While everyone was at parents for holidays, my nephew asked what the 'F' word on a cup meant
The cup had a joke that said, 'oh no, not the F word!!' and then you spin it around and it says Forty
Family is super christians and instead of my sister in law just explaining it by saying, 'oh people stress about growing old, so seeing 'forty' on your fortieth birthday can be a way of poking fun at that,' she instead says 'I don't want you knowing what the F word is'
Like, he is five, he doesn't know what the F word is and has no context for it. Now instead of just taking the power away of even wondering what that thing you don't want him to know is by just giving a context for the joke, you've literally told him that there is an F word lol.
Kids don't know jack shit, you can explain your way around any manner of things you feel aren't appropriate for them to understand yet instead of giving power to the shit you're worried about in the first place.
Not only that, the kid will now be curious what the actual "F" word is, and will be curious until he learns, likely from someone other than his parents now. They could've made it a non-issue, and now it's something lodged in his mind.
Yup, my parents turned the van around so they could drag me to the bathroom and get soap in my mouth the first time they heard me say "damn' when I was 6 so I'm rooting for the nephew.
Please tell me it was a nice freshly opened bar of soap and not a bacteria-laden soap from a facility open to the public! I am appalled at the ancient disciplinarian method, which is arguably child abuse, but I'm too busy being upset with the potential of really disgusting bacteria.
I work in foster care. Had a sibling group , all under five, who were placed in a Trump cult foster home (out of my control). One week later they were all yelling “Fuck Joe Biden” at their visitation with family. Needless to say, they were moved from that placement. These people do not care what kids are learning.
Someone in my hometown had a giant flag saying that hanging from their house and they lived like 5 houses from the elementary school. Display your own political views all you want, but keep it appropriate.
If that kid is anything like me when i was that age the sister will regret this decision because once he finds out there’s a very good chance he’s gonna use it a lot because it’s a “forbidden” word
I found out about it at that age too, and was always aggressively shushed and chastised. Got in a lot of trouble because I would often try to get as far away from my parents as possible before quietly repeating "fuck, fuck, fuck" to myself ad nauseam until I was caught.
Myself and a couple of other kids had a "cussing club". It was in a neighbor's bushes. We'd go there and just cuss into the air. No target. And we would giggle our little six year-old asses off.
Reminds me of 6th grade social studies. Our world history textbook had a chapter on early human ancestors and human origins - Australopithecus, Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus, origins in Africa, Neanderthals, all that jazz. I grew up in the Bible Belt so evolution wasn’t on the curriculum. Our teacher could’ve just skipped it and nobody would’ve cared. Less reading, yay! But instead she stopped to say “Chapter three conflicts with my personal beliefs, and is not required in the curriculum, so we will not be covering it in this class.” You bet that’s the only chapter I actually read.
"Teach the controversy" agendas were more successful in some places than we'd like to admit. Many people in the United States who grew up in the 2000's and 2010's had science textbooks that advocated "intelligent design".
I grew up in Pennsylvania and at the beginning of each school year in high school both our science and history teacher had to tell us that they only teach Creationism and any discussion suggesting otherwise will not be tolerated. This was a public school!
Ha, you got played. Your teacher wanted every kid in the class to learn about evolution and knew nobody could get mad if they refused to teach it because they were so Christian, and those darn pesky kids went and did it anyway.
Unfortunately it was her sincere belief. Creationism was very popular, and we were coming out of the late aughts, when creationism vs evolution was a popular controversy. That same year another student saw me reading a book and asked me what it was about. I said "evolution". She replied "you know that's fake right?". That was in the morning. At lunch I was surrounded by her and six other kids hounding me to argue with them about evolution. I'll never forget this one girl, who was so proud that her dad went to abortion clinics to "talk women out of it", said "If evolution is real, then when am I gonna evolve into a mermaid?"
Later in eighth grade science class we were learning about "animal adaptation" and my science teacher almost said "evolution", stopped himself, and said "adaptation" instead. He seemed to know he'd lose credibility or invite argument if he said the E word.
Rural MS, actually. I don't know that we had a List of Forbidden Topics like that, but there are definitely artefacts of the religious affiliation. Like the mandatory Health class taught by a coach who openly believed anal sex caused incontinence among gay men. Or my teacher in 7th grade who stated that Pompeii was God's punishment for Roman sexual decadence. In high school there was an elective "Near Eastern History" class which was effectively bible study. Student elections for explicitly christian "Student Chaplain" officers who would lead prayer before football games and the like (you see, staff can't lead prayer, but facilitating an official student prayer leader is entirely different).
I don’t remember all of them. Some others that I do remember were we couldn’t talk about economic systems other than capitalism in a good light. No gay or lesbian stuff, only hetero. No discussion of slavery. That’s about all I can recall.
I'm very surprised it's not part of the required curriculum; even religious schools in my state have to teach evolution. They're free to tell the students they don't like it, but they have to teach it to meet state graduation standards. Is this not a thing in every state?
