r/woahthatsinteresting • u/No_Role9162 • 21d ago
Creator of the Glock switch regrets his invention
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u/daverapp 21d ago edited 21d ago
Okay but what is it
Edit: thank you all for answering, you can stop answering now
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u/derFreundlichste 21d ago
it makes a pistol go from pew - pew - pew to pewpewpew. (it enables weapons to fire automatic which where not sold to do it.)
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u/Skeltzjones 21d ago
So like a bump stock for pistols? Sorry, I don’t know guns
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u/WorkingDogAddict1 21d ago
No, it's full auto
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u/icguy333 21d ago
No full auto in the building!
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u/Phuzz15 21d ago
DUDE NO FULL AUTOOOO
That's not full auto. This is full auto.
BRRRRRRRRRRT
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u/Fecal-Facts 21d ago
It's also wildly uncontrollable.
I had the pleasure of shooting a g18 and while fun it's so impractical.
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u/thepilotofepic 21d ago
I got kicked out of a range for destroying a light with one
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u/Fecal-Facts 21d ago
I mean that's on the range lmao
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u/thepilotofepic 21d ago
I kinda limp wristed it tbf
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u/Fecal-Facts 21d ago
I mean it's easier than you think with something small and automatic that's another reason it's impractical.
Even military m4s 99 percent of the time it's single fire.
Still those this shouldn't be as easy to get or make as it is.
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u/Pennypacker-HE 21d ago
Doesn’t matter if you’re a mass shooter firing into a crowded space.
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u/MayDuppname 21d ago
Things like that are so rare in most of the world it feels mad that this is normality in another relatively rich, civilised western country. And people fight to keep it that way.
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u/paleface_gringo_2 21d ago edited 20d ago
Why would Americans want to forfeit their rights? Why should I as a lifelong gun owner be punished for the actions of a few freaks. We've already had nationwide bans on "assault rifles" and they proved to have absolutely zero impact on violent crimes (they rose during that time). The vast majority of gun violence in this country is self inflicted then after that the vast majority is due to gang violence where the perpetrators gain their guns illegally. Banning the average citizens from their rights will only serve to benefit those that are not willing to follow laws. I live in a place where police response takes at the very least 45 mins, I cannot depend on the government to help keep me and my family safe from a would be attacker.
Edit: just adding that I'm leaving this comment knowing full well it will be massively unpopular and no amount of namecalling or down votes will ever change my opinion on the matter.
Edit 2: if you're going to respond with some smart ass quip rather than a genuine response then don't bother, I'm just going to block you if you throw any personal insults. I have no issue with people challenging my positions but I do have issue with juvenile personal attacks that don't add anything to the discussion.
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u/MayDuppname 21d ago
I expected loads of down votes for my original comment too. My friend, you're free to have your opinion and it is more valid than mine, since you live there and I don't. But.
Almost one fifth of your population are functionally illiterate, I learned from Reddit this week. You've had 385 mass shootings so far this year - more than one a day.
Countries with gun controls also still have illegal firearms, but far fewer, and they don't often have people randomly killing others in shooting sprees. In fact, it's virtually unheard of in Europe.
I totally understand that you have a large territory to defend against other people who may be armed, and that your approach is totally necessary in your situation, but it isn't like that in other countries. That's all I was saying.
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u/paleface_gringo_2 21d ago
First I want to say I appreciate the genuine and thought out response, more often than not when making a comment like mine it's immediately dismissed and just leads to insults being thrown my direction rather than an actual response. So thank you.
I wouldn't say my opinion has any more validity. That's the great thing about opinions, we're all entitled to our own no matter how ridiculous they are. ( I'm not implying yours is ridiculous btw, I get it to an extent when you look at the US from the outside.)
Almost one fifth of your population are functionally illiterate
Unfortunately I believe it's more than a fifth lol but that's a whole other discussion in my opinion.
You've had 385 mass shootings so far this year - more than one a day
When you say and read mass shooting there is an instant image that comes to mind. A psycho going into a public space with an ar15 and unloading on a mass of innocent and random bystanders. But the reality is that this is very rare. About 3% of gun deaths are caused by semi automatic rifles like the ar15. The heavy majority of these mass shootings are gang members spraying up a block of their rivals, most of which are committed with handguns like a glock. Putting a nationwide ban on these guns isn't going to curve the violence when the criminals are already evading the law when it comes to gaining possession of these Firearms. Making it harder for me to buy and possess Firearms isn't going to stop the gang members from getting theirs and continuing their cycle of violence that dramatically inflate these stats.
