r/Eugene • u/Tight-Ad2916 • 5d ago
EPD PRESS RELEASE REGARDING BLACK MAN THAT WAS ASSAULTED YESTERDAY.
Blurred out name so I don’t dox him. I want to see the body cam footage.
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u/Z0ooool 5d ago
I said so in the now deleted post: The body cams will tell for sure but it’s not bootlicking to exit the vehicle when the police tell you to.
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u/Commercial_Leader952 5d ago
I am trying to see both sides here, as in my career, I always see lies on both sides (police and defendants).
So this sub reddit is relying on a random post made by a random person claiming that this person was beaten up? Have we heard from the victim? How can we rely on such information without proof? Same could be said about the police's take on it, how can we rely on their recall of events without body cam? I see cases like this often, where people refuse to leave vehicles and it escalates the situation. However, cops shouldn't feel empowered to be so harsh. We have bad, poorly trained cops in this town - we also have bad members of the public. Before everyone gets so divided on this, we need to see the facts first before making judgment. On tnr victim's side, you need more than just a random reddit post that may not be the truth and is filled with emotion. If this person was truly in fact beaten, I'd hope that they will take the matter to trial. I am hoping the truth will come out.
Also, this person's information is on a public website, blocking out the name on here isn't going to do much in the regards of doxxing.
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u/band-of-horses 5d ago
So this sub reddit is relying on a random post made by a random person claiming that this person was beaten up
People tend to believe whatever fits their biases. The sub tends to be pretty anti-cop, or at least a vocal contingent, so of course they are going to believe anyone posting about alleged police abuse.
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u/Commercial_Leader952 5d ago
yeah, it's concerning that people lack critical thinking skills and just blindy believe whatever fits their narrative
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u/stinkyfootjr 5d ago edited 4d ago
Remember a few years ago when the cops shot a black guy in the Whit and we heard the same knee jerk racist ACAB stuff? Then the vid and whole story came out that he came at the cop with a knife when cornered and the reason the cops were chasing him is because he had just assaulted his partner while she was holding his kid. He went from victim to POS, but everybody defending him never said, “opps I was wrong, should have waited till the facts came out.”
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u/etherbunnies The mum of /r/eugene...also a dude. 5d ago
The sub tends to be pretty anti-cop, or at least a vocal contingent, so of course they are going to believe anyone posting about alleged police abuse.
We didn't get that suspicion from thin air.
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u/Repulsive_Leg5878 5d ago
Badly trained is crazy in perspective of epd being one of the better police forces in the country. Epd deal with a lot more mental health thus I trust them more than backwoods Alabama yehaw cop
Our country is cooked
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u/OOkami89 5d ago
Oh a DUI, yeah that changes everything. Eff those people that endanger the lives of others.
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u/TadashiAbashi 5d ago
The lesson we learned here today, the lesson that every adult(especially black people) should know. That when cops tell you to exit your vehicle because they suspect a DUI, then you exit the damn vehicle.
If the cops are wrong, THEN FIGHT IT IN COURT.
DO NOT FIGHT WITH COPS ON SCENE. (Resisting is fighting, I'm sorry, but it is)
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u/elementalbee 5d ago
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u/Critical_Concert_689 5d ago
Rio McWilliams
Oh shit. Is this the SAME Mario "Rio" McWilliams who runs all the local drug-addiction clinics? Real news if he's getting high on his own medications...
Last post that was quietly removed by OP detailed that the "victim" was working in the medical field and interacted with cops a lot...
Makes sense if he's an "addiction" specialist (lol).
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u/PunksOfChinepple 5d ago
The post yesterday say officers attacked the suspect, but this release says the suspect attacked the officers? Who's lying?
Why does Reddit mention the skin color of the suspect, but the press release doesn't? When a white man on a motorcycle crashed a couple weeks ago, EPD didn't mention what color he was. Why the inconsistency? Clearly, what color you are is super duper extra important, as is has no bearing on anything, but the racists like OP always have to go out of their way to talk about it. Criminals shouldn't attack police and drive drunk, even if they're the color you like. Hot take, I know.
