r/worldnews • u/TheTelegraph The Telegraph • 29d ago
Putin's youngest daughter 'living in Paris under a pseudonym' Russia/Ukraine
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/11/28/putin-youngest-daughter-paris-pseudonym-luiza-rozova/10.3k
u/OutrageousLadder7065 29d ago
"Ms Krivonogikh, Ms Rozova’s mother, and Putin’s alleged lover, has enjoyed a surprising rise to riches.
She is reportedly worth £83 million, owns “several houses” in Monte Carlo and a yacht, and is a board member of Bank Rossiya, used by Russia’s elite to shift money around.
She also owns a stake in the Igora Ski Resort near Finland and is a director of the National Media Group, used by the Kremlin to regulate the output of its key propaganda channels."
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u/AyeAye711 29d ago
Is she single?
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u/spacemanspectacular 29d ago
There are easier ways to fall out a window.
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u/Economy_Sky3832 29d ago
Allow me to defenestrate.
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u/paynemi 29d ago
Normally hate Reddit puns but that one’s pretty good lmao
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u/Traditional-Reach818 29d ago
As a non native English speaker I'm eager to understand that one lol
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u/daydrunk_ 29d ago
Allow me to demonstrate. Defenstrate means throw someone out a window
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u/Traditional-Reach818 29d ago edited 29d ago
I had no idea there was a verb specifically for that. Holy crap lol
Thanks for the explanation btw
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u/0reoSpeedwagon 29d ago
The Latin root is fenestra (window)
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u/Ladonnacinica 29d ago
And finestra is Italian for window. I’ve heard Italian is the Romance language closest to Latin.
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u/PoisonMind 29d ago
A word invented for one incident: the "Defenestration of Prague," May 21, 1618, when two Catholic deputies to the Bohemian national assembly and a secretary were tossed out the window of the castle of Hradschin by Protestant radicals (the pair landed in a trash heap and survived). It marked the start of the Thirty Years' War.
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u/Veraenderer 29d ago
Allow me to share with you another fact: The full name of this incident is the 2. Defenestration of Prague. There were 2 other Defenestrations of Prague bevor this one. One in 1419 and another in 1483.
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u/LamilLerran 29d ago
In practice, this verb has two uses:
- Discussing the Defenestration of Prague
- Making jokes
Throwing someone out a window is a rare enough thing that it's unusual to need to talk about it seriously, and if for some reason you do need to talk about it seriously you can't actually use the word because it's obscure enough that some people won't know it (even native speakers)
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u/abutilon 29d ago
Maybe not as rare as you might think: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_notable_Russians_in_2022%E2%80%932024
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u/Metals4J 29d ago
Disagree. I use that word all the time. But it’s always in discussion of Russians falling out of windows to their deaths… which happens all the time!
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u/AvertAversion 29d ago
As a native speaker, I'm surprised to learn we have such a specific word for it
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u/aceshighsays 29d ago
man i used to be able to rap to the song... totally forgot the lyrics.
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u/HisDictateGood 29d ago
Her last partner fell out a window in a tragic unavoidable accident.
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u/Low_Ambition_856 29d ago
We've all been there, just hanging out by the window on the 8th floor specifically informing the world that we are not and have never been suicidal and accidentally experienced a tumble.
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u/PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS 29d ago
While your local friendly KGB handler muches down on a banana and careless drops the slippy peel by the window. Happens to the best of us
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u/tmacnb 29d ago
Anyone in Canada know if this "National Media Group" is connected to this the NMG that I have seen in Canada on FB and other platforms? They have all these pages like NMG Brampton, and for other areas, etc. But it is a page that has videos that seem overly Canadian in nature (super innocent) and then others that are political but don't say it out loud: videos of immigrants appearing to riot, crime, etc.. To me it seems like a bunch of videos trying to get people to complain about things getting worse.
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u/adamkex 29d ago
I did a little bit of googling and I found this: https://ca.linkedin.com/company/north-media-group-canada
It's clear that they're spreading right-wing propaganda but it's hard to say who they are connected to
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u/WergleTheProud 29d ago
lol they have four "employees" listed on their linkedin, two (at least) high school students, one who appears to work full time as a baker (no disrespect to bakers - that is hard work with long hours) and I don't know about the other because I can't be bothered logging in to my linkedin account.