Countries with gun controls also still have illegal firearms, but far fewer, and they don't often have people randomly killing others in shooting sprees. In fact, it's virtually unheard of in Europe
That may be true but did these countries ever have a point when there was more Firearms than people? Becasue there are millions more guns than people in the USA. (That's registered guns that are documented ) and I wouldn't say it's unheard of over there (definitelyfar more rare), one of the most infamous mass shootings ever took place in france with illegal machine guns. These shootings pop up in Europe a couple times every year and with the presence of 3d printers gun violence is rising across europe. The USA is roughly the same size as Europe as a whole, comparing our stats to the stats of one European country isn't going to be even close to comparable because the US is such a massive and populated country. All in all, the gun violence in the USA is heavily created by one very small group and suicides (yes suicides are in the stats of most sources but are typically labeled as "gun death") but the media/internet would have you believe it's like mad max over here when in reality it's just not even close to that extreme.
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u/Brave_Chipmunk8231 20d ago
I'm sorry that person exists
Please don't judge all of use on how they are
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u/Old_Yam_4069 21d ago
Hopefully now angry people will realize there are much better targets to take out their frustration on. And all thanks to a healthcare ceo really looking out for us!
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u/Gamer-Of-Le-Tabletop 21d ago
So a bump stock is like a spring loaded stock. So when you fire the gun it recoils backwards into you, then bounces forward into your finger firing another shot. rinse and repeat.
So bump stocks don't make the gun full auto but it does make follow-up shots in rapid succession.
However the Glock switch allows a semi-auto to become full auto
Full auto because the sear is detained when the trigger is pulled allowing the hammer to continuously strike allowing rounds to be fired off as right after recoiling and chambering a new round.
One is an external force (Bump stock) The other is an internal mechanism
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u/lil__squeaky 21d ago
No bump stocks made bump firing easier to a less experienced shooter. the weapon still only fires one shot per trigger pull. a switch makes it so you hold down the trigger and it keeps firing.
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u/Pennypacker-HE 21d ago
Basicallt turns a semi-auto Glock pistol ( pull the trigger, shoot once, pull the trigger again shoot again) to fully automatic ( pull the trigger and it will fire in rapid succession until empty)
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u/drNeir 21d ago
Layman's terms, ya, it causes the murder machine to fires more ammo at a faster rate.
The gunpowder addicted will drill all the way down into the patent of Eli Whitney on gun parts to explain how this isnt that and that isnt this when the general answer is its the same or close enough to be the same for the answer you were looking for.
They will argue this subject into the ground to have some sort of relevance and rice paper defense for the need of such weapons when going to bathroom in their own house that has stone walls with no windows, a 18 foot wall with a moat filled with gators as defense against the neighbors porch light that has been flicking them coded message for the past week. They almost have the message.
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u/GnomePenises 20d ago
Maybe people get pedantic after the 10,000th time uninformed politicians try to infringe rights while not knowing the difference between a M240 and a box full of spark plugs.
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u/Tall_Eye4062 20d ago
A firearm is not a "murder machine." It's a tool for personal defense and recreation.
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u/Overall-Spray7457 21d ago edited 20d ago
Ok followup question. Doesn't this just make your accuracy horrendous? I feel like I would like I would rather have 3 or 4 well placed shots than just blitzing out my whole magazine.
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u/According-Touch-1996 20d ago
Depends on caliber and weapon. A pistol? Typically much worse off unless you brace it against something or fire 5 round bursts near the thigh, allowing it to rise until the last 3 rounds strike the torso. With a low caliber rifle? Much easier to keep on target, though bracing it will still help.
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u/NoFearM8 20d ago
The biggest draw for fully automatic fire in combat situations is for suppressing fire. If you’re trying to use a gun with ANY amount of accuracy you’d fire it in controlled bursts. Fully automatic fire out of hand held firearms is nearly uncontrollable
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u/2raviskamisekasutaja 21d ago
I don't understand why you'd want to pewpewpew when pew-pew-pew is almost as fast but much more accurate
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u/CappinPeanut 20d ago
And he thought this was going to help fight terrorists? Like, seal team 6 was going to roll into Bin Laden’s compound, but they only brought their glocks. Fortunately, they also remembered this little toggle so at least their clock is automatic, now.
Adios terrorist scum!