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u/sanktanglia 5d ago
if he was drunk and attacked the officers why would he be released without charges?
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u/Steephill 5d ago
He WASNT released without charges... He was cited and released, that means he was charged.
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u/sanktanglia 5d ago edited 5d ago
edit - my bad i misread the press release
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u/Steephill 5d ago
The Eugene PD statement literally says he was charged with both DUI and Resisting Arrest...
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u/Aesir_Auditor 5d ago
You're telling me the guy who posted in depth about the event, but didn't think to check the cameras on the Tesla, then went radio silent after that suggestion came up might have been trying to drum up sympathy before the DUII came up?
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u/stinkyfootjr 5d ago
Had to keep the reason for the DUII quiet, this person is a substance abuse practitioner. Drunk and driving in the middle of the day is a bad look.
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u/Aesir_Auditor 5d ago
In theory.
I don't think it's that bad a look. Plenty of addicts when they get clean start up operations to help other addicts who struggled with the same. Unfortunately clean living inherently carries a risk of relapse. If anything this shows a continued need for the clinic.
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u/Suspicious-Ball0311 5d ago
Tried to tell people yesterday to chill the fuck out and wait until all the information comes out. Why does every one in Eugene want to jump to conclusions immediately without all the facts? Makes you all look retarded, socially and intellectually. The guy was DRUNK at 2pm people, middle of the day when schools start releasing. Pillar of the community my ass.
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u/YawninglemonsOG 5d ago
Because we live in a blue city where anything police is instantly hated.
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u/InThisHouseWeBelieve 5d ago
Eugene's a retrograde place in many respects. In the nineties, it was the last refuge of the nation's burned-out hippies. A decade from now, it'll be the only place on earth where you can say "all cops are bastards" without people rolling their eyes or outright laughing in your face.
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u/Glum_Succotash3980 5d ago edited 5d ago
It reminds me of the Charlie Landeros shooting a couple of years ago: "https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2019/01/eugene-police-legally-justified-in-killing-man-at-middle-school-da-says.html"
Back then, if people simply said, "Let's wait for the evidence." They were shouted down and branded "racist".
There will be bodycam footage. Let's wait for that to be released. Just a hunch, but I feel like it will not be favorable for the person arrested for DUI.
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u/WiiRemoteInMyAss 5d ago
Because the social credit system around here is to act like you care about minorities online so that pseudo hippies who watch tiktok all day can feel righteous.
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u/Straight_Try_6761 5d ago
Even the minorities are tired of this white virtue signaling bull shit.
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u/Lucky_3334 5d ago
They didn't mention his BAC. You actually have no idea if he was drunk as you can be charged with a duii in oregon with a BAC under .08.
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u/etherbunnies The mum of /r/eugene...also a dude. 5d ago
The guy was DRUNK at 2pm people, middle of the day when schools start releasing. Pillar of the community my ass.
Was he? You're doing the same thing as those people ranting yesterday.
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u/reddogisdumb 5d ago
If the cops charged him with a DUI it means they have physical evidence of a DUI. Its mean they drew some blood or took a breathalyzer.
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u/etherbunnies The mum of /r/eugene...also a dude. 4d ago
If the cops charged him with a DUI it means they have physical evidence of a DUI. Its mean they drew some blood or took a breathalyzer.
You might want to run this one by u/eugenelawyer. Blood or breathalyzer is not a requirement for charging. It isn't run past a grand jury either.
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u/EugeneLawyer Mod 4d ago edited 4d ago
Blood/Urine tests can take months to come back from the state crime lab. I had one take a year to come back.
Breath tests are done after the person has been arrested and taken to the jail. Even if the person blows under a .08 officers will still hand them a citation. Some prosecutors will still take cases to trial who blow a .05 (the DA’s rate of success in prosecution greatly diminishes the further away from .08).