Their website goes to a landing page that doesn't load (at least on firefox with ublock origin), their instagram has been deleted (why do they have a social media manager...) and there's another similarly named organization called North Media Group which is Canadian, and provides digital marketing services.
Something very fishy is going on, and it smells like Russian disinformation.
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u/RocknRoll_Grandma 29d ago
If only we had some kind of agency which looked into things like these.
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u/Nur-Anscheinend 29d ago
Don't think so, but google offered the autocorrect for Nation Media Group - owned by Aga Khan (of Trudeau bribing fame) - and apparently Mr. Khan and Putin and a bunch of Russian oligarchs all hang out together at Khan's yacht club in Sardinia:
https://www.unionesarda.it/en/sardinia/porto-cervo-putin39-s-quot-ghostquot-dacha-rc0ih439
https://www.unionesarda.it/en/sardinia/putin39-s-oligarchic-quot-statequot-in-sardinia-irdiglkd
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u/jeyheyy 29d ago
But how is that possible? Putin released his tax returns this year showing he is a completely normal politician making 100k USD and having 600k in savings. Did she win the lottery or something?
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u/the_fresh_cucumber 29d ago
Amazing how much she has accomplished at such a young age.
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u/PophamSP 29d ago
Nepobabies are just so brilliant! Just look at the people that will be the most powerful in the country in the years ahead. Praise be that our health and happiness will be in their most learned hands!
Sorry, just trying to see what it's like...I think I need to go shower now.
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u/merithynos 29d ago
So many "self-made wealthy" starting with only the tens of millions gifted to them by their parents. It's really heartwarming.
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u/CivQhore 29d ago
The fact all of these assets haven’t been seized is proof the west won’t do what needs to be done to break Putin’s regime
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u/dennis-w220 29d ago
You made it like the west is an united front under one united regime. It is far from that.
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u/evilpercy 29d ago
Sounds like stuff that should be handed over to Ukraine.
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u/Both_Sundae2695 29d ago
That's my first thought. Why even allow any of them to live in the west if Pootine is hell bent on destroying it.
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u/McENEN 29d ago
Even the most pro russian paid shills of the most pro russian parties have their kids study and live in the top enemies of traditional values according to them. Nothing new, if you look up the russian state media propagandists children they all live cosy posh lives outside of the great motherland. Thats why they will never nuke london or any of that bullshit, their literal children live there.
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u/XoHHa 29d ago
When Putin started the war, most of the elites were caught by surprise and had no idea he was going to do that. Putin, on the other hand, relocated some of his yachts to the places where they won't be arrested prior to the invasion.
So no, Putin does not care for the fate of the elites children. If for some insane reason he decides to nuke some city, the decision will most likely be made in absolute secrecy and no one will be warned.
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u/-Yack- 29d ago
Putin can‘t just press a button to launch nukes. That‘s not how that works. There are going to be a lot of people in that chain of command, some of which are going to have family in Europe. At the end there’s always some guy sitting in a bunker having to debate on whether he‘ll end humanity and during the Cold War we‘ve seen several times that people tend not to do that.
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u/No_Acadia_8873 29d ago edited 28d ago
I heard a former CIA officer who was previously a missileer in the USAF dude say it's impossible to be a conscientious objector by system design for the US nuclear launch systems. They get a code, they translate the code into a different code, and enter it. They have no idea what the codes do, and they come in about every 45 to 90 minutes. They could be launching the missiles in the silos closest to them. They could be launching the missiles in a whole other state because that command center has been wiped out. They could just be a simulation. https://youtu.be/O_1GJkqPDa4
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u/lordofthetryhards 28d ago
Pity to see the actual facts languishing with only 9 upvotes. I appreciate you none the less.
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u/hofmann419 29d ago edited 29d ago
Also, it's not like nukes are launched with a single button press. There are multiple people involved.
