r/Aquariums • u/SphyrnaRob • Aug 17 '22
55000L aquarium epoxycoated and ready for water DIY/Build
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u/wubbalubbadubdub024 Aug 17 '22
Stock it with about zillion tetras
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u/breadknife004 Aug 17 '22
No joke though, imagine a huge school of about 2000 bucktooth tetra
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u/RoutSpout Aug 17 '22
Or 1 betta
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u/reversbathrub Aug 17 '22
Still too small for a beta
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u/PersonalNewestAcct Aug 17 '22
I know I'll get hate for this because everybody thinks you can't keep bettas together but you actually can if they're females. A tank this size could probably have 1.5 or 2 females comfortably.
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u/gwjames17 Aug 18 '22
Actually this guy’s right. I have a swimming pool in my backyard (about 1500 gallons) and there’s currently 1 female betta in there
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u/NemoHobbits Aug 17 '22
Adds one neon tetra from petco, entire stock dies of ick.
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Aug 18 '22
That scenario happened to me but from petsmart. It killed two 14+" plecos I'd had for years.
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u/TheGameAce Aug 17 '22
Ick/Ich isn’t lethal, but it’s visual cousin Epistylis is. That said, it wouldn’t surprise me if the same scenario still happened with some other disease gotten from the store.
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Aug 18 '22
When BRS gave away an absurd tank a few years ago, a tank that could grow any coral alive with the serious lighting they provided, I only want to win so that I would be on live video asking them if it could grow some mushrooms and leather maybe a few damsels.
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u/Staff_Genie Aug 17 '22
Finally! A tank that's going to be big enough to really let my Amazon sword plants grow to their full potential! And giant Val!
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Aug 17 '22
I thought this was another post from that guy who's planning on putting bonnethead sharks in a tank similar to this one but this looks much earlier on in construction than the last post I saw from him. My heart sank for a moment.
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u/ImpulseCombustion Aug 18 '22
Guy with the mansion/villain lair adorned with children’s carpet and a stripper pole?
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u/Similar_Lingonberry8 Aug 17 '22
I love bonnetheads. Great light tackle sharks. What makes them more sentimentally adverse vs other fish? I hope I’m asking the question correctly
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Aug 17 '22
Bonnetheads are migratory and do not belong in aquariums, let alone the merely 10,000g tank that wasnt much bigger than this one the guy is (or hopefully was) planning on putting them in. Also his was rectangular which is also a big no for sharks.
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u/DangerPeeps Aug 18 '22
That guy was posting on a popular aquarium forum and it saddened me how literally no one (at least when I was watching the thread) seemed the least bit concerned about his stocking plans.
I keep fish, I love tanks, I love BIG tanks, but most sharks don't do well at all in glass boxes.
Huge tanks are wasted on most giant fish imo. Tons of smaller species would shine in there and be way more interesting.
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Aug 18 '22
Unfortunately there is a SHOCKING amount of ignorant people on these forums and even this sub. His posts get the criticism they deserve but also an equal amount, if not more, praise and upvotes from people who have no idea how horrible what he is doing actually is. It's really sad.
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u/Chcknndlsndwch Aug 17 '22
Some creatures just don’t belong in a tank. You may have a slightly different opinion on what those creatures are but a majority of people agree that sharks are on that list.
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u/Similar_Lingonberry8 Aug 17 '22
I feel that way about most anything in a tank or a cage. I enjoy seeing them, not as captives, but so many I get to see are. My wife had her first Fox sighting on the beach this week. She was thrilled until I told her he was trying to get eggs from the turtle nests.
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u/Chcknndlsndwch Aug 17 '22
I am in support of most smaller fish in the aquarium hobby assuming they are responsibly sourced. Seeing a group of tetras in an appropriately sized tank doesn’t make me sad at all. Sharks, octopus, dolphins/whales, and arowana make me sad. There is no tank big enough. The only time I like to see them in a tank is at certain conservation aquariums. (Fuck seaworld though)
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u/crazy1david Aug 18 '22
Shout out to every cat/dog stuck in a 1 bedroom apartment not big enough for the human to begin with.
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u/dicesaresaurus Aug 18 '22
Bonnetheads are pretty sensitive species and any obligate RAM breathing elasmo neeeeeeeeeds to have rounded walls, hard corners are an absolute no no. Bonnets especially with their thin, easily damaged cephalofoil.
To the comments about how inhumane it is to keep animals in cages, first seems like a weird subreddit to be on? Second, while lots of animals are highly migratory this is out of food availability and finding ideal environmental parameters. They don’t migrate because they want to it’s because they HAVE to. The best way it was described to me was, you could give a bird all of the room to fly it could want but if you provided everything it needed, food, water, proper breeding conditions, and mental stimulation they would never fly again because flying requires a HUGE amount of energy. While arguments can be made for highly intelligent species in captivity (like orangutans), fishes cognitive capabilities consist of food, safety, and mating. caveat as long as they are ethically sourced, but there are still a lot of large fish species bred in captivity, bonnets are amongst them.
