Semi-Weekly Discussion Thread - November 25, 2024

[u/tuesday_mod]

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Previous Discussion Thread

[u/JustKidding456]

On the one hand, the main message of the Bible ought to be of Jesus Christ crucified for sinners. Are these politicians going to teach the Gospel in public schools? This would require going around the First Amendment and I’m not confident that much of America would simply stomach that.

Oh, and no, I don’t approve of how non-Lutheran churches teach the Gospel (semi-Pelagian view), if I had a child I’d prefer my own church to teach the Gospel to my child rather than a public school educator.

[u/Spurgeoniskindacool → u/JustKidding456]

You think all non Lutheran's are semi-pelagian?

[u/JustKidding456 → u/Spurgeoniskindacool]

You think all non Lutheran's are semi-pelagian?

Not all, but most non-Lutheran Christian churches are semi-Pelagian in their framework of Scripture interpretation. In fact, I know some Lutheran pastors (quatenus subscription to the Lutheran Confessions) who have some semi-Pelagian influence in their theology.

Hymns like “Trust and obey, for there’s no other way, to be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey” implies that believers can earn their keep through obedience to the Law. Or the idea that one must show continual visible growth to remain within a state of grace. This kind of thinking produces Anfechtung in the minds of individuals conscious about their sin, such as myself and Rev. Dr. Jordan Cooper (he converted to Lutheranism from a more Reformed background).

[u/Spurgeoniskindacool → u/JustKidding456]

I agree with your concerns about songs like "trust and obey", I also think that what you describe is very prevalent in the reformedish Baptist churches. I don't see it the Reformed and presbyterian churches I have been involved with. 

Specifically this type of teaching:

 "Or the idea that one must show continual visible growth to remain within a state of grace"

Coming mostly out of those reformedish Baptist churches. (I would name names but I'm pretty sure you aren't American and all my names would be...)