Each operator has the key to only one lock, so neither can open the safe alone. Also, each operator has one of two launch keys; once the order is verified, they must insert the keys in slots on the control panel and turn them simultaneously. As a further precaution, the slots for the two launch keys are positioned far enough apart to make it impossible for one operator to reach both of them at once. For additional protection, the crew in another launch control center must verify the authorization code and turn their keys for the missiles to be launched. A total of four keys are thus required to initiate a launch.
To be fair, this is the procedure in the US. It could be different in Russia, but i would assume that they have similar precautions.
Edit: according to a US General that actually visited a launch facility and talked to the Russians, they have just as many security features as the US, if not more.
Every question I asked was answered in depth, and the thing that struck me about going into their command centers, command-and-control centers, is that they are very much geared to a fail-safe mode. And what I mean by that is that any one of the command centers, from the national level down to the unit level, can inhibit the launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile.”
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u/IronPeter 29d ago
“former cleaner who is now one of Russia’s richest women”
Putin is a former public servant. Now he’s stupidly rich, and his once mistress is stupidly rich as well.
Aren’t Russians wondering from where those money is coming from? Spoiler alert: everyone’s pockets
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u/XoHHa 29d ago
Yes, we all know that and have known it for decades. Alexey Navalny spent his life opening the eyes of Russians and the world on how Putin's regime operates. Navalny's last big investigation, about Putin's secret palace near Gelendzhik has been watched by more than a 100 million people.
So everyone in Russia knows how this works
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u/frenchiefanatique 29d ago
is this investigation available online w/ english subs/dubs?
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u/wyldphyre 29d ago
IMO the best related video to watch w/English subtitles is Navalny calling up the members of the FSB who poisoned him. He masquerades as an FSB member who outranks the agents, and asks them to explain what went wrong with the Navalny-poisoning-operation. They quickly confess and implicate one another in the poisoning and recovery of the evidence, believing him to genuinely be a high-ranking official.
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u/charlesga 29d ago
That's indeed an amazing video.
After this phone call, Konstantin Kudryavtsev has vanished without a trace...
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u/raisedbyowls 29d ago
Yeah, there’s official subs and unofficial dub on YouTube, just search “putin’s palace”
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u/_kraftdinner 29d ago
I saw the other commenter told you how to access it but I wanted to recommend viewing it, both for you or anyone who comes across this comment. Navalny and his people have a good sense of humor and they have like the plans for Putin’s palace…down to the furniture in each room. For instance he has an entire room dedicated to remote control cars. It’s also not accessible by land, air or sea. An interesting watch for anyone curious about ridiculous amounts of stolen wealth.
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u/Responsible-Gas5319 29d ago
TBD we in America have politicians who only make 174,000 a year somehow end up being worth hundreds of millions
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u/CavemanMork 29d ago
Considering how terrible the west is, these fucks sure love spending a lot of time there.
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u/BananaCyclist 29d ago
Ever heard of that Russian joke about 3 Russian generals discussing where to bomb? Punchline is they eventually decided to bomb a small Russian village because any other big targets I.e. London, NY, or Paris will hurt their or the oligarchs' families
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u/Petty_Paw_Printz 29d ago
You know how every good Russian joke starts? By looking over your shoulder first.
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u/svendburner 29d ago
And closing any open windows.
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u/TheMadmanAndre 29d ago
And abstaining from any tea.
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u/the_short_viking 29d ago
And avoiding a guy with an umbrella.
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u/kurotech 29d ago
Self inflicted lead poisoning to the back or the head also
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u/Fritzkreig 29d ago
And filling out Official Joke Request Form 741-42069, in your rivals name.
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u/Musiclover4200 29d ago
Don't forget double checking your underwear for any potential nerve agents!
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u/Calavant 29d ago
Even if your window is covered with a thick metal grate... that just means forcing you through it will be a more entertaining experience.
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u/J_Bishop 29d ago
I'm sorry but what are you implying there? It sounds like you're indicating foul play.
Russian windows open by themselves, always accident, trust me
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u/ItsAllinYourHeadComx 29d ago
The person telling the joke laughs. The people hearing the joke laughs. The table laughs.
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u/Hegario 29d ago
IIRC it was about the city of Voronezh. I could be remembering wrong but basically it was also about how nobody even in Russia cares about Voronezh.
