r/DestinyTheGame • u/USArmyOldTimer • Mar 01 '23

Byf blasts Lightfall campaign Media

In his new video MyNameIsByf expresses his profound disappoint with Lightfall and concern for Bungie's narrative capabilities and for the future of Destiny 2, particularly The Final Shape.

Here is a link to his video :

https://youtu.be/BcX6TjLbpWU

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u/BetaThetaOmega Mar 02 '23

Well yeah, the ring is a macguffin. Macguffins, like all tropes, are not inherently good or bad, that are just dependant on the execution.

The ring works because of it’s connections to LotR’s themes about the corruption of power and sacrifice in the face of overwhelming evil.

The Veil doesn’t work because at it’s core, it does nothing to advance our understanding of the Light and Dark as thematic forces.

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u/Mando177 Mar 02 '23

It arguably reduces our understanding of events

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '23

We know what the ring does, we know why it's important, we know it's history and we very directly see the effects of the ring on everyone around it... it's very clear why it's important to protect it. It's still a macguffin, but it's a good one.

The Veil is something we know almost nothing about other than it's 'important', we get to see it, we know that it somehow is amplifying our access to Strand and that The Witness needs it to access The Traveler... that's pretty much it. And it ended up being as much of a red herring as it was a macguffin in the end, as it's clear we were never meant to prevent The Witness from using it.

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u/k0hum Mar 02 '23

They can't tell us what it is now because as a live service game, they have to drag it out over the course of this year. Bits of destiny narrative can be great but I don't think destiny as a whole will ever have a good narrative. Good lore maybe but not a great narrative because the narrative has to make room for gameplay and in a live service game, grind. I think it's the need to have some kind of story context for grind that ensures that live service games can't have a great story ever.

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u/zqipz Mar 02 '23

The ring is very clearly not a MacGuffin.