Trump Concerned If He Beats Kamala In Debate They Might Replace Her With Someone Good This Time

[u/thatrightwinger]

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-concerned-if-he-beats-kamala-in-debate-they-might-replace-her-with-someone-good-this-time

[u/CowanCounter]

🤣😆😂

[u/Extension-Cap-5344 → u/CowanCounter]

This.

People need to laugh in this sub. It’s depressing seeing all the negative concern trolls here.

[u/ConnorMc1eod → u/Extension-Cap-5344]

The concern trolls have a bot upvote army astroturfing for them. We had the same thing the past 2 cycles. Any concerntrolling should just be down voted and scrolled past

[u/mr_snartypants]

The talking point I’m seeing here in terms of “Trump needs to get in line/on point…Trump needs to calm down…Trump needs to “___”…”

I am not sure where you all have been but this is Trump. The ego, the rambling, the whatever, it’s all baked into the cake at this point. Just give it a break. Trump is almost 80, you crying about his ramblings on Reddit means nothing.

What a lot don’t realize is that this is the first time Trump is being seen/heard by a large swath of his base/core voters since he was kicked off all major social media sites in 2021. All of those that never followed him to Truth Social or sought out his statements are seeing him on TV, at these rallies, etc for the first time in years. He wants to reconnect and I would argue his supporters want to hear him. You aren’t going to change this tiger’s stripes, it simply isn’t going to happen.

[u/GoldenReliever451 → u/mr_snartypants]

They also just don’t get how campaigning works. Trump can get 100x more votes from a funny line going viral than by giving some boring stump speech about fracking over and over.

[u/Galaxator → u/GoldenReliever451]

Voters like you are why that’s the case, listen closely to each candidate and make an informed decision PLEASE

[u/Jusuf_Nurkic → u/Galaxator]

No it’s just an acknowledge of how mass democracy works when 1/2 of the population votes but maybe 1/10 know anything about politics. The candidate who has the best “vibes” will always be superior to one who’s some policy nerd to the average voter (see the Republican primary this year). Like it or not that’s just how politics works, vast majority of voters don’t have enough time or care enough to be reading articles after their 9-5. Thats the voter you have to appeal to, and unfortunately some funny joke is probably more likely to convince them than some policy.

[u/HuntForRedOctober2]

In all seriousness, trump NEEDS to hone in and get refocused like he was with Biden pre debate NOW. He’s all over the damn place at rallies. They could greatly benefit from being cut down by like 30 minutes. Stop attack popular Republican governors in states you need to win like Georgia. I don’t care about your childish beef with Kemp, I DONT WANT HARRIS NEAR THE FUCKING PRESIDENCY.

Honest to Christ, if there is a trump person lurking here, if you ever have the chance to tell him to shut the hell up with the kemp shit, PLEASE. I do not care if it costs your job. It NEEDS to stop.

[u/Boracraze → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

Very good point. I watched the news conference yesterday. Someone asked him about crowd sizes, and he went on this long ramble about how his crowds were bigger than Kamala’s. And, then spent time talking about the Jan 6th crowd he spoke to being bigger than the crowd size MLK had at his speech there back in the day. I mean, WTF? He does need to get on point.

His kryptonite is his ego, and he just takes the bait.

[u/dracostheblack → u/Boracraze]

He also said nobody died on Jan 6....

[u/CreativeTension891 → u/dracostheblack]

Does it really matter if nobody "died"?. Police were attacked and injured with bear spray, blunt objects, and fists. I'm not sure where and when the bar moved to "nobody died" so it's ok.

[u/BorcBorcBorc → u/CreativeTension891]

People did die on Jan 6th though. Only a few and not directly killed but yeah (other than the lady who refused to listen to secret service orders to back off and got capped)

[u/dracostheblack → u/CreativeTension891]

he made it sounds like it was a peaceful protest that's what he was implying so the 9 people that died because of that day do matter.

[u/weareallpatriots → u/dracostheblack]

Which source are we using for the claim that "9 people that died because of that day"?

[u/The_Asian_Viper → u/CreativeTension891]

I mean there is a big difference between attacking someone without killing and attacking someone with killing right?

[u/Fleming24 → u/Boracraze]

I'm still baffled how became the republican candidate again. Sure, people know his name but he was already voted out of office once and didn't change in any way (except getting even older). It really feels like an averagely competent and stable candidate would be all that's needed for any party to win in a landslide but instead it's a race to the bottom.

[u/Nightmare_Ives → u/Fleming24]

He has changed though. He's now a convict.