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u/ajbdbds 29d ago
Isn't the joke "bomb Voronezh"?
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u/food_eater69 29d ago
you are spot on, imma be lazy and copy it from wikipedia but it’s still hilarious
Lavrov calls Shoigu and says: Listen, Kuzhugetovich, don’t hit New York, my daughter lives there.
Shoigu, responds indignantly: Damn it! Peskov asked not to hit London and Paris, Medvedev - Berlin, Mizulina - Belgium, Zhirinovsky - Switzerland... Others of ours called, the list is long. Lavrov, where should we hit then if something happens?
Mmm, well, hit Voronezh, there are definitely none of ours there
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u/Baumbauer1 29d ago
I'm not trying to be funny but its just sad that Putin seems determined to kill more Russians and Ukrainians than Stalin
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u/DeepSpaceNebulae 29d ago edited 29d ago
There was a line in a book I read about an old Russian saying, “the first 500 years are the worst”
No idea if it’s an actual saying, but thought it was funny
I believe it was one of the books from the Long Earth series by Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter. Would definitely recommend
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u/positivcheg 29d ago
It’s classic comedy there. They hate USA but also anyone who has money buys iPhones. Children of wealthy guys get their education outside of russia. It’s so funny to watch.
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u/NA_0_10_never_forget 29d ago
Ahhh, that reminds me. China has been pushing their state-sponsored brand Huawei so hard, both domestically and abroad, yet Xi's wife prefers to show off her latest iPhone.
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u/hippohere 29d ago
In private many leaders, rich, or powerful from countless places love western democracies.
Many send their kids to study there as well as homes, investments, nest eggs, you name it.
The tough talk is just that, theatre for the masses.
It works both ways too. How many western leaders end up with close ties with the kinds of places they were against while in office?
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u/Vagus10 29d ago
Not just Russians. Chinese, Indians, middle eastern. List could go on and on.
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u/Content_Bar_6605 29d ago
The funny part is North Koreans. Kim Jung Un freaking studied abroad when younger. How fucked up is that that he's experienced the outer world, went back then subjected his people to starvation. Psychopath.
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u/roman_maverik 29d ago
The elite ruling class of most nations like this don’t actually believe the propaganda they create; it’s just a means to an end and a way to stay in power.
Osama Bin Laden studied at Oxford University in England and loved porn and video games.
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u/donjulioanejo 29d ago
I mean, they found a bunch of video games when they raided Bin Laden's Al Qaeda compound. There's only so many terrorist propaganda videos you can record when you're stuck in the middle of nowhere.
Even Al Qaeda appreciated Super Mario and Ratchet and Clank... probably why they don't get along well with ISIS because the latter thinks video games (along with other sources of entertainment) are haram.
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u/xerberos 29d ago
He studied in Switzerland, but he didn't really hang around with the other students. After class, his guards drove him back home.
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u/blacksideblue 29d ago
He was also a shitty student with a WoW account. He was basically a dweeb in Switzerland
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u/ActionPhilip 29d ago
You should check out Crown Prince Mohamed Bin Salman's steam profile.
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u/blacksideblue 29d ago
If its real I could totally see him sending out hit squads for anyone that powned him. He had a team engineer the virus he messaged to Jeff Bezos' phone and bonesawed Jamal Kashoggi because his words hurt his feelings.
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u/CMDR_Shazbot 29d ago
He had a team engineer the virus he messaged to Jeff Bezos' phone
He paid an Israeli security firm, that's like buying a cheat from a cheatmaker and calling oneself a hacker.
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u/ahulau 29d ago
Imagine, some troll rogue out there might have repeatedly ganked kim jong un without even knowing it.
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u/WatchYaMouff 29d ago
I think of this often! This completely defies their nationalist logic and supposed “superiority” because why the actual f would you need to be brainwashed by the west in order to successfully lead a dictatorship? I know that isn’t the main point, it’s just how is that not a glaring example of the entire regime being propped upon falsehoods?
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u/ahulau 29d ago
I'm sure that's when he was told the people are incapable of doing what's best for them, and they need the chosen few in order to protect them from themselves. And then he slept soundly in his bed for the rest of his life.
