When they have achieved their programmed goal. (Biological droids)

3) They are inter-dimensional and their primary dimension is not physical. So food etc.. is not required in the way our bodies are made of and require food.

So let's say that the alien equivalent of SETI is looking out across the stars, trying to figure out which ones are interesting enough to send your interstellar spaceships to first. Similar to Earth's SETI, you would start by looking for anomalous signals, signals that don't appear to be random noise but show intent.

Earth would look very interesting to the alien's SETI. Nuclear fission produces gamma rays, and gamma ray astronomy is already a thing. After WW2 and with the advent of nuclear bombs and nuclear fission reactors, suddenly Earth would've been sending out a ton of gamma rays.

If alien SETI were looking at us pre-WW2, and suddenly saw the spike in gamma rays, that alone might be interesting enough to check-out even if they weren't expecting to find intelligent life. But Earth's gamma rays would have detectable patterns to them, interesting waves of gamma ray bursts from series of nuclear weapon testing. It might even appear to be non-random.

If we think we were detected because of gamma rays, we can actually narrow down the potential locations that the aliens are from. The first nuclear reactor was December 2nd, 1942 and the first nuclear detonation was July 16, 1945. Gamma rays travel at the speed of light. There's an open question on when Earth would've become interesting to alien SETI, but let's assume that it happened sometime after 1942.

The next thing we need to figure out is when we think the first UFO incident was. For the sake of this explanation, let's assume it was around when WW2 pilots began reporting Foo Fighters in late 1944. The time between our first nuclear fission event and the first UFO incident becomes the range around Earth, in light years, that alien SETI must have been when they detected us.

In this example, that'd be a little over 3 light years. Alpha Centauri, our closest star system,is 4 light years away, but we also need to bear in mind that we're talking about a civilization that is presumably capable of interstellar travel, their detectors / ships with detectors could've been positioned away from their home system. I actually think this is likely as it would help filter out noise from their home system. In addition, if we assume their ships are capable of detecting gamma rays, there's the possibility that they started noticing Earth while in transit to other locations (imagine interstellar trade routes).

There's also an open question on why UFOs continue to visit nuclear fission sites even after discovering Earth. There's many different theories on this with intent ranging from peaceful or helpful to hostile, but the continuing interest in nuclear fission sites only makes me more certain that Earth was detected initially because of nuclear fission. If they're so interested in nuclear fission now, then Earth must have been an attractive destination to visit when they noticed gamma rays popping off.

Edit: I'm ignoring travel time here because we don't really know what speed UFOs are capable of.

Just watched episode 4. We have video of this. Eyewitness accounts, and the US government releasing these videos. Why would they release fake videos, only for us to find out the truth eventually?

"Lazar and Corbell go deep into the woods to discuss claims that Lazar made when he first went public: that he had managed to steal a piece of “element 115,” the then-undiscovered element that Lazar says fueled the reactors. The next day Lazar’s business was raided by the FBI"

It doesn't get any more obvious than this. If his business really was raided by the FBI, that means they are constantly monitoring him. If they are monitoring him, it's pretty clear that he was telling the truth about his experience. Can't wait to see the documentary.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-did-the-fbi-raid-the-home-of-the-biggest-alien-truther

TLDR is at the bottom

Since TTSA, Delonge, Elizondo, Unidentified came along, the ramping up of the threat narrative seems to be evidence that this new cycle is nothing but an orchestrated machination by the deep state.

Ever since WW2, the US government has an extremely worrying track record for beating the war drum at any perceived threat in order to sustain the necessity for the military industrial complex. Why would this phenomena be any different?

Humanity is at a make or break point in its development, on our current path it is unlikely the planet will cope with further abuse on its climate. The US government is therefore on course to be responsible for not mitigating this disaster because it chose focus on the threat or suppression of information over the investigation/introduction of world changing technologies.

Also, if this 'threat' does turn out to be alien, it is extremely likely that any defense efforts would be futile, and taking aggressive military action would be open up a Pandora's box of epic proportions.

Lots here so hope to discuss.