That's... something...?

[u/GeneticsGuy → u/Nightmare_Ives]

With this logic any of the thousands of DAs that exist in the United States could bring charges against literally any opponent in the country and charge them on anything they wanted with their prosecutorial discretion, then convict them. It doesn't matter if it gets overturned by the upper courts later, you get to call that person a "convict" now.

If you can't see that the prosecutorial actions of a hard left DA that campaigned on prosecuting Trump and finding anything, then bringing charges in a zip-code that is 95% Democrat, violating all legal norms to reach for any kind of charges possible, just so they can say "Trump is a convict" then you are allowing your personal bias to cloud your judgement. Everyone knows it was political prosecution to muddy the water and taint Trump's name to hurt him. It doesn't matter if it eventually gets overturned. In an election year, they successfully got people like you to say "He's now a convict." This is a manipulation, and you are either allowing it because of your bias, or you are allowing it because of the lack of will to question official narratives of the media. Either way, you are just allowing the media to insult your intelligence and treat you like an NPC. Be better.

[u/Nightmare_Ives → u/GeneticsGuy]

And why shouldn't they? Every retaliatory "impeachment" attempt so far has gone no where.

Where the fuck is Coomer and his take down of the Biden crime family? All this shit we got promised night after night?

He's either in on it and corrupt, or he's incompetent.

Either way, the prosecution brought enough evidence to convict Trump. Doesn't really matter how the Right tries to spin it. What happened to integrity? What happened to honor? What happened to leading our country to a brighter future? Where is any of that?

I say we need a better candidate or a better message.

[u/The_Asian_Viper → u/Nightmare_Ives]

That's just seeing things without context, like NY changing the law to prosecute Trump. Also, law is different from immoral. It was once legal to own slaves and illegal to sell alcohol. A conviction on its own without reasoning is a pretty weak argument. About Trump not draining the swamp, it's not that easy and some things cannot be done by the president alone in one term.

That being said, I'd rather have Desantis but I don't think Trump is a bad candidate at all.

[u/PaperHands_Regard → u/Fleming24]

I hate to be the conspiracy guy, but at this point it feels like Trump was a plant by the democrats to destroy the republican party. Yeah he won the presidency but ever since then it's been nothing but losses and the republican party has morphed into some kind of freak show. I just don't see how it ever goes back to being the normal Mitt Romney type of party it seems too far gone now and democrats could have a lock on the next 8+ years because of it

[u/weareallpatriots → u/PaperHands_Regard]

We're never going back to BLM Mitt Romney/Pierre Delecto or whatever the hell he calls himself. If Democrats tried to destroy the Republican Party by getting Trump to win, it was a catastrophic fail. Three SCOTUS justices and he remade the federal judiciary. That's going to last long after Trump is not only out of office, but long dead.

[u/Hardpo → u/Boracraze]

Same schtick as 2016. That's all he's got

[u/HuntForRedOctober2 → u/Boracraze]

The Walter white of politicians if you will. It seems like bafflingly he’s rattled by Harris entering and wasn’t expecting it. If he isn’t then he’s sure as hell acting like it.

[u/Jedi_sephiroth → u/Boracraze]

That's the point, he has no actual policies to stand on. He is just a small dog with a loud bark, no plans for anything other than Dems bad vote for me. Its not possible for him to win like this, Mark my words.

[u/Flexappeal → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

“I wish my candidate would stop being who he is so we can win”

[u/2pigtails → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

The Kemp thing is insane. Kemp is well liked in Georgia and it’s not playing well by the constituents.

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[u/PaperHands_Regard → u/[deleted]]

He's going to turn GA blue

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[u/silentkiller082 → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

I want to start this out by saying I consider myself to be a moderate. I attended a Donald Trump speech in 2019 when I was aboard my ship the USS WASP. They isolated the hangar bay from the rest of the ship and at 6 am we boarded back on through a separate make-shift entrance to the hangar bay for an 1130ish speech. I waited five or so hours and had a great opportunity to talk to about 4 different agents in that time. They pretty much gave us the run down of what to expect the visit to be like and we had opportunities to ask them what it was like being on the POTUS detail. Most of them had worked under both administrations at that time and said they loved what they did but said that Trump was difficult because you could give him the itinerary and he would go off and do whatever he wanted regardless and it made the planning very hard. After he was done they tried to usher him to the exit but he stayed with us for pictures for at least fifteen minutes and I laughed at how frantic that made the agents. I appreciate him for taking pictures with us but my first hand experience with him is he doesn't listen to anyone and he's going to do whatever he wants.

