r/worldnews • u/Snowfish52 • 3d ago
Russia terrorizes Ukraine with mass missile, drone attack on Christmas morning Russia/Ukraine
https://kyivindependent.com/russia-terrorizes-ukraine-with-mass-missile-drone-attack-on-christmas-morning/3.8k
u/lovetoseeyourpssy 3d ago
Russia is a terrorist state. Vladimir Putin is a valid military target.
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u/sentence-interruptio 2d ago
Interesting history fact.
In 1909, a Korean resistance soldier Ahn Joong-geun shot Japanese prime minister Ito to death at Harbin station in Russia. He argued that Ito was not a victim of terrorism, but rather simply a valid military target.
Ito was a key figure in colonizing Korea.
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u/StrangeBedfellows 2d ago
Then Mangione could cite defense of others as his motivation? Cops do it all the time, we just empower them
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u/Ganbario 2d ago
There is no way Mangione gets off - the powers that be won’t allow it. Everyone keeps talking about jury nullification, but he’d have one night out the door before the oligarchs help him off a building. He sacrificed himself to send a message. They’re going to send a message back.
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u/Kestrel21 2d ago
If he dies, he'll become a martyr, though. I think they'd rather throw him in prison, where people will eventually forget about him.
Depends on how scared they are, tho. Scared people are stupid people.
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u/Confident-Potato2305 2d ago
the level of security he must have would be fascinating to know about. i bet he lives most of his life underground
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u/grchelp2018 2d ago
Not very different to US presidential security I think.
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u/dhero27 2d ago
I mean the US is a little different as Putin has found out, when it comes to military operations. Still believe we’re probably 30-40 years ahead in defense tech. Ukraine just put it out for the world to see. If you were constantly monitored you’d probably be underground too, considering the US military could probably make him disappear with a simple command. When it’s going to happen is another question.
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u/cryonine 2d ago
I think this is what this is what you meant, but just to be clear, Ukraine isn't using modern US equipment, let alone current or developing technology. They're using the old stuff we don't need.
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u/grchelp2018 2d ago
I don't think that matters too much for protecting individuals. Its all the same principles of locking down the area and controlling access to the person.
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u/West_Doughnut_901 3d ago
Anyone who works for ruzzian military is a valid military target. Including students who build drones.
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u/ConfidentIy 2d ago edited 1d ago
The guy does not know those emotions. Fuck him. But him alone. Not his sons. The kids haven't done anything yet and shouldn't have to pay for the father's sins.
I understand your sentiment. But an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
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u/ACanadianNoob 2d ago
In most cases I'd agree with you but it's likely that his family is indoctrinated into his ideals and history will repeat itself in the future if you leave them alone completely.
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u/NoProblemsHere 3d ago
Okay, this is the second time I'm hearing about explosive e-scooters today. Did I miss something?
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u/Briak 3d ago
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/explosion-moscow-russian-killed-1.7412289
A senior Russian general was killed Tuesday by a bomb hidden in a scooter outside his apartment building in Moscow, a day after Ukraine's security agency levelled criminal charges against him.
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u/Shadowlance23 3d ago
I didn't think I could hate that cunt more than I already do.
I was wrong.
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u/WafflePartyOrgy 3d ago
I swear I'm just mostly living these days for something really, unimaginably bad to happen to these people in the interest of universal karma. It never does though. I've surmised that the universe is into delaying gratification in geologic time.
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u/linecraftman 2d ago
I mean the cunt is like 70 He'll die eventually or get Alzheimer's or something else
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u/Dry-Address6194 2d ago
the sad thing is he has backup cunts to carry the torch. Looking at you Medvedev,,,,,
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u/linecraftman 2d ago
I think the backup cunts will be fighting within for the place on top and will be too busy for shenanigans outside the country
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u/KN4S 2d ago
It's not just Putin, it's the whole of Russia. Putin gave the order, but many more Russians helped make it happen. The crews who loaded the missiles, the pilots who lifted their bombers with the cities in their aim. The generals and the officers that communicated the order and gave the location. All on christmas eve, knowing full well what they're about to do.
And the Russian population, sleeping peacefully knowing the absolute suffering they're causing their neighbours for no other reason than imperialist expansion.Putin is not the cause of this shit. He's just a manifestation of a whole country founded by hatred and bitterness, hellbent on pulling everyone down to their shitty level instead of ascending to any form of civility.
