r/Conservative Millennial Conservative 1d ago

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u/Running_Gamer Conservative 1d ago

So it costs money to educate children who will likely serve the nation’s interest extraordinarily well? Where is the issue?

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u/DownrightCaterpillar Conservative 1d ago

who will likely serve the nation’s interest extraordinarily well? Where is the issue? 

The issue is the lie that you're spreading. Most of these 2nd generation immigrant households barely erase the debt that they imposed on society as children. And when you realize that the estimates we have don't account for the extra cost of providing them ESL classes, you'll realize that they don't even cover the costs of their own education.

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u/Running_Gamer Conservative 1d ago

Congratulations for discovering that educating new workers costs money.

People over the course of their life obviously build more wealth and contribute more to society than any ESL education costs. You’re also acting like the HB1 immigrants somehow don’t already speak English. I live in a town where a significant part of the population are second generation Indian children. Their parents knew at least some English when they got here and their children are all fluent and barely needed ESL. The majority of them are at good universities and on their way to contributing to society. The cost of educating them in English was virtually zero. Their parents have to know English to work here. How the hell are you working at an American company at a high level and not know English? It doesn’t exist. Their children are taught English by the parents and if they need supplementary ESL classes, it will only be necessary for a year or two.

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u/GeorgeWashingfun Conservative 1d ago

The point is we've already got plenty of American citizens we could spend that money on educating. We don't need to import a bunch of foreigners that destroy our culture.

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u/Running_Gamer Conservative 1d ago

And how do foreigners necessarily destroy our culture? Where are all these immigrants destroying our culture with their hard work and overwhelming academic and professional success? Does anyone ever complain about east or south Asian immigrants destroying our culture? Chinese, Korean, and Japanese people have been a part of America for a long time now. They’ve contributed to the country greatly and our culture is still intact. If we were talking about importing exclusively extremist Muslims, I would agree with you. But east and south Asian immigrants have historically not threatened the country at all.

And of course we should invest in Americans first. But right now, the left has supported a culture of mediocrity and DEI for so long that our education in this country is abysmal. And it doesn’t help with MAGA’s hatred for college despite its necessity for success in the white collar world. Since we don’t have enough educated people right now because the left loves DEI and conservatives abandoned our institutions of meritocracy, we have shitty gender theory graduates contributing no skills to the world and immigrants with those skills who are willing to contribute them and add to our society. Why would America not jump at the opportunity to correct our deficiencies while healing the wound caused by the abuse of our country’s institutions of meritocracy and social mobility?

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u/GeorgeWashingfun Conservative 1d ago

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