r/Eugene 3d ago

Oregon's transition to Universal Healthcare: the first state?

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u/TheRisingValkyrie 3d ago

Ill believe it when I see it to be honest.

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u/No-Split-866 3d ago

Pepole really don't understand it. I'm all for it but if you don't have insurance now. When you do, you will be forced to pay for it. Under Obama care as they call it. It was written into the tax code. I split mine with my employer it's 2k a month. I'm hoping it goes down, not up. In a universal system.

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u/TheRisingValkyrie 3d ago

Universal health care is a tax increase. We already pay the same if not more in taxes than countries that already have universal health care without factoring in our medical expenses and cost for plans. I currently don't have insurance because it's gotten so out of hand.

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u/throwawaypickle777 3d ago

Well my insurance is $376 every 2 weeks all year. That’s $9776 for my share of it which is 25% of the premium. So my employer pays just south of $40K. So would that be worse If it was a “tax”? Money is money? Because as it stands I have to pay 10% of my income to ask some dimwits in an office who have no medical degrees if I can please have my prescription every 3 months.

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u/TheRisingValkyrie 3d ago

I am uninsured because it'd cost me $1200/mo to be on insurance as someone with chronic illness and disability. The tax will not be nearly as high as deductibles, medical expenses, and your share...and I would hope less corrupt companies would consider putting that 40K back into their staff if they no longer need to pay that.

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u/OOkami89 3d ago

You think that the government is suddenly going to do right by it’s people?

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u/TheRisingValkyrie 3d ago

Oh hell no are you kidding? 

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u/OOkami89 3d ago

Then we can know for certain that this would fail many people

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u/AxOfBrevity 3d ago

We know for a fact that our current system fails many people.

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u/OOkami89 3d ago

And this will just make it worse.

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u/AxOfBrevity 3d ago

...you assume.

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u/OOkami89 3d ago

Nah I know. Because if the government wanted to help it could have overhauled SSI and disability by now. The VA is already a mini universal healthcare and it will delay treatments until folk die.

The system can’t be made better

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u/No-Split-866 3d ago

I just googled it, but the bottom 50% earners are paying 2.3 % of the federal budget. If it's accurate.

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u/No-Split-866 3d ago

We pay less in federal taxes than most all Western countries with universal health care. But We are talking on a state level, i guess, so I'm all in. I've always thought if we could take the cost out of it. Like malpractice lawsuits. Would you go to a learning clinic. Something similar to a beauty college.