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u/The_wolf2014 2d ago
You do realise it's not just Putin? His entire military chain of command is involved in any of these atrocities, it's not all at the behest of one single man. Same with the holocaust, that was Himmler's grand vision, not Hitler's. That's not to say he was innocent at all but it's not always down to one man acting alone.
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u/Falchion_Alpha 3d ago
“Last bastion of Christianity” killing their fellow Christians on Christmas of all days.
Fuck Putin
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u/quaste 2d ago
Someone told the pope already?
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u/SinnerIxim 2d ago
100% agree. I think he's a coward who is afraid if he criticizes putin then Christianity will be banned in Russia
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u/BigBillyBass13 2d ago
You realize there is basically no Catholic presence in Russia, right? The Pope is unrelated to Orthodox Christians
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u/AgNP2718 2d ago
I think he's an extremely stupid person whose entire life is based on believing obvious falsehoods. It's a mistake for anyone to put any importance whatsoever on anything he says.
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u/waltwalt 2d ago
As an atheist I can't tell if this is critical of the pope or the whole religion lol.
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u/Huge-Sky-4231 2d ago
The last thing I'm going to do is listen to anything an 88 year old virgin wearing a cape says.
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u/ISB-Dev 2d ago
It's not Christmas day in Russia. It's just a normal day to them. Wouldn't make any sense to respect the religion of the country you're invading.
For example, when the US invaded Iraq, during Eid al-Fitr (a very significant Muslim religious holiday) in 2004, the U.S. military conducted operations in Fallujah, a stronghold of insurgent activity.
The US did the same in Korea during Chuseok. Chuseok fell on September 22, 1950. During this period, United Nations Command (UNC) forces, led by the U.S., were engaged in the Inchon Landing (Operation Chromite) on September 15, 1950, followed by the recapture of Seoul by September 28. These operations were pivotal in turning the tide of the war but coincided with the Chuseok holiday, leading to significant disruptions for Korean civilians.
To summarise, most nations at war don't respect the religion and traditions of the country they're invading. It's actually quite naive to think they would. The most famous example where it did happen was during WW1 - but that was only because both sides were celebrating the same holiday. You can bet that if they didn't, there would have been no Christmas truce.
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u/Oforfs 3d ago
FYI Ukraine and Russia are orthodox christian cultures, Dec 24 is just a date there, not even called "Christmas", they have their Christmas on the eve of Jan 7.
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u/flufaluphagus 3d ago
Mostly right. Most Ukrainians have accepted western Christmas since the war began. Source - am married to a Ukrainian born in Ukraine with much of her family still there
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u/CTS99 3d ago
I have heard that before, but is it really "most" Ukrainians? That would be a massive shift in culture
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u/Flameaxe 2d ago
I live in Ukraine and I would say it's like 80% of people that celebrate Christmas on the 25th. The other 20% are usually elderly who refuse to change
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u/beardicusmaximus8 2d ago
I mean it makes sense to me. If my cousins inexplicably started trying to kill me I wouldn't want to celebrate the same holidays as them either.
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u/ScoobiusMaximus 2d ago
Russian culture got unpopular really quickly when Russian missiles started falling from the sky.
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u/tecnicaltictac 2d ago
Orthodoxy is not Russian culture, it happens to be Russian, but it’s also Serbian, Greek, Ukrainian, Romanian, etc.
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u/RReverser 2d ago
Yes, and it was indeed a massive shift. It's been happening for years - since the first invasion in 2014 - but rapidly escalated after 2022.
Even my grandmas, who are deeply religious and you'd think would be most conservative, switched and told me that we should celebrate on 25th with the rest of the world.
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u/Tytoalba2 2d ago
If you want to dwelve into it, it's a bit complicated but mostly yes.
Now there are a few different "branches" of orthodoxy in Ukraine. Main one is recognized by Constantinople, alternative one by Moscow, with some interpersonal disagreement with minors branches and the rest of the orthodox world relatively split
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u/Leasir 2d ago
My wife was born in Mariupol and spent 10 years in st Petersburg. She says that Christmas is not the important day of holiday season, that's new year's day.
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u/Tytoalba2 2d ago
Inheritance from soviet union, it's kind of similar in Russia. Was in russia for catholic christmas and in china for new year, it was not a great choice lol.
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u/lesiashelby 2d ago
Not true, maybe in eastern part of Ukraine due to a huge influence of russia. In central and western Ukraine Christmas is very important and has a lot of traditions. Everyone I know celebrated yesterday.