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u/ApollosBrassNuggets Aug 18 '22
It's weird to see such a heavy anti-captivity stance in this sub. u/crazy1david put it perfectly. Everyone loves to get up in arms over fish in tanks, but none say a word about the dogs kept in tiny studio apartments with no yard.
Also worth noting that the aquarium hobby does tons for conservation. A few species have been preserved thanks to the hobby and "people keeping them in cages."
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Aug 18 '22
I remember that! Did they ever end up finishing the post? It was a crazy expensive house with a specially built shark tank (with frickin' lasers attached to their heads!).
I want to know, not because I want to go there and be eaten by the sharks, it's for another reason.
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u/FANTOMphoenix Aug 18 '22
That’s why I came to the comments lol.
I’m hoping this person actually makes good decisions.
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u/bubblegum_horror Aug 17 '22
This is awesome!! What are your stocking plans?
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u/microfishy Aug 17 '22
Give me a rebreather and I will live in there.
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u/rpkarma Aug 17 '22
A single betta I hope
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u/OneLostOstrich Aug 18 '22
That's CRUEL! It's too small! Are you heartless! Bettas need space to reach emotional maturity!
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u/Syscrush Aug 18 '22
I think this is the same guy who is planning to stick with bonnet head sharks.
This tank is too small and badly shaped for sharks.
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u/Whoreforfishing Aug 17 '22
Yeah pretty sure this is the same dude who popped up a few months ago and everyone went off on him cause he said he was gonna put sharks in
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u/sturdybutter Aug 18 '22
It is. And that is why he isn’t replying. And if he does he’ll only reply to stuff not asking what he’s stocking.
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u/winkywoo75 Aug 17 '22
how many shrimp could i have in there ?
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u/microfishy Aug 17 '22
50-100 CRS, or 50-100 bamboo, or 853,620,640,000 neocaridina, or 1 mantis
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u/Craftyskills17 Aug 17 '22
Bro how many sea monkeys
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u/microfishy Aug 17 '22
I don't know because no matter what I fucking do the assholes die within two weeks.
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u/darrylzuk Aug 17 '22
None. After the single betta, anything additional would be severely overstocking it.
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u/error101namenotfound Aug 18 '22
A BETTA?!?!?! maybye a temporary tank for a single shrimp, BUT A BETTA IS JUST PLAIN FISH ABUSE.
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u/BlazingCondor Aug 17 '22
I feel like whenever I see these kind of tanks there's always some big fish in there.
If I ever did it, it would be a huge Amazonian planted tank. Huge schools of Cardinal Tetras and other tiny fish.
And of course 1 betta.
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u/the-greenest-thumb Aug 17 '22
Yea, absolutely massive schools of tetras would be amazing!
I'd also do a huge school of cories for the bottom too, they'd look so cool if there were like hundreds of them. It'd be like a living carpet.
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u/12fishinatrenchcoat Aug 18 '22
I could never get a tank like this because I would 100x just turn it into a massive shrimp tank lmao, maybe I’d put some glowlight tetras in there too bey I’m mainly in it for the skrimps
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Aug 17 '22
Imagine getting a snail infestation and need to bomb the tank
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u/IcarianSkies Aug 17 '22
Just buy a horde of yoyo loaches. No more snails and now you have loaches. Win-win.
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u/Peti715 Aug 17 '22
Or Assassin snails they will eat extra fish food and look pretty and do not breed fast.
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u/ayyyt Aug 18 '22
Sounds like a great idea until you get one and all they is sit there and eat with the other snails💀
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u/Peti715 Aug 18 '22 edited Aug 18 '22
They don't do that, they eat every other (non assassin) snail. They are very efficient also.
But yeah that'd be funny, but it wouldn't happen.
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u/ayyyt Aug 18 '22
It's a joke. I have an assassin snail and it does exactly that. Have seen other people's do the same. Some are efficient some aren't
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u/SphyrnaRob Aug 18 '22
Dear people,
I don't have time to read all the comments.
If I had the time I was not able to built this aquarium.
I'm located in Belgium and graduated as a biologist.
I was involved in some ecotoxicology studies using elasmobranchs as a model organism.
I really like elasmobranchs because they use a different physiologically system to keep their osmoregulation in balance in saltwater.
It's so nice to see how they evolved.
Since I was 13 I dreamed about it.
First did my studies, then saving money, and then building the dream.
It will be a saltwater aquarium for saltwater rays and a bunch of schooling fish.
Filtrationroom is underneath the aquarium.
