r/tuesday This lady's not for turning Nov 11 '24

Semi-Weekly Discussion Thread - November 11, 2024

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u/No12345678901 Right Visitor Nov 16 '24

RFK has crazy beliefs but he does seem to be in incredible shape for his age. That alone will make his ideas about seem more reasonable, I imagine, especially when contrasted with some schlubby journalist or talking head. A similar dynamic occurred when fatso NFL writers wrote massive columns fulminating as if Aaron Rodgers was seriously putting his health in danger by refusing the vaccine. Of course the health establishment also did enormous damage to their credibility during the 'rona...

Related goofy RFK meme: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254542747138916484/1307134535837810688/IMG_1200.png?ex=67393366&is=6737e1e6&hm=3e8995c6da141345160204d2b615cf4a28f72842cf593a05dc136e02c1c1cf81&

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u/TychoTiberius Right Visitor Nov 16 '24 edited Nov 16 '24

RFK is in good shape because he does steroids, which means he is damaging his heart for aesthetics and he's extremely hypocritical about vaccines because he's willing to inject himself with tren, or HGH or whatever kind of synthetic testosterone, all of which have much worse documented side effects and have led to more deaths than any of the Covid vaccines.

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u/No12345678901 Right Visitor Nov 16 '24

No. You could do all the steroids you want and if you don't also work out hard it will make no difference. If you eat a bad diet steroids won't stop you from being fat.

I'm very far from an expert in these things but I don't think it's clear he's using steroids. He doesn't appear massive enough that it is impossible to get that way without roids. He is taking TRT though.

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u/TychoTiberius Right Visitor Nov 16 '24

I am an expert in this. I'm a natural bodybuilder with an FFMI of 23.5. For context the most recent Natural Mr. Olympia had an FFMI of 24.5 on contest day when he's shredded down to 4% bf. I say that not to brag, but to show my bona-fides that I do know what I'm talking about here.

Steroids are extremely common, way more common than the average person would think, and because so many people use steroids and lie about not using them (99.5% of all fitness influences and 95% of all muscular celebrities) people have an extremely warped perception of what a natural vs steroid enhanced physique looks like. But that are pretty simple giveaways. The number one thing is delts in proportion to the rest of the body. For whatever reason steroids have an outsized effect on delts and people who do them usually have noticeably outsized delt development. Another giveaway is the red glow some steroid users get. Liver King is a great example here. Just abnormally red skin. Both of these things were incredibly obviously in RFK when he posted that video of him bench pressing shirtless during the campaign, which is when I realized he was a steroid user.

Then later he was asked about it he said that yes, he's on TRT (which is a steroid along with all other forms of synthetic testosterone). Now the recommended use of TRT is to does small amounts to bring your test up into naturally obtainable ranges, but lots of guys will just ask their docs to boost them up to 2/3/4x anything naturally achievable and many doctors will just do this for patients despite the fact that boosting your test level above natural limits has no health benefits while have several awful side effects, including potential death.

RFK, at 70 years old, who only lifts 35 minutes a day for 4 days a week and has red skin with highly abnormal delt development is guaranteed to be boosting his testosterone levels far above what is naturally achievable for a young man in his prime years, much less a 70 year old. This is unhealthy and shortening his lifespan for absolutely no positive health effects, which is why I've always found the man detestable for being skeptical of vaccines that do not have a tenth of the danger of the test injections he's doing.

Sorry for the novel, I just think there's not enough discourse about how common steroid use is and it's only becoming more common with the new wave of young faintness influences convincing high school kids to get on SARMs (which unlike Tren or HGH, haven't even been studied and we don't know the long term side effects of their use for body building).