DUI’s have nuances, particularly alleged controlled substance DUI’s. The police look for “clues of impairment” that some sober people have normally. If you have a decent attorney these can be challenged with success on a regular basis (assuming the person isn’t acting like the teenagers in the opening of super troopers).
I’ve gotten not guilty verdicts on DUI’s including a guy who blew a .2 and controlled substance DUI’s. I’ve also talked DA’s into dismissing DUI’s as well.
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u/Lucky_3334 5d ago edited 5d ago
You can be charged with a dui in Oregon with a BAC under .08. In fact, a cop does not have to do a breathalyzer or blood sample to charge you with anything. Sure, it might not hold up in court, but behavior of "impairment" perceived by an officer is quite enough to be charged with a duii. I put quotes around impairment because it's pretty broad and open-ended on what classifies as impaired.
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u/Straight_Try_6761 5d ago
True but they are trained to notice things and stopping in the middle of a intersection especially 7th & Washington (onramp to 105), to argue with police officers making a traffic stop, is not helping your case that you weren't under the influence.
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u/reddogisdumb 5d ago
Driver here was drunk. They wouldn't charge DUI in a high profile case without physical evidence. And, as you say, he behaved erratically when they tried to pull him over (parked in a ridiculous way).
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u/reddogisdumb 5d ago
Based on what the EPD put out here, I'm very confident they have physical evidence of a DUI.
A high profile case like this... they wouldn't charge DUI without physical evidence.
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u/UpasikaNerdicus 5d ago
I have not seen reference to the intoxicant being alcohol specifically. Could be prescription drugs. Dunno.
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u/I-will-judge-YOU 4d ago
If you get pulled over for being impaired then that means you were driving poorly. Oh, and he also stopped literally in the middle of an intersection so that's also a pretty good indication.He was drunk just fucking stop.
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u/etherbunnies The mum of /r/eugene...also a dude. 4d ago
Yes, he must have been impaired, versus thought the cop car was trying to go around him and was attempting to get out of the way, missed the lines in the rain, or just plain was startled enough to pick a bad place to stop.
You all are so upset at the attempt to ragebait yesterday, you're flipping hard the other direction.
Not every story by the police is true. But I'm glad you've never had the chance to learn that first hand.
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u/Earthventures 5d ago
He must have been pretty intoxicated to stop in the middle of an intersection.
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u/TreatGrrrl 5d ago
I’ve been clean/sober/crime free for 5 years, but I’ve been arrested a couple dozen times all over Oregon (many times by EPD.) When a police officer puts their lights & siren on, you pull over at the closest safe area (not in the middle of an intersection blocking traffic in multiple directions.) When a police officer tells you to exit your vehicle, you get out of your vehicle. If you want to cause problems for yourself you do the opposite.
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u/RightingTheShip 5d ago
Thanks to the EPD. Drunk drivers are a danger to the public. This officer might have saved an innocent person from being injured or worse.
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u/Water_gorl 5d ago
Blurring out the name does more harm than good. His name is Rio McWilliams, he is a PROVIDER in town, running an addiction treatment clinic in town. The ironic is insane.
Him pulling the race card is wrong, and he is the type of person to resist arrest and make a big deal out of this. I know this because I'm a former employee of his. Rio was like a father to me. He was a great man long ago, but he changed completely. I've seen him do so many illegal things in his practice, and hopefully this will finally be the nail in the coffin to get the medical board to revoke his license.
I dont understand why Eugene Police let him go, if he was anywhere else in the country, he'd still be in jail with a crazy bail. The clinic is near South Eugene high school, and kids cross the streets all the time to buy lunch at the safeway across the street. This is incredibly irresponsible and illegal!
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u/Z0ooool 5d ago
Interesting background on this. That is certainly motive to get ahead of the story.
To answer your other question, the courts commonly let everyone but murderers and those accused of the most heinous out. DUI and resisting arrest don’t stay in lockup until trial.
Being let out doesn’t mean he won’t be charged, either.
