r/DebateAnAtheist • u/Lugh_Intueri • 9d ago

Materialism is Debunked OP=Theist

Lawrence Anthony, a conservationist, had a close freindship with a herd of elephant at his game reserve in Africa. He had rescued and rehabilitated them and over time, they developed a trust.

Lawrence Anthony died in 2012. Two days after the elephant herd led by the matriarch traveled 12 miles to his home. They stayed there for two days, mourning as they do their dead.

The elephants had no material way of knowing about Lawrence's passing. There were no phone call, no messages, and no visible signs for them.

After this, the elephants returned again exactly one year later.

https://www.cbc.ca/strombo/news/saying-goodbye-elephants-hold-apparent-vigil-to-mourn-their-human-friend.ht

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/mind-blowing-power-of-love-20100925-15rl7.html

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u/ammonthenephite Anti-Theist 9d ago

So what? Unless you can prove a non-materialistic explanation, this does nothing to 'debunk' materialism.

You saying "I just don't know how it happened!!!!" isn't debunking anything. All you are doing is showing you don't know how it happened and you don't know how the scientific method or claims and burden of proof work.

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u/Lugh_Intueri 9d ago

No. The work is being done. Sorry for your misunderstanding.

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u/ammonthenephite Anti-Theist 9d ago

And you continue to provide nothing of substance. This is just another version of 'god of the gaps', nothing more.

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u/Lugh_Intueri 9d ago

Nope. I don't even know if it is god.

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u/ammonthenephite Anti-Theist 9d ago

You don't even know that it wasn't materialism. You don't know, that is the point. "I don't know" does not equal "materialism is debunked". This entire post is a waste of time, good night.

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u/Lugh_Intueri 9d ago

Everything is a waste of time

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u/acerbicsun 8d ago

No it isn't. You've been exposed as being wrong, and it's painful. We get it. It's a very human response. But this is a good thing. Admitting one was wrong is one of the best things a person can do.

Now you don't have to be wrong any more.