[u/njckel → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

Trump's biggest flaw is his ego. If he feels insulted by someone, he's gonna let the world know and insult them back. It's childish and not a good look. He needs to focus on policy and facts.

[u/BorcBorcBorc → u/njckel]

at what point will people stop making comments like this? this is who he is, and who he has always been. He doesn't do policy. He just does this. It's been that way for almost a decade now lol

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[u/he_is_rizzin → u/njckel]

What policy of Trump's is gong to appeal to independents?

As someone with a ton of student loan debt, that is my number one policy priority. Trump is not saying ANYTHING in that regard that would make me inclined to vote for him. I'm sure there are many like me.

Please spare me the, "oh you borrowed it so you deserve to pay." I don't give a single care. If Trump was smart he would be pandering to the millions of Americans with massive student loan debt.

[u/repthe5 → u/he_is_rizzin]

So you think the “smart” strategy would be to pander to millions of people with student loan debt, and subsequently isolate even more millions of people who don’t want to pick up the bill for something they didn’t borrow? All while the Dems promise the same thing so you wouldn’t even be exclusively swaying people with such a proposal. You think that’s the solution?

[u/Gunsofglory → u/he_is_rizzin]

You borrowed, and you deserve to pay. That's the entire point of a loan. I went to a local university and was $30,000 in student loan debt back in 2019 and paid it down to just $4,000 over the years. It's not the governments responsibility to pay your own dues.

[u/Woolfmann → u/he_is_rizzin]

Sorry, but no sympathy here. I borrowed some to pay for college and paid it back. I suggest you do the same. Welcome to adulthood.

The government is not there to give you a free ride. If you get your loans paid off, that means that OTHER taxpayers are paying for your college education and the loans that YOU signed for. Sorry, but that is in no way fair.

Buck up buttercup and pay your way.

[u/The_Asian_Viper → u/he_is_rizzin]

You signed a contract. It's your obligation to pay and not other people's. If you're in trouble, you should choose/have chosen a different career.

[u/BGOG83 → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

If you haven’t learned that this is just him by now…..

If he would just get his point across and shut up, he’d have gone down as one of the best to ever do it but Twitter and his ego are ultimately his biggest adversaries.

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[u/zerovampire311 → u/[deleted]]

I keep hearing people say “he needs to stick to policy and facts” and that’s what gets me. He doesn’t talk about specific policy beyond “this thing is bad”. He uses such hyperbole that facts are out the window. If he reversed these two things he would gain appeal with moderates, but all he does is double down on his base. If he doesn’t do SOMETHING to appeal to people who aren’t already voting for him he’s done.

[u/ACrask → u/[deleted]]

I'd love to have two legit candidates on the ticket. I'd love to see actual debate from BOTH sides filled with policy and beliefs. Unfortunately, there's only one sane choice that's willing to talk about policy, the future, and not lean in on the hate. Maybe in the next four years, we'll have an election.

[u/WorldOnFire83 → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

The issue is that Trump only wants "Yes men" around him. When left to his own devices, this is what happens.

[u/8K12 → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

This is my biggest issue with Trump. He digs his own holes and the media uses it to bury him.

[u/mrwendypeffercorn → u/8K12]

media doesn't even HAVE to bury him anymore, they could just say what he says again...

[u/jcmiller210 → u/8K12]

Yeah, Trump is a bull in a China shop and although that's funny more times than not, he does need to learn to reel it in more when appropriate to appeal more to independents.

I thought he showed signs of doing that in the first debate with Biden, but he's since reverted back to being the bull.

[u/kilofoxtrotlima → u/jcmiller210]

I’m an independent who votes based on policy not party. In most local elections I vote for both democratic policies and republican policies that I agree with.

However, I cannot morally vote for Trump.

What I really want to see is a GOP presidential candidate that makes me EXCITED and WANT to vote for them. Trump has never done that. They need to pick someone much younger with better policies. That’s what will get the independent/moderate vote. Not shit talking and unprofessionalism.

[u/Rebornxshiznat → u/kilofoxtrotlima]

This. I was excited for other republicans and overall support some republican/conservative policies and I’m sick of hearing nothing but nonsense and fear mongering from trump. I was hopeful for Haley and she would’ve gotten my vote for president. But at this point while I don’t particularly love Kamala. I’m a huge fan of Tim Walz tho and frankly that will win my vote this year. 