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u/Water_gorl 5d ago
Thank you for answering my question, that actually makes sense ♥️ Still disappointed he's still allowed to drive
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u/RomaCafe 4d ago
If you are charged with DUII you receive an automatic license suspension via the DMV. You cannot legally drive. This happens immediately (before a trial). OP also stated the car in this incident was towed/impounded on the spot.
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u/Water_gorl 5d ago
I've tried to make a post on Lane County Mugshots about his behavior and warn people a long time ago, but it got taken down.
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u/Proximus_Cornelius 5d ago
Does he have a past history of this kind of behavior? I only know of him being a founder of addiction treatment centers.
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u/Water_gorl 5d ago
Though I can't speak much on it, he does (in his personal life). Didn't think it'd spill out like this. I would think the people in his life would intervene more, but it's clear they haven't
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u/3LOT3 4d ago
This is fun. OP posted this saga in hopes to anonymously defend his boss and find justice, and what he actually did was put him on blast.
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u/Water_gorl 4d ago
Oh wow, I didn't know OP worked for Equinox! I have 3 guesses as to who it is now, this just makes it more hilarious
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u/pioniere 5d ago
So the real headline is, ‘Man arrested for impaired driving, plays race card instead of taking responsibility’.
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u/Flipmstr2 5d ago
My skepticism fro the original post claiming I was apprehensive taking the OP of that post at face value extends to this one, it could be completely fabricated, I don’t see any links and doing a quick search for Eugene police department press releases showed nothing.
One thing I have learned over the past decade is take nothing at face value. Lies exist on all sides.
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u/Z0ooool 5d ago
That is a most excellent point and I did a mental facepalm that I didn’t check the source myself before believing!
I just checked the EPD’s Facebook and yes, the statement is there as of three hours ago.
Of course we don’t know about the content of the statement (innocent until proven guilty) but the statement itself is legit.
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u/Flipmstr2 5d ago edited 5d ago
I don’t do Facebook. But I do see the event entered in the dispatch log. No details though. Doing the search for Rio McWilliams brings up press release on KVAL’s website and a few other news outlets.
Edit: add additional info
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u/Bassnerdarrow 5d ago
I am still curious what any body cam or if there was a Tesla cam recording caught.
It is always fascinating how people react to these kinds of incidents with their bias, they are either sharpening pitch forks and lighting torches or they are cheering on the police for a job well done. Both sides are equally disturbing as it just shows a general lack of understanding of nuance and critical thinking.
For instance, the OP casually left out the entire DUII bit and a lot of their information on yesterdays post was contradictory and unlikely and it was filled with exaggeration and hyperbole.
It is unlikely that the accused would have been held for 3 hours without a medical check up and clean up which the OP from yesterday claims they went to his house after the incident to clean blood off of him and bandage his wounds, shaping a narrative of a man who was lying in blood for 3 hours...
It is unlikely that the accused was held for 3 hours and then just let go as the OP was stating yesterday "after finding out who he was" and it is far more likely that he was cited and released (and he was according to EPD) as that has been a practice of Lane County for years at least since COVID.
I am not here to say the man was not beaten up by the police nor am I here to say he was or even the likelihood of it was or was not but the bottom line is its disturbing seeing how polarizing every thing is and how predictably ignorant and dangerous it is.
I do hope some video evidence is released because I fear there are just pockets of people ready to explode leading up to January 20th and if it is something nefarious and evil I would rather it be justified rage versus misinformation on either side.
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u/reddogisdumb 5d ago
They cited him (Rio McWilliams) for a DUI. So they have physical evidence of a DUI. Which certainly lends credibility to the claim that he was non-compliant.
Lets see what the body cam footage looks like. I'd bet it doesn't look very sympathetic to McWilliams. Drunks are often non-compliant.
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u/Lucky_3334 5d ago
They don't need physical evidence to cite you. You can receive a DUI charge without blowing a .08 or having a blood test result showing illicit substances in your system. They don't often do it because it wouldn't hold much weight in court but an officer is free to charge you with a dui based on perceived "impaired" behavior alone.