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u/Chicahua 29d ago
Nationalism is for the plebs, the ones pushing it only see their country as a well of resources
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u/Content_Bar_6605 29d ago
All I can think is that he himself doesn't believe in the hopium he sells. He knows what he's selling is bullshit. But the bullshit keeps him and his family in power. Communism in a nutshell. No such thing as 'equality' for all. There's always some asshole benefitting at the top.
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u/The_Void_Reaver 29d ago
Pol Pot went to study in France and got bullied so bad for being hilariously stupid that he went back home and started killing anyone who he thought was smarter than him.
Them spending time in the West doesn't always mean they're enjoying it. For most of them it's about education and not being close enough to use as political pawns at home, and has almost nothing to do with embracing the culture.
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u/Content_Bar_6605 29d ago
Never said spending time in the west meant they were enjoying it. I don't think he (Kim) embraced the culture, but it's definitely different then what they 'advertise' to their people right? That the west is broke, people are starving, in disarray, the entire world is much much worse off then their country is?
None of them knew it to be true (that capitalism is truly evil, that people were suffering, etc), but they spouted bullshit that kept themselves in powerful positions. What I'm talking about is the awareness of this fact.
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u/roastbeeftacohat 29d ago
he actually libralized a lot of laws related to... what was that again? oh yeah, purchase of luxury goods.
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u/DChristy87 29d ago
Misery loves company. Russia just wants everyone else to be as miserable as them.
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u/ionised 29d ago
- English authors: I will die for honour.
- French authors: I will die for love.
- American authors: I will die for freedom.
- Russian authors: I will die 😮💨
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u/Fritzkreig 29d ago
Russia really has produced some to the greatest authors; Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, Nabokov.........
There are reasons why they are so deft at writing about how life mostly sucks, doesn't sometimes, but it mostly does!
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u/GrynaiTaip 29d ago
The oligarchs want the commoners to be miserable. The elite are perfectly happy with living in Swiss or Italian villas, enjoying the views and top shelf wine.
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u/veryparcel 29d ago
Seems France may have known that when they gave Ukraine the go ahead on using their weapons within russia's border.
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u/johnnygrant 29d ago
The joke is they'll never nuke the West cos they'll be nuking their own families and while they may be evil, they are not that crazy/suicidal.
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Defense will know Russia is serious about nukes when suddenly all start making their way home
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u/Closefacts 29d ago
She looks a lot like putin
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u/randompersonx 29d ago
Yeah. I’d imagine no matter what fake name she uses, she must be easily recognizable.
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u/Isthatajojoreffo 29d ago
I've been to Belarus lately and around 20% of people there look like Putin.
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u/p0ultrygeist1 29d ago
To be fair, a lot of people look like a lot of people. My dad looks like Eric Rudolph but that doesn’t mean he’s related to him.
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u/Richard_Lionheart69 29d ago
She is definitely a PILF
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u/jdooley99 29d ago
Being romantically involved with Putin's daughter seems like a precarious decision, to say the least.
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u/TheTelegraph The Telegraph 29d ago
From The Telegraph:
Vladimir Putin has an illegitimate daughter living under a pseudonym in Paris where she works as a DJ, Ukrainian media has reported.
The 21 year-old goes by the name of either Luiza Rozova or Elizaveta Olegovna Rudnova, and was tracked down by a Ukrainian TV channel using leaked airline manifests.
She is said to be a love child from a brief affair between Putin and Svetlana Krivonogikh, a former cleaner who is now one of Russia’s richest women.
Ms Krivonogikh has previously been referred to in the media as “Putin’s acquaintance”.
Reporters said that they had tracked down the birth certificate of Ms Rozova, born on March 3 2003.
The father’s name on the birth certificate was not given but her patronymic name was indicated as Vladimirovna. Under Russian naming convention, Vladimir Putin’s daughters would take this patronymic.
The journalists explained that her alleged false names are also linked to Putin.
Oleg Rudnov had been a close friend of Putin before he died in 2015, and the report suggests Putin’s love child had simply been given his name to hide her true identity. Luisa Rozova is also a variation of this name.
