Preliminary investigation confirms Russian missile caused Azerbaijan Airlines crash

[u/DomesticErrorist22]

https://www.euronews.com/2024/12/26/exclusive-preliminary-investigation-confirms-russian-missile-over-grozny-caused-aktau-cras

[u/BenjiSBRK]

I mean, they're currently invading a country, I don't think they care about the public opinion on gunning down a commercial airplane.

[u/Euan_whos_army → u/BenjiSBRK]

But maybe countries that are currently neutral on Russia will now start to avoid airspace controlled by Russia. Particularly Turkish Airlines, if they were to now avoid flying in Russian airspace, it would be a serious barrier for Russians access to Europe.

[u/fireinthesky7 → u/Euan_whos_army]

If they weren't already doing that after Russia shot down the Malaysian Airlines 777, I doubt this will make a difference.

[u/AnarbLanceLee → u/fireinthesky7]

Slight correction, it was Malaysian Airlines MH17, but the plane itself is Boeing 777

[u/JerseyshoreSeagull → u/AnarbLanceLee]

Yeah and they also shot down a Korean airlines flight that wandered into their airspace.

Honestly I don't care who shot the plane down. We need to help survivors and mourn the dead. The people that are neutral or pro Russia are PRO RUSSIA. There's no changing their minds unless it was the COUNTRIES PLANE.

Kazakhstan hates Russia. They're basically Ukraine.

[u/possibilistic → u/JerseyshoreSeagull]

This is the fifth time Russia has shot down a passenger airline.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_902 (2 killed)

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007 (All 269 killed, including Larry McDonald from the US state of Georgia's 7th congressional district. We have a highway named after him.)

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812 (All 78 killed. Joint Russia-Ukraine military exercise, missile launched under Russian control.)

4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 (All 298 killed)

5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan_Airlines_Flight_8243 (38 killed so far)

[u/Anxious_Plum_5818 → u/possibilistic]

That's arguably more than the largest designated terrorist organization.

[u/Gews → u/possibilistic]

In your links it says Siberian Flight 1812 was likely shot down by the Ukrainians, not the Russians:

"Ukraine eventually admitted that it might have caused the crash, probably by an errant S-200 missile fired by its armed forces. Ukraine paid $15 million to surviving family members of the 78 victims ($200,000 per victim)."

[u/possibilistic → u/Gews]

Russia was in control of the operation, the airspace, the equipment. They were the first to reflect and could have easily forced Ukraine to admit guilt.

[u/Cicada-4A → u/possibilistic]

Sounds like a bit of a cope.

[u/ieatthosedownvotes → u/Cicada-4A]

The fact that Russia shot down so many sounds like it isn't.

[u/DaleATX → u/Cicada-4A]

LOL what absolutely massive fucking loser ass comment.

[u/Minimum_Diver4514 → u/possibilistic]

Wow! I didn't see any of these make headline news. What is the purpose of Russia shooting down passenger airplanes that come into their airspace?

[u/HuskerDont241 → u/JerseyshoreSeagull]

The have shot down TWO Korean Airlines planes.

[u/Bladder-Splatter → u/HuskerDont241]

Shit and S.Korea just took that? With military service mandatory I expected a stronger response but then I suppose any deployment risks Best Korea getting ideas.

[u/barbarbarbarbarbarba → u/Bladder-Splatter]

It was 1983. The idea of South Korea going to war with the USSR would have been as laughable as them invading the US.

[u/lembroez → u/barbarbarbarbarbarba]

And if current Russia did the same again SK would show 0 retaliation...

[u/Bladder-Splatter → u/barbarbarbarbarbarba]

Ah, I thought it was two in the span of the Ukraine conflict alone which felt mind bogglingly malicious.

[u/Aggravating-Cup3735 → u/JerseyshoreSeagull]

Fun fact! I took Korean air flight 007 to Japan two days before they shot it down ! Same flight path same number‼️😳

[u/F1NANCE → u/Aggravating-Cup3735]

That fact is not very fun ☹️

[u/Aggravating-Cup3735 → u/F1NANCE]

True!! My mom freaked thinking it was my flight! Made my dad call the airline even though i had already called them to say i arrived‼️

[u/Estake → u/JerseyshoreSeagull]

unless it was the COUNTRIES PLANE

lol, nah. Even if their own family was on the plane they'd blame their own government or the "west" (because they're the reason they "have" to do these things) over Russia.

[u/Antinetdotcom → u/JerseyshoreSeagull]

The Korean flight in the 80s was during the height of the cold war and has been called an intel-gathering mission to light up Soviet defenses and monitor by AWACS. There was a lot of info to support this thesis at the time, but still the USSR took a giant PR hit for doing so. It was a cold war game. Shocking to think of losing loved ones in any of these situations.