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Trump Team Weighs Options, Including Airstrikes, to Stop Iran’s Nuclear Program News Article

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-iran-plan-nuclear-weapons-def26f1d
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u/Sabertooth767 Neoclassical Liberal 25d ago

Why not? Israel proved you can strike Iranian nuclear facilities and Iran can't do shit about it.

I've grown weary over the fearmongering by the Democrats. The nuclear deal is moronic and has only enabled Tehran. They are completely and utterly incapable of waging a war against the United States. They can't even touch Israel!

I'm not saying that we necessarily should use military force against Iran, let alone invade, but to take it off the table is foolish.

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u/Remarkable-Medium275 25d ago

I have absolutely no complaints about being hawkish on Iran. My complaints is the isolationist rhetoric about Ukraine, only for him to be a standard hawk on everyone else.

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u/Davec433 25d ago

The difference with Ukraine is they’re not our ally and Russia isn’t threatening us.

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u/BigfootTundra 25d ago

Ukraine is not our ally? We convinced them to get rid of their nukes because we’d protect them. If that’s not an ally I don’t know what you think the word “ally” means.

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u/WulfTheSaxon 24d ago edited 24d ago

Promising to protect each other is indeed what defines being allies, but the US never promised to protect Ukraine. The promise, such as it existed (as an unratified commitment by the Clinton administration binding only on itself), was for the US to not invade Ukraine itself, and to refer the matter to the UNSC if Ukraine was attacked with nuclear weapons (where Russia would promptly veto any response).

Neither of those things was even a new commitment, because the Memorandum was specifically written to not create any new obligations that the US didn’t already have under the UN Charter and other international law. So the US isn’t any more committed to protecting Ukraine than any other UN member.