The reporters also published photos and video from Ms Rozova’s now deleted social media accounts, which showed her dancing and pouting at the camera.
She closed her accounts in 2022 shortly after Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine, and after other users trolled her with Ukraine flag emojis and suggested she was hiding in a bunker.
In their report, the journalists compared her to photos of Putin in his youth and claimed that they were near-identical, although in an audio conversion in February 2021 on the Clubhouse social media channel, Ms Rozova denied any likeness to Putin.
“Listen, judging by his young photos, probably, yes, it looks similar. But, as it turned out, there are a lot of people who look like Vladimir Vladimirovich,” she said, using the formal address in Russian.
In the Clubhouse audio records, Ms Rozova also described her life in obscurity.
She said that she deliberately lives in a “bubble” and doesn’t follow the news.
“I watch, you know, fashion shows, I buy Vogue magazine. I like to go to a nearby restaurant and eat delicious pasta, discuss the latest gossip investigations with friends,” the Ukrainian report quoted her as saying.
Rise to riches
Ms Rozova’s mother, and Putin’s alleged lover, Ms Krivonogikh has enjoyed a surprising rise to riches.
She is reportedly worth £83 million, owns “several houses” in Monte Carlo, a yacht and is a board member of Bank Rossiya, used by Russia’s elite to shift money around.
She also owns a stake in the Igora Ski Resort near Finland and is a director of the National Media Group, which is used by the Kremlin to regulate the output of its key propaganda channels.
Last year, Britain added Ms Krivonogikh to its sanctions list for “constantly promoting the Russian attack on Ukraine”.
Putin has two legitimate daughters with his first wife, Lyudmila. These are Maria and Katerina. Putin divorced Lyudmila in 2013.
Putin is also alleged to have two sons with the Olympic gymnast Alina Kabaeva. He has reportedly been having a romantic affair with Ms Kabaeva for more than two decades, although he has always denied it.
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u/exploradorobservador 29d ago
lol DJ is a very 20 year old with nothing going on gig
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u/itube 29d ago
She has such a cool date of birth !!! (03/03/03)
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u/Interesting_Tip1151 29d ago
She’s European so they write day, month, year like this (03/03/03)
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u/Mndems 29d ago
I don't think you noticed your mistake. I think you meant to say (03/03/03).
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u/DDNB 29d ago
Best way to write dates will always be year first imo, look at this and I dare you to tell me it doesnt make sense: 03/03/03
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u/fiddletee 29d ago
Most of the world writes it like 03/03/03, I think it’s just US that write 03/03/03.
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u/su2dv 29d ago
Except when we name computer files it’s YY-MM-DD. So it’s more like 03-03-03.
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u/theshrike 29d ago
Imagine the security Putins kids must have, they’re prime targets for all kinds of people
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u/imaginary48 29d ago
Nearly every oligarchy in corrupt anti-western countries park all their money in the west and send their families to live there while talking about how terrible and evil western countries are at home. China, Russia, Hong Kong, various African countries - all the same story.
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u/Tren-Ace1 29d ago
Even North Korea lol. Kim Jong Un went to a private school in Switzerland.
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u/mycatisgrumpy 29d ago
The utter hypocrisy. Enjoying the western lifestyle while your own father works to destroy it.
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u/CannonAFB_unofficial 29d ago
Our boy Kimmy went to school in Switzerland. He knows what’s out there.
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u/Upbeat_Support_541 29d ago
I've always wondered about this. What was he like in school? Did the get bullied? Did he ever drop the plate in the cafeteria and got applauded? How does he view the world around his country? It'd be fascinating to spend a day in his mind.
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u/Suspicious-Story4747 29d ago
I remember seeing a post of the picture he took with his class. Apparently he was pretty quiet and was mostly interested in basketball. He also befriended a Portuguese cook and even flew him to North Korea when he rose into power to celebrate.