I will also have a wall decorated with soft corals.
It will house only a few bigger fish.
Comments about sharks are not needed. I never said something about bonnetheads.
If I should keep a golden trevally. The aquarium is also to small after a few years.
But nobody says this is my only aquarium, and the trevally have to live in that aquarium for life.
Do you sleep in the same size bed as you were young?
Try thinking further then what you only see.
I am passionated. Running a saltwater aquarium is difficult, that's what is challenging me.
Keeping the fish is only the last step in my hobby.
Building the raw construction of the aquarium is not expensive.
The concrete and rebar are not expensive.
Glass is expensive. I also saved money to pay this.
Epoxy coating will last for life. Something that will last for life is never expensive.
Buying a new car is more expensive then what you see in my pictures.
Regards Rob
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u/leafbee Aug 17 '22
Tank this size, it's got to be saltwater. I would love to see a freshwater planted set-up this size. I can't wait to see it when it's done!
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u/lasagnapanzerotti Aug 17 '22
How cool would a freshwater set up this size be 😍😍
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u/Whoreforfishing Aug 17 '22
God the maintenance 😩
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u/lasagnapanzerotti Aug 17 '22
If you can afford to build something like this, you could definitely afford someone for the upkeep :)
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u/NFTArtist Aug 17 '22
OP don't make the mistake of all big tank owners and get giant fish. Get tons more small fish
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u/throwmedownthequarry Aug 17 '22
So cool to see some large groups of small schooling fish in there.
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u/Lithuim Aug 17 '22
I'll donate one breeding pair of swordtails and let nature take its course.
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Aug 17 '22 edited Aug 17 '22
I was looking at getting a 200 gallon with a tonne of Chilli Rasboras but the fish would have been more expensive than everything else put together. €3000 of Chili Rasboras!!!!!!!
Some other stocking options were also looking nice.
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u/NFTArtist Aug 17 '22
you could stock them over time plus with a tank that large I'm sure many fish will breed
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Aug 17 '22
Yeah. I could probably get another tank, cheap second hand breed a bunch of them and put the babies straight into the main tank in a few groups then raise them up in the first tank for a while.
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u/mightgrey Aug 17 '22
A huge planted freshwater aquarium! With lilly pads and huge floaters and a zillion smol fish!
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u/WormiestBurrito Aug 17 '22
Can pretty much setup a full ecosystem in that tank with smaller-medium fish, shrimp, snails, other bottom feeders, etc. Would almost take care of itself cleaning wise at that point.
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u/SrNappz Aug 17 '22
How many big tank owners construct a 15,000 gallon tank, even large fish will feel minuscule here.
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u/mishrod Aug 17 '22
Before I opened this I guessed how many “one single betta” comments there’d be. I under-shot. Us aquarium folk really have limited jokes lol
That is amazing - with something like that I understand people would be tempted to have salt water for the diversity of types of fish and colours, etc but I would go with either new world monsters - straight from the Amazon and Central America region - OR - I’d want the most heavily planted tank. Keep it to rainbows etc and maybe some really large angels - and let the plants be a show. It’s bigger than some peoples gardens - you could really scape it out like an underwater plant world. I wouldn’t know where to begin.
Also there’s always the rainbow gravel, plastic shipwreck and a “no fishing sign” ;)
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u/TerrorRed Aug 17 '22
Please don't be a shark tank please don't be a shark tank please don't be a shark tank
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u/maxwellington97 Aug 17 '22
I saw elsewhere on OPs profile it's for fish and coral.
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u/coldvault Aug 17 '22
...Sharks are fish.
They also mentioned elasmobranchs multiple times, which includes...sharks.
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u/corpusjuris Aug 18 '22
“Fish” is such a paraphyletic notion that it’s borderline meaningless anyway. Just fill it with snails.
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u/AmateurEarthling Aug 17 '22
Yeah it’s not the shark tank guy. I don’t think he’ll be posting anymore. I really hope OP goes fkr some bamboo or some cat sharks. That would be my dream lol.
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u/MirkwoodRS Aug 17 '22
What makes you say that "shark tank guy" wouldn't be posting anymore? Did something happen?
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u/coeurdelejon Aug 17 '22
With the amount of (justified) shit he got I hope he either changed his life or he's at least too embarrassed to post again
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u/MonoAonoM Aug 17 '22
I doubt it. He usually takes long breaks between posting and has made it pretty evident at this point he doesn't give a crap about the advice people tried to give him. I'm sure we'll see another update from him in a month or so.
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u/TerrorRed Aug 18 '22
He gave an update recently. Everyone was shitting oh him and his colorful rocks lol. I don't know if he kept that post up, he posted multiple times to get the response he wanted. I'm pretty sure the threads got deleted.