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u/reddogisdumb 5d ago
So you're saying thats whats happening here? There is no physical evidence of a DUI and the charge is based soley on officers discretion?
Thats a ludicrous idea. They wouldn't do that with a case that has this much attention. Your idea here is laughable.
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u/Lucky_3334 5d ago
I'm not trying to guess what's happening here, just pointing out that your opinions are conjecture.
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u/reddogisdumb 5d ago
Its not an opinion that this case is high profile. That is a fact.
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u/Lucky_3334 5d ago
First off, maybe take a deep breath. You seem worked up over nothing. Secondly, what's conjecture is your conclusion that the subject of the article was drunk in the middle of the day. The article made no mention that the individual blew over the legal limit or if it was even alcohol that might have been the cause of his impairment. As for the profile of the case, like I already said, I don't know who this person is and am genuinely wondering what designates it as high profile. Reposting the article doesn't exactly tell me why it is high profile. I mean, DUI's show up in the paper all the time.
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u/reddogisdumb 5d ago
No, DUI's don't get reported like this all the time. Go look at the EPD facebook page and see how many press releases they give over drunk drivers. Its rare.
And yeah, I get worked up over drunk drivers. They kill people. They nearly killed some of my friends.
Guess what? Your friend here is in deep shit for drunk driving. Maybe instead of making excuses for this guy you should consider the lives that were saved because he got pulled off the road.
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u/Lucky_3334 5d ago
Again, though, that's really far from the point of my comments. I was just curious.
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u/reddogisdumb 5d ago
So we agree this is a high profile case? High profile simply because EPD is choosing to spotlight it.
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u/Lucky_3334 5d ago
No, that's an asinine thought process, and the entire goal of propaganda: "things aren't important unless we tell you they are."
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u/Lucky_3334 5d ago
I'm from a city about 100k larger in population than Eugene/Springfield, and every single DUI was printed in the newspaper the next day. So, I guess I don't view a DUI as high profile just because it is being reported.
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u/reddogisdumb 5d ago
Did you look at the Eugene PD FB page and see what they choose to publicize there?
Or are you just going to wallow in deliberate ignorance?
They're not posting every single DUI on that page.
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u/Lucky_3334 5d ago
Honestly, I really don't care if its high profile or not and it one thousand percent doesn't change the fact that you're jumping to conclusions.
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u/Antonolmiss 5d ago
Everyone is rebounding so hard after this post. Wait for the court roll. Wait for what comes out before drawing conclusions, on either side.
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u/PerformerGreat 5d ago
I mean, I'm not pro cop I'm not anti cop. But there have been quite a few misleading posts on here regarding the police in order to make them look worse than they are. If we are going to assess a situation involving police I think it's important to have all the facts first. Sounds like dude got what he deserved.
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u/Need_sun5474 5d ago edited 5d ago
Why don’t you wait until we see the video. The way people are talking about him just makes me really want to see it.
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u/tn_tacoma 5d ago
So he was drunk driving and resisted arrest. Guess it's time to protest the police in the streets.
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u/North_Anybody996 5d ago
People in Eugene wanted the officer to give the guy a back rub and send him on his way. Have a nice drunk drive, sir!
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u/iNardoman 5d ago
His name is in this news article, in case anyone is still worried about doxing, that ship has sailed.
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u/Alarming-Wave-769 4d ago edited 4d ago
Not to be mean but society has made it so that police can’t do their job .. because it’s deemed racist / sexist .. and then we complain they do nothing
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u/RetardAuditor 5d ago
I'm not going to come to any conclusions until I see the body camera footage.
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u/geneva_illusions 5d ago
Why is it important that it was a "black man"? The qualifier implies that race makes a difference. Would it matter if he was Hispanic... Or Asian? Should he be treated with more deference because he's black? Less?
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u/Need_sun5474 5d ago edited 5d ago
I think you should meditate about your racist energy.
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u/geneva_illusions 4d ago
Lol, ok pal I'll get right on that.