Lmfao my science teacher did this. Big whale of a woman had to end it with “ we all know Jesus and creation is the truth” nobody cared or really paid attention but bet I heard her…. And read more into evolution from that day forward.
When I was 8 or so I asked a friend what the F word meant. I was told it was when a naked man got on top of a naked woman. I imagined a naked woman standing with a naked man squatting on her shoulders and was even more confused.
Seriously, my wife has a memory of her 5-year-old cousin chiming in one Christmas with "I know the f word: fart!" These kids are just the excuse for outage at something that's hurting no one.
lmao yeah they sure wont develop any trust issues either once they start figuring out the real meanings from other sources instead of their parents, clueless little buggers!
So story from when I was probably around 5-7 my dad would listen to The Real Slim Shady in the car and I liked the song but had no idea what a "slim shady" was so I asked and he told me to never say that again. Looking back on it I realize it's probably because my mom hates Eminem and if she knew he played it around me it would cause an argument (they would divorce later). But man would it of just been simpler to just say that the guys name.m because I would eventually start listening to Eminem on my own and despite my mom and some failed attempts by family to get me not to Eminem is still on of my favorites.
I was a curious kid. If you won’t tell me then I’ll find out on my own. That’s why I’m upfront with my daughter or I tell her that she needs to reach a certain age before she can have that knowledge. But she’s 12 now and it’s getting harder to tell what is appropriate and what’s not because I don’t want her to fall for something she should have been aware of.
When I was 8 years old, my classmates made me the butt of many jokes because I didn't know what a blow-job was and thought pussy was just another word for a cat.
If you're worried your daughter will "fall for something she should have been aware of," please understand that the average age of such awareness happens much earlier than you think it does, around first grade or so.
I had a couple friends who were 2 years younger than me. They were pushing me to give a blowjob because they already did it. They were 14. My daughter is now close to that age 💀
It’s so silly. I’ve said the word fuck in front of my kids who are four and six. At first they thought it was funny. I told them it’s not really an appropriate word to say at their age and it’s not something we say in certain places like school. Then we moved on from it. Now they don’t give a shit about saying it at all anymore. Removing the taboo fully takes away the allure of saying it.
When my sister was 5 she learned that people get their panties in a twist over the word fuck. She had zero idea what it meant but she loved the reaction it got, so she would sing it around people. Older women were her favourite as they would almost always react.
My four year old’s latest was the word “shitty.” The first time he used it he kept getting his face really close to mine, pausing with a big grin, and then whispering it. It was honestly hilarious and we laughed about it together for about 15 minutes. His comedic timing and delivery were excellent. Then we moved on and I’ve heard it maybe once more since then. The big reaction is what they thrive on.
Yep, they love the reaction. My sister rarely said any words like that at home, because my parents did not care, but the moment we were outside she'd be singing them.
LMAO, little kids swearing is funny as shit. The fact that Chloe Moretz's mother made them leave in the scene where she calls people c*nts was as funny as anything on screen in Kick-Ass, and I really enjoyed that movie. 😆
This requires a level of intelligence and empathy to understand what the kid knows and doesn't know.
What are we talking about here?
Incurious people concerned only with their own point of view and can't be bothered to think about anything from their kid's limited perspective. Sorry your SIL is like that.
When I was a young kid my mom gave me a stuffed bear. Well, not gave per se... I took it and she relented and just let me have it lol. She told me a friend gave it to her. It had overalls and I found a tiny paper stuck in the overalls pocket that said "kinky." I asked her what it was and she freaked out, took away the paper, and refused to explain. I was mad she wouldn't tell me so, out of spite, I named the bear Kinky. I knew she didn't want me to know the word so I MADE SURE I would remember. I wonder if she handled it more casually, if I would have forgotten about the whole thing.
lol I didn’t know the word “shit” until my mom was 100% certain i said it and started yelling at me asking me to repeat what i had said. I repeated what i actually said (can’t recall what it was now) and she said “NO, YOU SAID SHIT”
New vocabulary unlocked. Grounded for doing nothing.
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u/StuckInsideYourWalls 5d ago
While everyone was at parents for holidays, my nephew asked what the 'F' word on a cup meant
The cup had a joke that said, 'oh no, not the F word!!' and then you spin it around and it says Forty
Family is super christians and instead of my sister in law just explaining it by saying, 'oh people stress about growing old, so seeing 'forty' on your fortieth birthday can be a way of poking fun at that,' she instead says 'I don't want you knowing what the F word is'
Like, he is five, he doesn't know what the F word is and has no context for it. Now instead of just taking the power away of even wondering what that thing you don't want him to know is by just giving a context for the joke, you've literally told him that there is an F word lol.
Kids don't know jack shit, you can explain your way around any manner of things you feel aren't appropriate for them to understand yet instead of giving power to the shit you're worried about in the first place.