r/tuesday This lady's not for turning Dec 02 '24

Semi-Weekly Discussion Thread - December 2, 2024

INTRODUCTION

/r/tuesday is a political discussion sub for the right side of the political spectrum - from the center to the traditional/standard right (but not alt-right!) However, we're going for a big tent approach and welcome anyone with nuanced and non-standard views. We encourage dissents and discourse as long as it is accompanied with facts and evidence and is done in good faith and in a polite and respectful manner.

PURPOSE OF THE DISCUSSION THREAD

Like in r/neoliberal and r/neoconnwo, you can talk about anything you want in the Discussion Thread. So, socialize with other people, talk about politics and conservatism, tell us about your day, shitpost or literally anything under the sun. In the DT, rules such as "stay on topic" and "no Shitposting/Memes/Politician-focused comments" don't apply.

It is my hope that we can foster a sense of community through the Discussion Thread.

IMAGE FLAIRS

r/Tuesday will reward image flairs to people who write an effort post or an OC text post on certain subjects. It could be about philosophy, politics, economics, etc... Available image flairs can be seen here. If you have any special requests for specific flairs, please message the mods!

The list of previous effort posts can be found here

Previous Discussion Thread

7 Upvotes

View all comments

Show parent comments

-4

u/Vagabond_Texan Left Visitor Dec 04 '24

Are they insane, or are they just responding naturally to how fucked our healthcare system is and no one seems interested in fixing it?

11

u/N0RedDays Liberal Conservative Dec 04 '24

They are insane. The brokenness of our healthcare system comes from Washington, not from insurance executives.

-2

u/Vagabond_Texan Left Visitor Dec 04 '24

Right. Washington, and not the insurance companies denying claims.

If it was revealed that the shooter lost a loved one because due to a denied claim, could you really blame him?

4

u/ReturnoftheTurd Right Visitor Dec 05 '24

It’s not as simple as “a claim was denied so healthcare is broke”. Newsflash, the inability to obtain medical care exists in every country that has universal healthcare too. They also deny claims. They tend to have extreme wait times in addition to this. Europe also has far more strict immigration standards which is a slightly indirect way of effectively denying medical care to people as well. On top of that, Europe straight up doesn’t even have access to certain top level services that only exist in the United States.

Healthcare is not actually that broken here. There’s just a flood of anecdotes that even when added up together don’t make a statistic. Thing is, I’m not out there ranting every single time my insurance and everyone’s insurance that I know just pays the bill without basically any effort or issues. Because why would we? But regardless of that, insurance companies still pay over a trillion dollars per year in claims. We still perform tens of millions of operations a year. And even where there are disparities, first, adjust for the definition differences before addressing it.