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u/Need_sun5474 4d ago
Troll.
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u/geneva_illusions 4d ago
You HOPE it's racist. I hope it is not. We aren't the same.
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u/Need_sun5474 4d ago
There are a lot of comments making judgments about this and attacking his character. Thats suspicious.
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u/geneva_illusions 4d ago
Sure. I'm a "troll" for implying that law enforcement should not consider race in their interaction with the citizenry. That they should be impartial and held to that. But, oh no, here comes a clown on Reddit.
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u/Need_sun5474 4d ago
No they should not. The issue here is did they pull him over because of his race?
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u/geneva_illusions 4d ago
As much as you hope to see racism here... You have no proof that it was racist... But you really hope so. Very sick state of mind. I hope it wasn't. Again, we are not the same.
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u/Need_sun5474 4d ago edited 4d ago
The comments are definitely racist. I don’t know happened with the police though.
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u/geneva_illusions 4d ago
None of my comments were racist. My comments stated that the job of police officers should be without consideration of race and only aligned with duty... Which is why we have police officers. I said, would it be different if they were Hispanic, or Asian. It shouldn't matter. There should be no consideration about the characteristics of the person they are encountering.
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u/geneva_illusions 4d ago
But you declared I should meditate over my racist energy. You WISHING for this to be racist is abhorrent. Basically, you hope someone was treated differently based on their race to validate your faux outrage. Good God.
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u/Somepeopleskidslol 5d ago
pennsylvania V mimms makes it very clear, and officer at any time following a traffic stop may ask you to step out of the car and conduct a pat down for officer safety... any time during a traffic stop an officer has legal authority to ask you to get out of your car... if you don't you are resisting arrest without violence and will be going to jail.
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u/Somepeopleskidslol 5d ago
@lucky_3334 why delete that primo comment... to answer your question.. No we are not in Pennsylvania, however the Supreme Courts rulings are for every state ;) please understand how our governmental process works before you vote....
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u/Lucky_3334 5d ago
Big round of applause for this guy. I'm sure you're a hit at parties and lead a fulfilling romantic life.
Ever occur to you that i deleted my comment because I already figured that out?
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u/Somepeopleskidslol 5d ago
Lol you poor salty thing.
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u/Lucky_3334 5d ago
Maybe, at least I still have my youth and my looks, though.
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u/Somepeopleskidslol 5d ago
You may have your youth, and I'm sure you have your looks... who else's would you have.
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u/ChrisInBliss 5d ago
Having to use a taser AND pepper spray he had to have really not been listening.
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u/GameOverMan1986 5d ago
What the hell does his skin tone have to do with anything?
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u/666truemetal666 5d ago
Have you ever read anything about the history of the police in this country??
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u/Moarbrains 5d ago
It isn't the 50s anymore. We have bodycams, car cams and a civilian review board.
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u/sanktanglia 5d ago
are you trying to suggest that racism is over, especially in the justice system, especially the police? like come the fuck on
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u/Moarbrains 5d ago
Assuming the case is race based is just jumping to conclusions.
The police report is going to follow the camera footage and dude was clearly out of his gourd to think he needed to stop in the middle of the street.
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u/sanktanglia 5d ago
when did i jump to conlusions? im just disagreeing with your insistence that it couldnt be a racial issue. You are the one who immediately jumped to conclusions to assume that it couldnt be a racial issue because its not the 50s and we have body cameras now...except last i checked even with all of those things, systematic racism still exists, so not sure what you are trying to prove, that its all gone now? so yeah maybe you shouldnt jump to conclusions and read up on a little concept called hypocrisy
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u/Moarbrains 4d ago
Do you think this was racially motivated?