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u/TheFNKlashclack 21d ago edited 20d ago
Ok, since a lot of people seem confused on what this is. It’s basically an exterior mechanism that can be swapped for an otherwise unimportant part of a glocks mechanical function. Not knowing this guys story I’m suspect of his intentions. There is not a good reason to purchase a switch for a military force, since the full auto factory Glock 18 is available. Basically the switch functions as a switchable system that allowed an otherwise unconverted Glock to fire full auto. Copies of this system have been flooding into the United States from China, and are popular with individuals of suspect intentions and legal standing. Go on YouTube and you can find lots of evidence of how common these are, and how they seem to be ignored due to the places they are common.
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u/life_is_comical 21d ago
I'm even more confused...
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u/SanSeritsa 21d ago
Yeah this guys description is nonsense. It's a component that you can add to a gun to make it fire faster. That's all he needed to say.
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u/RoryDragonsbane 20d ago
Normal guns only shoot one bullet when you pull the trigger. This device makes them fire as many as are in the gun with a single trigger pull.
It turns regular guns into machine guns. Machine guns are very difficult to purchase legally, but these devices are much easier to make and buy. This is very illegal, but incredibly difficult for police to stop.
Gang members like them, but in practice they result in a spray of unaimed bullets hitting random passerbys.
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u/pandaSmore 21d ago
A Glock switch (sometimes called a button or a giggle switch) is a small device that can be attached to the rear of the slide of a Glock handgun, changing the semi-automatic pistol into a selective fire machine pistol capable of fully automatic fire. As a type of auto sear, it functions by applying force to the trigger bar to prevent it from limiting fire to one round of ammunition per trigger pull. This device by itself, regardless if it is installed on a slide or not, is considered by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to be a machine gun, making possession of the device illegal in the United States under most circumstances.
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u/NewVillage6264 20d ago
They are also one reason why gang shootings kill so many innocent bystanders. You get some 16 year old kid, probably with a heavy drum or extended magazine, pointing a Glock with a switch he's probably never shot before. Maybe the first shot or two is hitting the target but the rest is spraying into the crowd. There's nothing to brace against like with a rifle.
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u/fgtoni 21d ago
Invented it, made a lot of money and enjoyed all the pleasures it had to offer... Years later, with nothing else to spend, felt remorse for the impact on society.
I’ve seen this movie a few times
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21d ago
Reminds me of the story of the guy who founded the Nobel peace prize.
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u/ayetherestherub69 21d ago
Hey, Alfred Nobel actually did shit with his money to try and better the world, and created an organization for recognizing great achievements. Much more than this dipshit.
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21d ago
Right right but it took a premature posting of his obituary labeling him a monster to do it. There's no reason this guy couldn't do something similar
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u/ayetherestherub69 21d ago
Maybe, but actions define a man, and Nobel realized what he had created was horrid, and tried to do everything he could to fix it. I see no attempts from this man to do much, despite him "recognizing" what he made has caused the world harm.
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u/SpiderSlitScrotums 21d ago
What Nobel created wasn’t horrid. It had dual purposes—mining and warfare. He made mining safer.
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u/LilBirdBrick 21d ago
To be fair it was only relatively recently that switches started circulating around the streets at the rate they do now. Now in most major cities, teenagers are getting their hands on them, that wasn't happening 10 years ago.
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u/C1138P 20d ago
“Made a lot of money”. From something that’s never been legally sold on the civilian market and got basically zero govt or police contracts because fully automatic pistol and stupid and uncontrollable? And every Glock switch seen in the US is either illegally 3D printed or bought from China?
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u/sophomoric_dildo 21d ago
You can’t hit shit with a full auto pistol. He’s probably actually saved lives.
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u/RatMan314 21d ago
At the same time how many innocent bystanders have been killed by stray rounds. Here in St. Louis, living in the city, you can hear full auto gunfire weekly sometimes. Everyone’s got a switch.
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u/Eva-Squinge 21d ago
So to counter this we just need to arm about twenty bystanders with a glock equipped with a glock switch and 100 round mags and just let them unload into the neighborhoods where that shit is happening.
Surely even the really stupid ganglosers would understand the message, or be wiped out by the stray fire.
Mostly being sarcastic. Why the flip flapping fuck do we even still have fucking jerkass bangers with guns capable of firing 30 hollow points in their pants while body armor costs more than anyone can afford?!
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u/Argorian17 21d ago
If a device like that is popular amongst teens, I'm not sure that it's really the invention itself that's the core of the problem.