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u/zigzagzuppie 2d ago
Plenty celebrate it today also especially ones with a Catholic background. My family had a Ukrainian living with us last xmas as a refugee and her family celebrated it on the 24th and would have a large family gathering.
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u/BigBobbyJenkins 3d ago
Ukraine changed to celebrating Christmas on the 25th December from last year
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u/Glavurdan 2d ago
Just because their churches are Orthodox, doesn't mean they use the old Julian calendar. A decent chunk of Orthodox churches switched to Milanković calendar (revised Julian) and celebrate on Dec 25th. Namely, Greek, Bulgarian, Romanian and Ukrainian
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u/dlebed 3d ago
Ukraine celebrates Christmas on Dec 25th. Our Christmas Eve was yesterday.
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u/InBeforeTheL0ck 3d ago
Meanwhile the Pope chastises Europe and Ukraine.
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u/Eddy63 2d ago
Yep that guy can't be taken seriously anymore, chastising someone who is defending themselves while not chastising the disgusting aggressor. It's like scolding the kid in school who is trying to defend himself from a bully, while ignoring the bully. To hell with the pope
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u/Elu_Moon 2d ago
He should never have been treated seriously in the first place. His authority is entirely made-up and built on the suffering of many people.
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u/waltwalt 2d ago
Look mate, 2000 years ago some middle Easterners killed a carpenter, so now we all listen to the man in the golden castle wearing a pointy hat.
This was completely unavoidable and we should just do what he says.
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u/Michucz 2d ago
I think it was Romans, other than that, spot on summary of Christian Catholic history.
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u/EroniusJoe 2d ago
Fuck the Catholic church. They've done nothing for this world but create misery for billions.
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u/dagnammit44 2d ago
The same guy who defends paedophiles? The one who knows how much abuse is going on and refuses to stop it, and who simply moves them to where they do it all over again?
Oh, also the guy who is part of a religion which is one of the richest institutions in the world, yet stands by as people die of hunger and cold and illness.
He may aswell be dressed up in a clown suit rather than those pristine, expensive robes.
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u/01100011011010010111 2d ago
I love that he denounced the closing of the US southern border with a wall, sitting in the Vatican behind you know, his walls. Hypocrite!
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u/Bunny-NX 2d ago
Just yesterday I saw the post of the Christmas ceasefire between the axis and allies, because it was Christmas. Today in 2024, I see violence and terror, because its Christmas..
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u/Jubjars 3d ago
How nazi-tier evil.
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u/kalabaddon 3d ago
not quite nazis at the time, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce there is precedent to not be a dick on Christmas in big wars.
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u/Vano_Kayaba 3d ago
They accumulated missiles for 2 weeks to strike on Christmas specifically. So it's not stopping/not stopping the fight
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u/socratesque 3d ago
Even the nazis upheld a temporary truce over Christmas.
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u/RecycledMatrix 3d ago
WWI, so not Nazis (yet.)
Hitler, serving in WWI, denounced the truce. Having a Christmas truce was a mix of spontaneous and the idea having been memed by the Pope.
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u/georgica123 3d ago
Russia doesn't celebrate chrismas on 25th . Neither did ukraine until a few years ago
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u/ProtonPi314 3d ago
It's fking time for the West to give Ukraine true fire power. Destroy a huge chunk of his military manufacturing and his military supplies.
Tell him if he continues to bomb civilians, the west will provide aenjoy advance weapons to overwhelm his air defense, and he can kiss his Kremlin, and Moscow will go cold, very cold.
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u/wannabe0523 3d ago
Unfortunately trump is going to be president
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u/ProtonPi314 3d ago
That does not stop Europe and other NATO members from giving them some great high-tech weapons to destroy their military production.
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u/MAG7C 3d ago
Until he starts blackmailing NATO to get them to fall in line. Almost certain to be a part of his concept of a peace plan.
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u/ThisNameWillNotDo 3d ago edited 2d ago
NATO absolutely has a contingency plan for trump. Europe realised its dependence on America was a bad idea during the first Trump term, evidenced by Europe making more of its own munitions for example.
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u/XXLpeanuts 2d ago
The far right is on the rise in Europe and I have zero faith even left wing governments will stand up to the US in any meaningful way. I hope you're right though.
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u/airship_of_arbitrary 3d ago
NATO literally took all of the power out of America's hands after the first Trump term and Congress and Biden passed a resolution that the US can't leave NATO.
So there's been some foresight at least.