[u/mshumor → u/jcmiller210]

I think it’s his sense of confidence and insecurities at play. At that point, he was the clear front runner. Now he’s polling slightly behind, and for the first time this entire year betting odds are favoring Harris (though barely). I think when he loses his self assurance he starts going off the rails.

[u/steal__your__face → u/8K12]

That's your biggest issue? Not that he was on Epstein flight logs more than a half a dozen times, and also a child rapist?

[u/[deleted] → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

God, I just wish he could let things go and be less petty…. I agree man, he’s digging his own grave with this childish bullshit.

[u/nareikellok → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

As a non-American, it is just absolutely mind blowing. You are willing to ignore the obvious lying, cheating, absolutely disgusting behaviour as a person and rather have a completely unhinged and unstable 78-year old narcissistic psychopath in the most important job in the world than Kamala Harris?

I get the whole right/left stuff being way more rigid in America, but still…JFC!

[u/ImmediateKick2369 → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

Dude, she’s already a heartbeat away from becoming president today.

[u/itchypalp_88 → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

This is why Trump needs to lose this election. So we can get rid of him as our banner bearer and go back to the McCain types. Trump is just an embarrassing POS.

[u/pajme411 → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

Spoiler: he won’t. Trump is incapable of helping himself or being disciplined. I loathe a Kamala presidency, but with each passing week I just feel like the cards aren’t in Trump’s favor.

[u/NsRhea → u/pajme411]

I feel like this is why they were so caught off-guard by Biden stepping down, because he couldn't see himself stepping down if he were in the same situation.

[u/mshumor → u/NsRhea]

No this is definitely it. Even betting markets were swinging towards Biden dropping out. Yet trump seemed in utter disbelief and flabbergasted, as if he couldn’t fathom this extremely plausible possibility lmao

[u/HuntForRedOctober2 → u/pajme411]

He literally was for like the last 4 months of the Biden campaign. After the debate he fucking disappeared off the map

[u/Boracraze → u/pajme411]

I agree with you. All he has to do is “act” presidential, and layoff the personal attacks and name calling. All this does is paint Kamala as a victim to her base and moderates. And, moderates are who he needs to sway; not his already loyal MAGA base.

[u/Electronic_Annual_86 → u/pajme411]

The cards may wouldnt even have been that bad, but he is throwing them all over the place right now.

[u/BananaNutLunch → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

Trump making an enemy out of everyone he doesn't like is a problem? Huh. Never considered that.

[u/[deleted] → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

Agreed. It’s like he keeps on making decisions that Kamala can take advantage of now. He needs to calm down and try to appeal to all kinds of voters instead of insulting people.

[u/NoSonosProbs4Me → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

Kamala Harris is going to be your next president because Trump is too stupid to get out of his own way. He won’t be able to beat Harris in a debate and everyone knows it.

[u/TrumpWeird → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

Kamala Harris is going to be your next president because Trump is too stupid to get out of his own way. He won’t be able to beat Harris in a debate and everyone knows it.

[u/Electronic_Annual_86 → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

I still dont really ubderstand why he holds such a grudge against Kemp..

[u/[deleted] → u/Electronic_Annual_86]

Because Kemp didn't commit election fraud to flip Georgia back to him.

[u/HuntForRedOctober2 → u/[deleted]]

Dude post election 2020 turned me off to Trump really hard. I’ve only come back to the fold after he showed he could beat Biden in polls. I really really wanted DeSantis in the primary. Trump is also a massive reason republicans heavily underperformed in 2022

[u/[deleted] → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

Yes he's hurting for GOP more than he's helping. But people don't want to change their minds on him and risk hearing "I told you so", so they dig their heels in. 

We need both parties. We need real true conservatives, not right wing Christian nationalists with terrible unpopular proposals that only win them special elections. 

[u/NoSonosProbs4Me → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

Kamala Harris is going to be your next president because Trump is too stupid to get out of his own way. He won’t be able to beat Harris in a debate and everyone knows it.

[u/Thresher_XG → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

I agree, but his rallies have always been long. He did good against Biden in the debate, if he sticks to the same strategy this go around he will be fine

[u/sleeknub → u/HuntForRedOctober2]

If any Republican governor is a corrupt hack, by all means go after them.

[u/HuntForRedOctober2 → u/sleeknub]

Kemp isn’t a corrupt hack lmfao

[u/friendtoallkitties]

He's still hoping Joe will come back into the race. That's kind of sad. It's like granny talking about how much she misses the Olde Kountry Buffet.