TLDR The US government has a track record of starting wars for profit. This new UFO cycle seems to be warming the populous up to a threat in the same way.

This makes the most sense to me that they’re actually coming from other dimensions (like the astral) or other realities rather than from outer space.

Part of the reason is because they tend to show up randomly and disappear randomly as well. Also when people have experiences with them they seem paranormal. Of course it does. Because you’re literally shifting to another dimension.

Also this sounds very similar to experiences with ghosts, Bigfoot, etc. they’re all shifting in and out of this reality (from the astral I think). Dead people aren’t actually dead. They’re just in another reality.

Another thing is how would these UFOs go far out in space? That would take billions of years. It makes sense that they’re interdimensional instead.

In an interview with Curt Jaimungal, (https://youtu.be/JM3kxeU_oDE) Ross Coulthart mentions an interview where Tom DeLongh talks of warring gods.

Any link to that interview?

Coulthart says the information was so outlandish he didn’t believe it then but in light of everything else Tom DeLongh has said and done since, his information requires attention.

This is a genuine question. Looking for reasonable answers.

Why would a UFO need lights? They travel in space, the majority of space is nothingness, nothing to reflect a light on.

But more importantly, why would a race of beings that have discovered the secrets of interstellar travel still use primitive objects like lights? Are lights or visibility devices not expected to get better as technology advances? Would an alien really need headlights on a UFO?

They have been observed and tracked to be able to:

• Fly continuously for 12 hours
• Travel underwater and then go airborne
• Tracked at near earth orbit
• Hover
• move from stationary to hypersonic (5 times the speed of sound) in a blink of eye
• Drop from 30,000ft to sea level in less than a second without any sonic booms.
• Have no visible means of propulsion or leave any jet trails.
• Have no airfoils

And this was over 10 years ago. Nothing since comes close to this. Why do folks still think they are ours?

The Nimitz incident for example shows that they have no real interest in human activity and simply get out the way until those pesky humans buzz off. They also don’t make any contact in a real way but also don’t seem overly concerned if they are seen either.

I just don’t get it. Any ideas?

It has been mentioned before, but the Government has done this several times in the past, where they intentionally seed disinformation or distractions. In this case, UFOs are suddenly largely discussed, and I feel it's "all part of the plan". So yes, I mean to say we're just pawns in a game.

Unlike a lot of folks in here that like to make big claims with no evidence, If you follow the money with where this AATIP program came about you start to realize that maybe something fishy is going on. Bigelow Airspace has had a hand in this program since near it's inception, and Bigelow already went in to this with a bias that 'Aliens visiting earth' are real. Lately with the contradictory information we've been receiving about Luis Elizondo's position within AATIP, Any reasonable person should be able to look at this and know something is off.

The ONLY seemingly legitimate story in all of this, if you trim TTSA out of the picture, is that there are credible professionals (NAVY Pilots) that did encounter UAPs, and there is definitely something there to look in to. But again, there are currently some huge controversies that led me to think "OK, maybe I became a little too excited about this UFO stuff, and because of that I've become easily susceptible to believing anything that comes out of Elizondo's mouth".

And before you come at me blindly insisting that TTSA was a god-send to mankind for their work, take a step back and try to look at this whole orchestration of events a little more objectively. If you really are wanting to learn the "Truth", then maybe sometimes during the journey for the truth, you will find yourself feeling disappointed at times, which is normal. This whole UFO subject is nothing new and has been going on since the 50's. If the government wanted to disclose anything, they would have done so. And if they suddenly feel that now is the right time, then maybe you should ask yourself "WHY" that is before getting too excited about the prospects. Any form of government disclosure, especially with this UFO topic, is performed with utmost meticulous planning and intention. Nothing ever happens by accident here, and if it does, they're well prepared to handle the outcomes.

What if UFO's seem to accelerate and stop so fast is because they are manipulating time/ space and just appear like that to us? They can observe us at a slow time scale in relative to themselves? They might be moving at a very comfortable speed to themselves and aren't experiencing the g's we think they are.

Just a thought I had.