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u/MonoAonoM Aug 18 '22
I'm honestly a little surprised at times that the mods allow him to post still. Not because it isn't good be an awesome tank, just in its size and engineering, but because of the comments just being the same mess every single time.
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u/thefishestate marine biologist Aug 18 '22
I believe he was banned after that last post.
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u/coeurdelejon Aug 17 '22
I hope you are incorrect but I think you might be right, haven't seen a post from him in a couple of months though that may very well be me missing them as he posts.
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u/Rcandydraws Aug 17 '22
Wait who are we talking about what did I miss 😭
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u/fishhook_flannelhoe Aug 17 '22
I’m adding info to the stuff the other person commented.
This questionable dude is building a pretty massive tank. 15,000 gallons or something, just absolutely massive for a personal aquarium. The shape and access hole is just like this posts tank. Some people really didn’t like that the decor was fake so there was some hate there. If I remember right it looks like you’re under a pier or oil rig with the big poles.
But the major thing was that he was making it into a bonnethead? shark tank. I think that was the species. They are “mini” hammerheads, but they still grow to 4 feet so too big for that tank. They are a migratory species so people are against keeping that species in a aquarium. The tank is also rectangular with corners and tight spots around the decor that the sharks could get stuck. So people were giving him advice on blocking the corners and switching to a smaller and non migrating shark species. The dude had a “I’m to rich to care” attitude that rubbed most the wrong way. It turned into a sh*tshow
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u/coeurdelejon Aug 17 '22
There's a dick that is building a massive tank but is filling it with a bunch of "fake" decorations and has plans to add an even bigger animal, a big endangered shark although I can't recall which species.
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u/Different-Step-3062 Aug 17 '22
Bamboo sharks tho, like 20, would be great For em, tjey sit in one place and arent active, id stock that with some predator catfish tho
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u/CloudyPlanet_ Aug 17 '22
Why not there is space enough for a whole school of hammerheads, maybe even some additional whalesharks
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u/mcskewsme Aug 17 '22
Where's the banana, because the scale is still messing with me
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u/shorty6049 Aug 17 '22
I just can't even fathom ever having the type of money required to make something like this a reality in my own life... so cool though
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u/SkinsuitModel Aug 17 '22
You could get like one whole goldfish in there
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Aug 17 '22
The goldfish police worry about little common goldfish going in 30 gallons, and then keep fancy goldfish with deformed spines, bulging bubble eyes, and endless swimbladder problems.
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u/the-greenest-thumb Aug 17 '22
I can't speak for the eyes/swimbladder thing as those are an issue, but their spines aren't actually that deformed. They are short yes, but they are straight. The hump on the back is muscle and fat.
There are also versions of fancy goldfish with longer bodies, they don't have swimbladder issues as they have more room for it. It's like the pug vs the new retro pugs thing, you just gotta go with the ethical breeders.
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Aug 17 '22
The spine is compressed, and that can’t be comfortable for them. There are so baby fancies that that need to be culled to get to what the breeders are looking for to keep each strain “true” to what they’re going for. I’m not exactly against fancies, but the goldfish community can be quite hypocritical as they’re literally always telling people to donate their beloved feeder goldfish if they can’t provide a lake for it.
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u/Acacia530 Aug 17 '22
Someone’s inevitably going to say it’s too small for a goldfish. . .
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u/Hydrottle Aug 17 '22
This is the smallest tank you can have for a tang. Maybe two. That'd be pushing it.
Sincerely yours, The Tang Police
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u/jj_sykes Aug 17 '22
I look forward to you putting Twenty guppies in there and someone saying it’s over stocked
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u/schwarzmalerin Aug 17 '22
I go in there myself. Gets scuba gear.
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u/wet-little-machine Aug 17 '22
fill it with a ton of soft corals, some fish, figure out a way to tether yourself in place so you dont have to keep repositioning yourself and with the current making the corals wave i’d turn into a prune from how long i’d be spending in there
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u/Fishtails Aug 17 '22
I know it'll have a bunch of medium to larger sized fish, but how cool would it be if it were just like a gigantic iwagumi style with schools of thousands of tiny tetras
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u/co_snarf Aug 17 '22
You need to make one post showcasing the whole build from start to finish when you're done. Love the updates.
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u/jtsfour2 Aug 18 '22
Where did you get the front panel? Do you have a write up somewhere of the build process?
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u/SphyrnaRob Aug 18 '22
Designed everything myself.
Got help with the stability measuments. That was needed for the rebar in the concrete walls and floor.
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u/Emilzabub Aug 18 '22
I need to know how much something like this would cost so I can plan out my life accordingly.
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u/PsychologicalPea2956 Aug 18 '22
Is this big enough for a tang? It doesn’t look big enough for a tang.
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u/Bunny-Tummy Aug 17 '22
I literally fantasize about having a tank like that.