r/neoliberal NATO Nov 17 '24

Pollster Ann Selzer ending election polling, moving 'to other ventures and opportunities' News (US)

https://eu.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/2024/11/17/ann-selzer-conducts-iowa-poll-ending-election-polling-moving-to-other-opportunities/76334909007/
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u/PleaseGreaseTheL World Bank Nov 17 '24

They didn't. If you were watching early election day coverage, trump was interviewed (well, approached in public during the casting of his own ballot) and even he himself seemed not too sure or confident how the election was gonna go, and said something relating to how it couls go euther way if I remember correctly. Nobody thought it was gonna be an evisceration.

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u/DoTheThing_Again Nov 17 '24

In what world was this an evisceration? The election was close. Just like everyone other one where obama was not on the ballot

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u/PleaseGreaseTheL World Bank Nov 17 '24

My brother in christ if you don't think this was a horrible election you haven't paid attention, in many states this was nothing near close and we lost ground in ways we never thought possible; we lost the popular vote for, what, the second time this century so far? And had a worse electoral college defeat than in 2016, which we had won the popular vote in. GOP has a trifecta now as well.

This was a horrible election.

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u/FriendsSuggestReddit Nov 17 '24

150 million votes and Harris lost by less than 3 million.

It was much closer than you’re framing it to be.

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u/CarpeDiemMaybe Esther Duflo Nov 17 '24

Was it that close? I thought it was a landslide

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u/ManicMarine Karl Popper Nov 17 '24

Trump won the PV by 1.5% and the tipping point state by a little over 2%. That's quite close by historical & international standards, it's just that our concept of close elections is all messed up because we have had so many ultra close ones recently (2000, 2016, 2020).