Welp, They Finally Broke Our Bud Datto

[u/lukelimbaugh]

He's so right. There's a suit at Bungo that got paid for this decision. More concerned with the next few months of $$ than the next few years of players.

https://youtu.be/mYSdTqwHM-k?si=bVw8T5yD2FZs5Zwj&t=1120

[u/Ok_Programmer_1022]

I don't blame him, why the hell is it even called "starter pack"? it will confuse new players even more.

I swear bungie is digging their own grave.

[u/[deleted] → u/Ok_Programmer_1022]

It’s called that because it will confuse and trick new players into wasting 15 bucks on this scam of a pack.

[u/yet-again-temporary → u/[deleted]]

Hell, I played a fair amount of D2 at launch and was thinking of getting back into it recently, at this point I have no goddamned idea what I have to buy or what content is relevant for catching up (both in terms of plot and light level)

Can't imagine you guys see many completely brand new players if even someone who's trying to return is having this much trouble

[u/Ok_Programmer_1022 → u/yet-again-temporary]

Exactly, the forsaken pack shouldn't be a thing nor the dungeon keys.

Make dungeon keys part of the season or the expansion.

In addition to that, Shadowkeep, beyond light, lightfall and the final shape should be put in an order, and in-game cutscene(or better a mission) should exist to explain what happened in each season.

If bungie wants revenue, they should make stuff more approachable for new players instead of confusing the hell out of them.

[u/Brad_030 → u/Ok_Programmer_1022]

As someone who just started about a week and a half ago, I’m so fucking lost, lol. I played D1 from start to finish and then moved on to other things shortly after D2 release, so I kinda know some of the lore, but I don’t even know where to start as far as content I should be doing.

Currently about 1770, so I’m doing nightfalls now. Almost finished unlocking the strand class fully, and trying to prep to raid. I guess just do the weekly stuff that gives good gear, and then focus on unlocking stasis as well? Not really sure what to farm for other than that.

[u/bird_dog0347 → u/Brad_030]

If you care about the story lines, I'd say once you're done with Strand and Lightfall, maybe go back and start the Shadowkeep campaign then Beyond Light campaign (assuming you bought them), then go to the HELM and start the seasonal story from the War Table (by the window) then once you finish all that rotate counter-clockwise around the HELM doing the seasonal stuff for each one to catch up to where we are today. There will still be a ton of the story missing for you from older seasons and the Red War (OG D2) that are gone now.

In the Cosmodrome you can get the New Light quest from Shaw Han and complete that to sorta kinda get an idea of what's going on. Then there's the guardian ranks (journey tab on the character menu) that can show you how to rank those up and what you need to work on if you want to.

[u/Brad_030 → u/bird_dog0347]

Thanks for the info, I’m really trying to dig through YT to find out what gear I need to chase to make viable builds. Mainly for pve, but I do enjoy pvp some as well. I read a post yesterday talking about all the guns/gear that give vets an advantage in pvp, so I’m currently looking into that. They were talking about some having aim assist, some doing headshot damage for body shots, and the health recovery that I see almost immediately in some matches.

I know it will be slow going, but the game is fun and I don’t have the need to be top tier meta to enjoy it.

[u/bird_dog0347 → u/Brad_030]

Do you play all three classes? Or just one at this time? Knowing that could help direct you to certain builds and tell you what armor/guns to chase.

[u/Brad_030 → u/bird_dog0347]

I’m maining a Hunter, but have all 3 leveling right now. Warlock is at about 1755, and I’ve only just began doing things on my titan. Will probably run some dares this week to get him some gear.

[u/bird_dog0347 → u/Brad_030]

Gotcha, on hunter there are a few good options for you to consider. If you prefer Strand and want to play that way I like the Foetracer (exotic helmet) build with the Maelstrom aspect and Quicksilver Storm *with catalyst*. If you like to run Void the Gryfalcon's (Exotic chest) build along side Gravaton Lance is a ton of fun and makes you invis while everything turns purple and goes boom.

For your Warlock I've been having a ton of fun on solar with Sunbracer's exotic arms, solar grenades, and Monte Carlo (you need powered melee kills to trigger the exotic arms perk and throw like 5 solar grenades to just obliterate everything in sight.

[u/Brad_030 → u/bird_dog0347]

Was planning on using the foetracer/strand build since I have all the gear for it. Just spent tod now how long trying to finish parting the veil and finally gave up on the boss. I can’t beat final phase when the veil drops. Gotta level a bit more and should be able to get it. Thanks for the direction!