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u/GreatAnxiety1406 29d ago
They interviewed one of his classmates who was his best friend said he was actually quite popular and i think spoke highly but shared little information of korea, he was really good at basketball too. Infact this guy got invited as an adult to places in North korea almost nobody has been, like through hundreds of miles of underground tunnels made exclusively for kims family i think they were constructed in his fathers time, really interesting stuff. sorry i couldnt seem to find the interview but maybe others can
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u/malhas22 29d ago
here one of his best friends was portuguese, probably this one you talking about. The article is in PT but I guess you can translate it
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u/janniesalwayslose 29d ago
That was the most weirdly wholesome thing I've ever read. I truly do not know what to feel LOL
I wonder if refusing the position of power would have him assassinated.
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u/Dblcut3 29d ago
Is she in favor of her father’s politics though? Because if she’s pro-Putin, I cant imagine why she’d be allowed to live in Paris. It seems like a huge liability for Putin
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u/LLWATZoo 29d ago
Even if she's not, I highly doubt she'd feel safe enough to speak out against him. She might accidentally trip out a window or something
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u/Dark_Wing_350 29d ago
Why am I not surprised that this is the prevalent opinion on Reddit?
She's a 20-year-old woman, what is she going to do? Tell her dad to stop the war? You think he'd listen? For all we know she hates Putin and that's why she isn't around him.
How is it hypocrisy? It just makes you (and others) feel good to bash this woman because she's allegedly related to a guy you hate.
Reddit is largely socially progressive. We're told not to hate anyone for their skin color, sexual orientation, weight, etc. but fuck me, the immutable characteristic that we can do THE LEAST about is choosing who we're fucking born to, yet apparently it's cool to shit on people for that. We all better hope our parents are perfect angels or we'll be paying for their sins I guess.
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u/sonic3390 29d ago
Since when is it hypocritical to have parents? lol. You literally have no say in who your parents are
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u/matticitt 29d ago
She looks so much like if you applied a female Snapchat filter to Putin.
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u/spetcnaz 29d ago
The kids of the Russian elite in general live in the West.
Their TV propagandists all had homes in the West.
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u/Tricky_Troll 29d ago
The knowledge that his friends and family mostly live in the west is a good sign that his threats of escalation to nuclear war are full of shit. If his friends and family all suddenly return to Russia one day, then I would be rather concerned.
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u/gstroble 29d ago
The wealthy of Russia can make their own rules etc. but they still love taking their vacations, buying houses, and just living in the West with all their liberal laws and freedom of expressions.
But then they bitch about it to their own people and preach how “bad” western society is.
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u/IRONMONK1967 29d ago
Rich people politics. Rich families fight for more money so their kids can party in Ibiza and get high. Its all about bottle service private jets and sex
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u/saifly 29d ago
Lol why is every comment here sounding like an expert?
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u/Free_Pace_2098 29d ago
Ms Krivonogikh, Ms Rozova’s mother, and Putin’s alleged lover, has enjoyed a surprising rise to riches.
Surprising. That's the word we've chosen is it.
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u/GapMoney6094 29d ago
If she actively and genuinely supports her father and everything he does I can maybe see the hate but damn I’m not down to judge people based on the actions of family members.
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u/StonerCowboy 29d ago
Hitlers nephew fought the Germans for the yankees!
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u/HereOnCompanyTime 29d ago edited 29d ago
This is true but he wasn't opposed to what Hitler was doing, he wanted money and fame. He tried to cash in on being Hitlers nephew on many occasions, worked for Hitler then tried to blackmail him into raising his financial, social and work status. He left once he was unable to extort him further and realized he was in danger, then did the book tour with his mother peddling a book about Hitler that historians have shown is not accurate. He enlisted thinking it would get him special celebrity treatment, he ran the grift into the ground. Sorry I'm saying this all from memory so it's all over the place, wikipedia has more concise info.
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u/WalkTheEdge 29d ago
Dissatisfied with these jobs, he again asked his half-uncle for a better job, writing to him with blackmail threats of selling embarrassing stories about the family to the newspapers unless his "personal circumstances" improved.
Gotta say, some balls to threaten Hitler
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29d ago
"WE HAVE NUKES"
As I've said before, Russia won't do shit with their nukes, they all have children living in europe. Just end his regime already and stop letting ukrainians die.
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u/unWildBill 29d ago
Guy at concierge desk in Paris: Madam…(looking at paper) Tupin…you have another message from the Kremlin.