Pepole really don't understand it. I'm all for it but if you don't have insurance now. When you do, you will be forced to pay for it. Under Obama care as they call it. It was written into the tax code. I split mine with my employer it's 2k a month. I'm hoping it goes down, not up. In a universal system.
Universal health care is a tax increase. We already pay the same if not more in taxes than countries that already have universal health care without factoring in our medical expenses and cost for plans. I currently don't have insurance because it's gotten so out of hand.
Well my insurance is $376 every 2 weeks all year. That’s $9776 for my share of it which is 25% of the premium. So my employer pays just south of $40K. So would that be worse If it was a “tax”? Money is money? Because as it stands I have to pay 10% of my income to ask some dimwits in an office who have no medical degrees if I can please have my prescription every 3 months.
I am uninsured because it'd cost me $1200/mo to be on insurance as someone with chronic illness and disability. The tax will not be nearly as high as deductibles, medical expenses, and your share...and I would hope less corrupt companies would consider putting that 40K back into their staff if they no longer need to pay that.
We pay less in federal taxes than most all Western countries with universal health care. But We are talking on a state level, i guess, so I'm all in. I've always thought if we could take the cost out of it. Like malpractice lawsuits. Would you go to a learning clinic. Something similar to a beauty college.
I'm not sure what you're saying. But I do know my work group of about 300 hundred are lumped into a group. The more we use it, the more it goes up. Cancer pregnancy, anything long-term will affect our cost. We've had healthy good years, and it didn't go down. It's totally fucked.
I’m just saying a universal healthcare system costs less money generally than that of health insurance offered by employers or bought elsewhere. In other words universal healthcare system = good on your wallet as well
Gotcha the Middle man. Have you seen the Pacific Source office in springfield. If you could cut that fat out. We would lose several jobs. But perhaps we could obtain more pcps.
O ya, they are very transparent about it. So we feel guilt as individuals when we are sick or injured. Some more so than others. Then you have a couple that point out others.
I can't remember the numbers, but the size of the work group does dictate options. Some smaller companies in Lane are self insured seems to be the way for a smaller work group to go. My Dad's company had its own doctors office on campus. Pcp type stuff was handled at work.
Union employe. 3 k employees give or take at the time. I like your wiki link. This is what people don't understand. With the federal health care act aka Obama Care, we needed the healthy population to buy in. I've actually never even needed my insurance fingers crossed 🤞. My wife would be dead without ins.
Health insurance conversations never go well in this sub. It seems full of low iq ideas. Like free health care and doctors everywhere would fix it. Oregon just sucks in this category plain and simple. The best thing we have going is OHSU.
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u/TheRisingValkyrie 3d ago
Ill believe it when I see it to be honest.