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u/Aeri73 2d ago
trump will have a majority congress and so can pass a resolution they can leave nato?
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u/Mack4285 2d ago
If you read that, you must also have read that the US President alone decides how US operates in NATO. Trump can withdraw troops and bases from Europe. He can send blankets and waterbottles as response to Article 5. And so on. Effectively he can operate US as a non-member of NATO, unable to support allies.
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u/West_Doughnut_901 3d ago
The time for that was in Feb 2022. I guess west is just a bunch of cowards or traitors on ruzzia's paycheck.
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u/User4C4C4C 3d ago
Putin is a monster. Send Ukraine all the help it needs.
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u/West_Doughnut_901 3d ago
Quick reminder: majority of russians still support putin. putin does not commit all war crimes himself, russians do.
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u/towjamb 2d ago
And I would wager a majority of Americans either don't know, don't care, or actually endorse these actions. It's going to get increasing difficult to support Ukraine, so I hope Europeans step up their efforts.
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u/GuidedByNightmares 2d ago
Seriously Hungry should be kicked out of Europe. If they like Russia so much, go and crawl at Putin's feet.
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u/Walt-Dafak 2d ago
Yeah, I don't get how EU is tolerating a declared enemy, it should be kicked out and give the money back.
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u/Free_Crazy_5209 3d ago edited 2d ago
But hey, Ukraine is the bad guy for defending itself cough cough pope and others. Fuck Putin and Russia
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u/nerphurp 2d ago edited 2d ago
Don't let the sympathizers act like Russia didn't know exactly what they were doing.
In 2023, for the first time since 1917, Christmas Day in Ukraine was marked on just one day - December 25, the same date across almost all Christian faiths around the globe.
the majority of Ukrainians (about 45%) will celebrate Christmas on December 25 and only 17% on January 7, and 32% plan to celebrate twice.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_Ukraine
But for the Russia Stronk apologists, they'll strike again on Christmas in January
Russia strikes kill and injure several on Orthodox Christmas day
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u/MikuEmpowered 3d ago
Stay classy Putin.
Nothing says orthodox Christian like drone attack on Christmas.
Regardless how this war turn out. I'm curious on how fuked up the war Memorial is going to be named for this shit show.
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u/DrunkHomer 3d ago
I thought orthodox Christmas was on Jan 7th instead of the 25th?
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u/MikuEmpowered 3d ago
Oh shit you're right.
Guess we gotta wait 2 more weeks before we pass judgement on if Putin truly is a classy man.
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u/One-Connection-8737 3d ago
I'm pretty sure the Ukranian church switched to celebrating Christmas in December from January like the rest of the Orthodox churches. This Christmas Day barrage is probably a bit of a Fuck You in response to that.
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u/Trading_shadows 3d ago
It's missiles. Drone attacks are routine, they happen each evening, literally.
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u/rustoren 3d ago
Maybe not the US but probably that orange buffoon and his new sidekick who live there.
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u/macross1984 3d ago
It would be so nice if Ukraine can somehow muster enough drones and/or missiles to target Moscow electricity grids and put the city in darkness for few hours.
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u/einsibongo 2d ago
Reminds me G.W. Bush knew Putin was a good guy because when they met, Putin had a cross around his neck. How very Christian of Putin to deliver such an assault on Christmas morning.
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u/nerphurp 2d ago
The tailored story the Kremlin crafted about the cross is ridiculous.
And he brings it to his meeting with George W. Bush and tells him this story about how his mother, who barely survived the siege of Leningrad, his mother, who lost one son to disease in infancy, another son to hunger during the siege of Leningrad, who had him at an impossibly old age of 41, had him secretly baptized in the Soviet Union, how much her faith meant to her, even in the godless Soviet Union, that she gave him this cross and she then went and sanctified it in Jerusalem at the savior’s grave [Garden Tomb], and that this cross then miraculously survived a massive house fire when nothing else did.
And it made a massive impression on George W. Bush. And after that is when George W. Bush says, “I looked into his eyes and I saw his soul"
Excellent interview covers part of it.
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u/HarbaughHeros 3d ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce in contrast to probably one of the most heart warming War stories.
Putin putting WW1 to shame.
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u/ImJustARunawaay 3d ago
I mean, c'mon. Very different war at that time, very different circs and a one off.
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u/europeanputin 3d ago
one off because once the generals learned about that shit, they made sure that none of this would happen in next years/wars to come. Can't be a friend with someone who you need to be able to kill mercilessly. War is horrible.