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u/Mountain-Tea6875 20d ago
If this didn't exist those teens would still have guns. So the issue remains.
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u/ExBx 21d ago
Nothing is over! Nothing! You just don't switch it off!
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u/Bomberblast 21d ago
Unless it's one of your movies
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u/Koalasonreddit 21d ago
He said clearly he only wanted it to be used on poor people in developing countries.
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u/ConfusedAndCurious17 21d ago
Which doesn’t even make sense, because if the military wanted a full auto pistol they would contract one to be designed, not toss in a mod on a semiautomatic. Why would they buy these when they have nearly infinite funds to develop or buy complete weapon systems? Also the use cases for a full auto handgun are slim to none when you have access to far better tools. I can’t imagine why I would want to inaccurately launch a ton of projectiles in a short range with little accuracy or control.
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u/Research_Firearms 21d ago
This came out the year after the Glock 18 was first introduced. Not every military is willing to spend a ton of money on the latest and greatest side arm to get this feature. It was ment so they could spend a fraction of that money to upgrade there current Glock side arms to achieve the same effect. The Glock 18 was not very popular for the reason of it being impractical and not accurate thus they no longer manufacture it unless specially ordered. We
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u/a_collier 20d ago
This was my thought and I chalked it up to flawed civilian ideas about how combat arms functions. I’ve carried a pistol overseas and it is simply a sidearm. The rifles we carry can go full auto but you’ll get destroyed by your leadership if they see a soldier blowing through his rounds. Tbh, most of an infantry companies firepower comes from the MGs. The riflemen are more valuable as maneuver pieces. If a pistol is being used everything has gone to shit and I’m probably going to be trying to use those couple precious pistol mags somewhat efficiently before I’m reduced to clubbing people.
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u/Mychal757 21d ago
Glock switches are illegal. I'm pretty sure automatic weapons required special license back then
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u/The_Conductor7274 21d ago
Correct, and yes you still need a license to own an automatic weapon.
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u/DudeitsFish 20d ago
Bro literally invented a smiple drop in auto sear. What did he genuinely expect to come out of it? lol
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u/Iwan787 21d ago
Whats Glock switch
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u/Dawn_Blade 21d ago
Turns a glock pistol to fully automatic So all you have to Do is hold down the trigger to shoot a full magazine of ammo
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u/evmanjapan 21d ago
For those that don’t live in America;
A Glock switch is a small, illegal device that can be attached to the back of a Glock pistol (a popular brand of handgun). Its purpose is to convert the pistol from semi-automatic to fully automatic. • Semi-automatic: In its normal state, a Glock pistol fires one bullet each time you pull the trigger. • Fully automatic: With a Glock switch, the gun will continuously fire bullets as long as the trigger is held down, similar to a machine gun.
The switch is extremely dangerous because it drastically increases the weapon’s firing rate, making it harder to control and more likely to cause unintended harm. It is also illegal in most places because it effectively turns a handgun into an unregulated machine gun, which poses a significant public safety risk.
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u/CollateralCoyote 21d ago
In all fairness, you can make an auto-sear at home out of .05 cents with if aluminum. Same for rifles. If this guy didn't make it 100 other people + China would have.
The real issue is the legal system being weak on these kinds off gun crimes. Usually because black individuals use them and they don't want to come across as racist or not "understanding the black victimhood."
Yet another example of how guns aren't the problem, people are.
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u/LivingHighAndWise 20d ago
I've fired a Glock with an auto-fire modification. Let me tell you it's like holding a scared cat on the end of a fire hose. Completely impractical unless your goal is to empty your clip in random directions as quickly as possible.
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u/CreEngineer 18d ago
I am an engineer and years ago I kinda intended to join Glock or steyer in the weapons department.
Almost all friends I told about this were shocked. I would see this quite neutral, I am just there to create, not to ethically evaluate my creation.
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u/ObiJuanKenobi3 21d ago
He expected the military to need to use an aftermarket component to turn their handguns into super unwieldy machine pistols? If this is true then that's extremely naive lol.
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u/KevinCW99 21d ago
They have their place. They make sense for a helicopter pilot to defend themselves in the event of a crash in hostile territory or as part of the defensive weapons of a tank crew who has to bail out after their vehicle is disabled.
But beyond these or other very niche uses they are a very limited in their utility.
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u/ralphbuffalo 21d ago
Yes you really need a full auto anemic pistol cartridge to "fight terrorism".