[u/Prestigious_Slice709 → u/friendtoallkitties]

Absolutely. Joe was a pushover, but now Trump is the unwell old man among the two. Kind of impressive that it seems like Harris replacing Biden did more to Trump‘s performance or confidence than the near-death experience he had. I saw a vet post about how simply being shot at during deployment gave him PTSD

[u/raidmytombBB → u/Prestigious_Slice709]

Maybe he does have PTSD....and is trying to hide w random rambling sessions and the 'desire' to get Biden back. Maybe he can't focus on kamala bc his mind can't get past being shot at?

[u/atrainedbear → u/friendtoallkitties]

Let's go Brandon, please?

[u/MasterSpliffBlaster]

He could start with actual policy rather than childish personal attacks and incoherent gibberish

Its not like Harris has a flawless past four years as VP yet he spends time creating nick names and suggesting dems are advocating murdering new borns under the rouse of abortion law

There is no way he should have blown the psition he was in after being shot at and biden stepping down a broken man, yet here we are staring down a potential massacre

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[u/top_scorah19]

He’s s vetting all their candidates for them😂😂😂

[u/max_intense → u/top_scorah19]

Yep.

Can’t let it happen again.

Trump should not be trial and error for the democrats. Let the dems seal the nomination and then go on offense.

[u/[deleted]]

Third time's the charm!

[u/santareus]

I think it is advisable to provide Harris with ample time to make gaffes while Trump takes the time to come up with a great response. I found his concise and witty responses to be particularly engaging. For instance, during the debate with Hillary, he quipped, “Because you would be in jail.” Similarly, during the debate with Joe Biden, he remarked, “I am not certain what he just said and I do not believe he understands it either.” These remarks are highly effective in capturing attention and becoming viral on platforms like Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube shorts.

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[u/Boracraze → u/[deleted]]

I agree with you, and I am in no way a Kamala supporter. Trump can be his own worst enemy at times, and creates self-inflicted errors that are just plain avoidable.

[u/thatrightwinger → u/[deleted]]

/r/politics troll wanders in and makes the same "Trump is unhinged" comment that all the others do...

[u/nappiess → u/thatrightwinger]

Ehh, that commenter wasn't wrong. If Trump wants to win, and he can, then he does need to stick to the policies instead of the insults this time. Kamala being a DEI candidate means she can just fall back on the sexist/racist/etc angle far more easily than a white male candidate could, even if it wasn't true.

[u/cavs79 → u/thatrightwinger]

I’m not a troll. I’ be been a trump supporter in the past. Not recently though due to his and his VP pick antics and rants. He’s ruining his chances of winning

[u/earl_lemongrab → u/cavs79]

"How do you do, fellow conservatives?"

[u/Prestigious_Slice709 → u/earl_lemongrab]

It‘s true though? JD Vance has lower name recognition than many other conservatives out there. Also he called Trump an „American Hitler“. I‘m not from the US, but surely there are better candidates than a guy who has only supported Trump for the past two years in order to become senator? If the governorship of Texas were safely Republican, why not pick Greg Abbot? He has experience in practicing what the GOP preach, with the migrant bussing and border wall stunts he made (which weren‘t solving the problem, but applying pressure to the Dems)

[u/max_intense → u/earl_lemongrab]

Our FELLOW conservatives making sure we stay on track…

[u/thatrightwinger → u/cavs79]

It's amazing how well you use the left's talking points. It's as if you march to their drumbeat.

[u/frostyfire1990 → u/thatrightwinger]

Unhinged, rant, antics, JD Vance weird, that's all they have. "Were a Trump supporter in the past," lol he thinks we're 3 years old...

[u/WannabeBadGalRiri → u/[deleted]]

What do you consider to be “offensive insults”?

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[u/ARGENTAVIS9000]

you joke but it'll make your headspin when you see who our next candidate will be.

[u/Summerio]

trump should just let her ramble on.

[u/whitepageskardashian → u/Summerio]

and now’s the time, the time is now

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[u/caceman → u/[deleted]]

Symptom #1 of TDS

[u/Choppermagic2]

They will

[u/slampig3]

I thought babylon bee was supposed to be satire? This shit is too real

[u/Bacio83]

For real tho

[u/Cuse-Town]

She only agreed to one of three. Kinda refutes the whole trumps scarred narrative

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[u/nataku_s81]

I know this is a Babylon bee article, but I have been wondering a bit about going to hard after her VP pick to early. I don't think you want her to change VPs, save some ammunition for later.

I don't actually know if she can change VP's, or how that might be perceived. But I imagine with a compliant media it wouldn't be all that hard for them to do at this point.