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u/Acceptablepops 3d ago
Ngl I thought there was an unspoken agreement of some kinda peace fire on Christmas but I guess it’s unspoken for a reason
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u/Kitakitakita 3d ago
I mean, there was that time with Washington...
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u/Little_Gray 3d ago
Thats not a real thing.
People like to talk about the one time it happened during ww1 in certain areas but thats it. In other years chrismas was met with increased bombardments and gifts of hand grenades.
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u/HomieApathy 3d ago
There was some serious pee pee whacks haded out by the top brass for those peaceful exchanges
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u/RoHbTC 3d ago
It happened in 1914. The Canadians put a stop to it the next year.
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u/Little_Gray 3d ago
It wasnt the Canadians it was the germans that put a stop to it. Turns out people get upset and hold grudges when you try to gas them.
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u/RoHbTC 3d ago
I'm just going off of what I learned in school
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-forgotten-ferocity-of-canadas-soldiers-in-the-great-war
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u/greedy_mf 3d ago
FWIW in Russia Christmas is in January
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u/mjtwelve 3d ago
Yeah, I was wondering when someone would point out orthodox Christmas isn’t for a while yet. There it’s just another Wednesday.
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u/go-to-the-gym 3d ago
There typically is, but not for Putin
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u/rustoren 3d ago
Because he's just a pure evil cunt who doesn't know how to get along with other humans.
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u/georgica123 3d ago
No typically there is no chrismas truce. And russia doesn't even celebrate chrismas at the same time as ukraine
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u/Extra-Goose2955 3d ago
George Washington started the battle of Trenton the morning after Christmas while everyone was still hungover, so there’s that…
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u/Itchy-Guess-258 3d ago
First Easter of the invasion we got this https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-odesa-missile-strike-baby-6-killed-orthodox-easter/
So called russian Christian’s values
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u/Snowfish52 3d ago
The pure evil of Putin, how could anyone forgive that man. We all hope Ukrainians can stay strong, against the terrible evil they must endure, during a holy time, for the peaceful people of Ukraine. The world is with you, we all want peace and good will towards men. Hopefully 2025 will be a better year...
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u/Mysterious_Guide_846 2d ago
Man, it's just wild to see this kind of attack happening on a day meant for peace and joy. It's like these guys have no respect for human life or the holiday spirit. You gotta wonder how low someone can go, right? It’s just another reminder of the brutal reality people in Ukraine are facing. Makes you think about the resilience and strength of those still standing strong in the face of such horror. What do you all think the international community should do to help?
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u/TemporarySolution572 2d ago
Putin gets off on murder and suffering of others. He's a very sick man. F Putin!
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u/Shutaru_Kanshinji 2d ago
Russia is a terrorist state. Putin makes Osama bin Ladin look like a rank amateur.
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u/BarskiPatzow 3d ago
Isn’t their Christmas in January? Did Ukrainian church change their calendar?
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u/Blueskyways 3d ago
And yet certain political persuasions will laud Russia for being a true Christian nation.
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u/vinceswish 2d ago
Can't wait for the news that Putin was killed with a bomb in his office. Turmoil after would guarantee that Russia would be no danger to neighbors at least for a while.
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u/purpleefilthh 3d ago edited 3d ago
How the fuck...
President of United States doesn't condemn this?
Pope doesn't condemn this?
European leaders still meet with him?
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u/Jonnyplesko 3d ago
Just curious. Did the US not attack during Islam prayer periods during the war?
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u/Fdwest 2d ago
When USA does it then it's oopsie and lol.
When others do it they're terrorists.
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u/mgtube 2d ago
I am not saying that this is not a despicable act. Raining down hellfire on innocent civilians always is. However, it is worth noting that Ukrainians do not celebrate Christmas on December 24 or 25 like Catholics or Protestants. Instead, 72 percent of the population is Christian Orthodox, which means they celebrate Christmas on January 7. Additionally, New Year’s is a much more significant holiday for them than the previously mentioned dates. So, come back and comment again when Russia attacks during those times as it will be way more significant to Ukrainians.
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u/GothicBalance 2d ago
I will never set foot to Russia as long as i live. Will also tell my children and children's children to avoid the country and any business with them as long as they live. Let them become another North Korea and fade away into a zombie.
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u/remember_myname 3d ago
Putin is all class, nothing says he’s a dickhead more than this. Movie villains have nothing on this piece of human garbage.