r/tuesday This lady's not for turning Nov 11 '24

Semi-Weekly Discussion Thread - November 11, 2024

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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor Nov 14 '24

Alaska is still accepting absentee ballots received this week. That is, ballots in the mail today, and received tomorrow, will be counted.

How does this make sense?

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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor Nov 14 '24

Why are you straight up lying about something that can be googled in 30 seconds? They have to be postmarked by election day

https://www.elections.alaska.gov/voter-information/absentee-and-early-voting

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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor Nov 14 '24 edited Nov 14 '24

What did I lie about?

If a ballot is in the mail right now, and received tomorrow, it would be counted. I never said anything about postmark. Because that wasn’t what my complaint is about. I don’t care at all about postmark. I care that we are accepting ballots after Election Day.

Youre projecting something you think I said, that I didn’t actually say. And calling me a liar while misrepresenting it too. Not cool.

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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor Nov 14 '24

I was charitably assuming you were saying something sensibly untoward was happening, since accepting ballots mailed after election day would probably be unconstitutional. I did not think you could possibly be implying it was bad for Alaska, along with the 20 other states that do this, to accept ballots that were essentially cast on or before election day.

It makes sense because if you mail a ballot on election day, it means you necessarily did not vote after election day

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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor Nov 14 '24

It is bad. Turning Election Day into election two weeks is bad. The 20 other states that also do this are wrong.

Nothing untoward is happening. The system is dumb. It makes no sense that now, more than a week after Election Day, we still don’t know how many votes were cast because we are still waiting for mail. That’s just silly. I don’t understand how anyone can defend that.

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u/bta820 Left Visitor Nov 14 '24

And disenfranchising people because you are impatient is also dumb. Alaska is the most defensible mail in vote state. It’s the wrong fight to pick

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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor Nov 14 '24

I don’t understand how anyone can defend that

They voted on election day and we're a representative democracy so we should generally accept people's votes when cast within the bounds set by the constitution, and anyone who's ballot is being received now voted within those bounds. We have over a month until the electoral college votes and the president isn't sworn in until January 20th. There is no reason to rush or restrict voting unless you want fewer people voting

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u/spaceqwests Right Visitor Nov 14 '24

You’re saying something is legal. We agree.

I’m saying something doesn’t make sense, because it doesn’t. Alaska and others are counting ballots slower than 3rd world banana republics.

Maybe we just have to agree to disagree whether that makes sense. For me, just adopt the Florida model and be done with it.

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u/DestinyLily_4ever Left Visitor Nov 14 '24

I’m saying something doesn’t make sense, because it doesn’t

Well, I've given you the rationale. The people voted on or before election day and counting more people's votes is good if we believe in universal franchisement. I think this vastly outweighs that it would be neat for the counting to be done

Maybe try explaining why it doesn't make sense to you, because right now all you've said is it would be nice for the count to be over faster, and you haven't explained what major benefit that would give us in the current system or why it would be worth invalidating more votes