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u/sanktanglia 4d ago
I'm waiting on the body cam footage before making that assumption. Police statements often fail to portray whether force was actually required(and it's hard for me to feel like it was required to beat and tase him) but I'm hopeful the body cam footage will make it more clear
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u/666truemetal666 5d ago
Go tell that to Breonna taylor
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u/Dapper_Money_Tree 5d ago
Where her killers were let go… oh wait, they were rightfully hauled up on charges, convicted, her family given millions, along with many public promises by the police district to reform, firings, required use of body cameras where their wasn’t before. And no knock warrants redone in plenty of others. Plus, many trials aren’t over with. There is still reckoning to be had.
Of course, of course, of course none of this should have happened to begin with and she should be alive but it’s a bit rich to use her innocent name for this way, and pretend her death went forgotten. Then compare it to a DUI.
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u/666truemetal666 5d ago
Using it to remind people that racism is alive in American policing is not disrespectful to her, that's absolutely ridiculous
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u/Moarbrains 5d ago edited 5d ago
We are not in Phillie and this is not a no knock raid. I really get tired of people hating on cops just because some cop in some other city.
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u/saabstory14 4d ago edited 1d ago
LMAO at the person's employee on here yesterday with their version. It definitely proves there are always two sides. How embarrassing for them. If it were me, I wouldn't be showing my face around these parts for a while.
Let me guess...they got over to their boss's place, saw a bloodied black man, and he gave them a half baked story about an interaction with the police. The employee immediately goes into knee jerk emotional reaction mode, taking everything the boss said as verbatim. Then, they went online and started ranting, forgetting any kind of objectivity (because it's their boss).
Starting to see the full picture here. I can't wait to see the actual body cam footage. News flash: black or white, people lie. Even if they are your boss.
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u/Massive-Ad-3484 1d ago
I first heard about this, I believe before any news came out (?). It was a Go Fund Me, they claimed their boss was racially profiled, assaulted, arrested for doing nothing wrong, while driving, and would never be intoxicated " if you only knew him..upstanding member of community, a doctor" etc.
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u/saabstory14 1d ago
Yes, there was a similar post on Reddit from that person saying the same things. It has been conveniently deleted now, lol.
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u/Massive-Ad-3484 1d ago
I remember wondering if the boss was going to be really pissed when he found out (being the important person that he is), all his business out there and asking people to pay his legal fees. It's disappeared as well.
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u/Due_Hand_761 4d ago
I don’t believe skin color was why this individual was stopped. Kind of tired of that being the knee jerk reaction. Non-compliance with the instructions of the officers was defiance of an official order. Same result for anyone, regardless of ethnicity. Our police deserve the benefit of the doubt on this one. DUI is a danger to all and has taken innocent lives over and over again. I’m grateful they’re trying to minimize casualties from it.
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u/headstar101 5d ago
You know, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, regardless of the race of the person smoking it.
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u/cedar212 4d ago
I don't depend on Hollywood Actors, Sport Legends or social media to form my opinions..... ever!
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u/Need_sun5474 5d ago
This subreddit is more MAGA then North Carolina.
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u/Grigory_Vakulinchuk 4d ago
This sub has been astroturfed and purposefully brigaded for a while now. Fox News and friends made it a target and these people still pop in.
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u/thirdworldtaxi 5d ago
Ah, the inhumanly powerful 55 year old black man strikes again. Any public statement EPD wants to make with a lot of serious allegations against this man should be accompanied by unedited body cam footage verifying their accusations. I was a graveyard taxi driver for 10 years, I dealt with the same problem people the cops do for ten years and never tazed, pepper sprayed, or beat the shit out of a single person. Three armed officers against a 55 year old man and you couldn’t deescalate peacefully, bullshit. Shameful.
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u/Oregonguy1954 3d ago
I don't care what color someone is; if they're driving drunk and resist arrest, they deserve whatever they get. My 11 year old niece was killed by a drunk driver here in Eugene in 2009 and our family has never truly recovered from the senseless loss of this beautiful and talented young lady. One man's selfishness took the lives of four people that night. Before you get all defensive of the rights of the drunks, please consider the rights of the rest of us not to be hit by them or to get that chilling phone call that the little girl, or other loved one, that you saw just a day before, will never grace you again with her laughter or her love because some drunk decided to drive 90 miles an hour through a red light.