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u/Craigthenurse 20d ago
9mm is not anemic it is a good compromise between power and controllability especially in fully automatic weapons for use against unarmored targets (like most terrorist groups) in CQB.
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u/ButterflySpecial6324 21d ago
Yeah alright. Then he can donate his earnings to research or some shit.
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u/NF_99 21d ago
I'd rather be shot at with full-auto glock than semi-auto or burst-fire glock
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u/Msanthropy1250 21d ago
He essentially built more death into his death machines.
But he feels bad about it. So it’s ok, right?
Fuck off
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u/Green_Dragon_Soars 21d ago
Bro wanted to sell it to terrorists to fight terrorism but ended up selling to terrorists instead.
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u/BluePenWizard 21d ago
What military are you selling to that'll buy such a shit brand?
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u/CalibanBanHammer 21d ago
Oppenheimer ahh sentiment. "Oh no, the thing I built to kill people is being used to kill people, why the fuck didn't anyone tell me this was gonna happen"
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u/banjo_hero 21d ago
"made a gun thing for the military to combat terrorism" = doesn't understand terrorism
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u/griffs_charisma 21d ago
give to the US military to combat terrorism? Oh the irony… give the creation to the very source of colonial terrorism
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u/Bottle-Brave 21d ago
Apparently, the bulk of this sub thinks this is about the inventor of Glock guns.
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u/SgtMoose42 21d ago
Making MANY firearms full auto isn't very hard.
An SKS can go full auto if the firing pin sticks forward. Which would be trivial to do.
To the ATF, yes I own an SKS, no I do not want it to fire full auto, nor would I convert it to do so.
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u/TheNiteFather 21d ago
Guns were created for a single purpose and it was never for protection or hunting.
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u/AdditionalAd9794 21d ago
It's super simple, had he not invented it, someone else would have a month later
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u/UnMonsieurTriste 21d ago
I meant it as a good way of killing people, not a bad way of killing people!
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u/Dayreach 21d ago
The miltary already had access to proper automatic firearms that might even actually be stable enough to hit a target with, why did Leon think they needed poorly designed jury rigged automatic pistols that are just two seconds of uncontrollable bullet spray? This sounds like bullshit
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u/Lanky_Republic_2102 21d ago
Klashnikov also had some regret that a rifle he developed to defend the Motherland caused so much death around the world.
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u/tianavitoli 21d ago
my favorite was dudes in Chicago telling the new venezuelan gangs trying to take over territory
hey, over here is just like where you from...
'cept we got switches
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u/ZeusTheRecluse 21d ago
A Glock switch (sometimes called a button or a giggle switch)1])2])3]) is a small device that can be attached to the rear of the slide of a Glock handgun, changing the semi-automatic pistol into a selective fire machine pistol capable of fully automatic fire.
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21d ago
creates a deadly weapon modification that serves no purpose other than to kill faster
"Oh no! If only I knew the kill machine would be used to kill!"
Is he stupid?
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u/RaechelMaelstrom 21d ago
Did you know the inventor of the Gatling gun thought that by being able to shoot more bullets faster, with just one person, less soldiers would have to fight in war? It was supposed to save lives. I don't think it worked though.
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u/One-Run5782 21d ago
This is not the guy who created the Glock. That was Gaston Glock. This guy made the aftermarket fiddly bit to make the Glock squirt bullets faster…
Glock designed their own fully automatic pistol entirely separately from this modification.
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u/dangerclosecustoms 21d ago
Let the bad guys spray and pray and waste their ammo. Well placed aim shots win, not automatic magazine dumps in a pistol. So it does save lives. Just not those of the bad guys…
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u/Designer_Head_1024 21d ago
I think this is bullshit. Glock already had an automatic pistol, the model 18. Why would they need a different worse version of that??
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u/AThrowawayProbrably 21d ago
Breaking News: Man creates device that causes death & destruction: regrets device causing death & destruction
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u/mikki1time 21d ago
The 3D printer is more responsible in my opinion. Very few “switches” are legit Glock auto sears
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u/prettybluefoxes 21d ago
One mans terrorist etc. i guess he can donate his wealth to appropriate charities/organisations to help ease his conscience.
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u/AnonomousNibba338 20d ago
Honestly, he shouldn't feel that bad. If he didn't, someone else would. He just happened to make it first.
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u/Arnie_T 21d ago
But he’ll keep the money, thank you very much.