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u/Major-Programmer-894 3d ago
This title is rage bait. You would hope by now a person can just be called a Man without his race being brought into it. A man had was suspected of DUI and had an altercation with police. I don’t believe being african america would make him more or less innocent or guilty. People need to grow up.
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u/Other_Seesaw_8281 3d ago
I see same ol’ pale Eugene blindly believing the EPD. They are extremely racist. They have a promotional video with a blue lives matter flag in it. But one PR post worked for 99% of pale Reddit. The is zero proof of DUI. Not even in their PR crap was there proof.
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u/ElixirMixer6 4d ago
I know a weapons and tactics dealer he has been hit with it all he says pepper spray is by far the worst weapon to be struck by. Just terrible .
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u/possum-nips-fupa 4d ago
I was arrested, had my car impounded and CONVICTED of a DUI when I was 100% sober. I had been crying, so my eyes were red. I was hauled into the LC JAIL for further investigation when the sheriff's decided my FST was inconclusive, because I have a disability that makes it difficult to do most of the tasks in their field tests. I blew 0.000 twice, and didn't show any signs of intoxication, but in a naive effort to get home sooner I agreed to a Urinalysis which came back dirty for cannabis AND cocaine which I don't even use, but had been in contact with someone who does. Over $1000 and a ton of stress and embarrassment later and justice will never be mine. Since that day I am hesitant, if not resistant to stepping out of a vehicle at the urging of a cop. Stepping out is costly and literally puts you at their mercy..
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u/Z0ooool 4d ago
Since that day I am hesitant, if not resistant to stepping out of a vehicle at the urging of a cop. Stepping out is costly and literally puts you at their mercy..
Oh lawd...
Do not self-sabotage by refusing to step out of the vehicle. Easiest way to turn a misdemeanor into a felony.
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u/possum-nips-fupa 4d ago
I ask for a supervisor. Has worked every time. I'm highly educated, know my rights and refuse to fall victim to the predatory, ego-reactive, imbecilic, law distorters they call the police and sheriffs in the Willamette valley. Nope. I'm not complying unless someone with some age and personal accountability insists I do it.
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u/PunksOfChinepple 5d ago
You are saying drunk drivers shouldn't be beaten, which is wrong. I have biker friends who are dead because of killers who do exactly this. Sober up before driving.
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u/Flipmstr2 5d ago
No, drunk drivers should not be beaten. Nobody should be beaten unless it is necessary to get them to comply. Cops should not be judges. They need to apprehend and present a case so the offenders should be judged in a court of law.
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u/OOkami89 5d ago
Defending willful negligence is a problematic take.
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u/Flipmstr2 4d ago
I am not sure where you are coming from. Who are you saying is negligent?
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u/OOkami89 4d ago
Oh negligence is me being generous. DUI more attempted murder
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u/Flipmstr2 4d ago
Who said I was defending DUI? Please point out where I did that. I did point out that cops should not be responsible for executing punishment. A cop may feel you deserve a baton to the bridge of the nose because you went 5mph over the speed limit. Or a spot of pepper spray because you failed to use a turn signal.
Now these aren’t real world examples, but hopefully it gets the point across. Speaking of real world, I may be inclined if a small extra jab is inflicted when apprehending somebody being caught red-handed doing something heinous. You know, “give me a reason to say you are resisting”. But even then cops have proven their actions and discretion can’t always be trusted.
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u/PunksOfChinepple 5d ago
The cops are few and busy, there are many of us, if we start beating all the drunk drivers, there would absolutely be a reduction in the number of people they kill and maim. You don't want that?
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u/OOkami89 5d ago
I didn’t think that I would ever agree with you. One of those POS killed my grandfather
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u/Need_sun5474 5d ago
There is probably going to be big law suit from this. Is this person a doctor?
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u/DragonfruitTiny6021 5d ago edited 5d ago
The post I read yesterday left out the DUII part (I think?). Changes my perspective a bit.