I fluently speak backwards (phonetically). In August 2024, I was recruited by CERN for a study to invert myself for two years. I reverted in August 2022 and invited people to ask about my experience on r/tenet right after. I'm going to celebrate a brand new year after so long! Ask me.

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So you have since lived that two year period both forwards and backwards? Did you see your non-inverted self at any point?

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 18d ago edited 18d ago

I actually lived in this two-year period three times. Twice forwards; once inverted.

Between iterations 1 and 2, I didn't get to see myself. I was in Estonia when I was inverted, but lived in the US before the study.

In summer 2023, I did meet once between myself iterations 2 and 3 (CERN didn't know this until this September). Obviously, we never touched. I didn't know it when I was inverted, but when I was going back forwards, I prepared myself extensively (I even had to travel all the way from the Netherlands).

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 18d ago

For reference, my previous AMAs can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/z2j9ac/i_speak_fluent_backwards_phonetically_in_2024_i/

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u/[deleted] 18d ago edited 18d ago

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 18d ago

Vowels aren't even the most challenging bit. Wait until you have to implode your consonants.

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u/TellPuzzled1149 15d ago

This is a bit confusing to read. I get the idea that you are fluent in speaking backwards. Then I read this page and hear you speak about being inverted. That is different than speaking it. Also you say that you had cooperation with CERN with the turnstile to inverse time? Just like in Tenet movie? I didnt knew CERN had time aleration technology. For my personal experience I had been sleeping in my bed and had a sudden experience once that I shifted back to a reality when it was still the year 2016. And had to redo most of 2016 up until today in each of the 24 hours per day. Confusing. Interesting what cern may have contribute to this experience.

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 15d ago

Time teleportation isn't scientifically feasible. Perhaps you were in a really vivid dream.

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u/TellPuzzled1149 13d ago

Perhaps. Somehow the onset of the dream blend into wakefulness, and created lots of anomalies. Still you say you had an inverted experience was that time related then or speech? still dont know if you inverted or not? And how cern was involved. With that in mind I thought you had some collab project going on testing the quantum reality.

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 13d ago edited 11d ago

It was through time. CERN were the organisation that funded and operated the project. I had to learn a lot about quantum mechanics to understand the technology that we used.

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u/TellPuzzled1149 11d ago

Okay. That must have been quite a training. Ive relived over 12 years from a past node by now. And didnt have to learn anything about quantum mechanics. What I do witnessed is that even if I made a subtle change to the past. It didnt really matter. It became part of the then observable now and continued onwards. I also never met with an alternate self despite being in similar locations but across time. How was your experience through time? Able to create paradoxes? Its strange that I have a travel to the past experience, whether dream or no dream, and dont have any sign of a disclaimer I had to agree with. Thing is you are dealing with CERNs guidelines on whats accepted. Maybe not an easy task.

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 11d ago

You never sought to reach out to other iterations of yourself when you knew you were nearby. If you're talking about the grandfather paradox, that's impossible.

But I've experienced the bootstrap paradox plenty of times before.

For example: I met with my inverted self in 2023. In my first round (whilst inverted), I was surprised to find a double who looked exactly like me who also knew where I was. I kept note of the time and location then come back after I reverted. How could I had the idea to meet myself in the first place?

I'm a software engineer by trade. When the world around me goes through a technological shift, it's better for me to adapt than to fall behind. I went from only using normal technology to also connect inverted computers to the normal internet. It only made sense for me to learn about quantum systems.

Time teleportation violates the laws of physics, so that's impossible. Perhaps you put yourself in stasis each time you're time-travelling?

As for CERN: the team I worked with trust me (and the timeline) enough to not need me to sign a liability disclaimer.

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u/TellPuzzled1149 10d ago

I couldnt run into my former self even if I tried. So that makes for a complicated to me situation. Yes a kind of stasis must be in effect for me to stay in one place for the loop effect to work. Still I didnt preplan anything. And the whole experience unfolded without me doing any specifics.

And so there are no physical iterations of me. But mere thoughts that remind me of actions. Even though the completeness of that doesnt make sense when it is an exact copy of events taking place. I dont subscribe to the idea of visual reordering of reality, or defragmentation to over time see memories move into their original location.

Perhaps CERN is more in the know to form a better explanation for the weirdness that unfolded. As I see no sign anywhere that any timeline visitations happened. Its like just an ongoing forward continuum. Day after day. Annoying to see these projects going on.

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 10d ago

"I dont subscribe to the idea of visual reordering of reality, or defragmentation to over time see memories move into their original location".

Could you please clarify?

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u/TellPuzzled1149 3d ago

That reality is fixing itself when being inside an altered past. That when I perceive the past and am limited with the past memories I have. That reality cant fix itself by re-sync with the original reality to make both the memory equal to the original reality, and the past reality shift back to the present reality. There is no restructuring or degragmentation happening. Which makes my experience of dream/psychotic/altered state of consciousness not easy to get my head wrapped around it.

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 3d ago edited 1d ago

I had a different experience. When I was inverted, I lived in a completely different country to before I was inverted. Seeing political news rewrap itself (and then unwrap exactly the same way again) was a spectacle. However, I couldn't have known everything about Tallinn that happened in these two years.

Just an aside: I mostly forgot about Trump's 2024 earbleed until ~1.7 years after I reverted and heard about it on the news. Understand that the media don't always portray the world as it happens for everyone else.

When you live forwards, you generally expect that the places which you go to will be intact when you leave them. Any job you do is generally expected to be done without much incident. Any restaurant you visit would still be open for business the next day. When I was inverted, I could practically guarantee all of these things. No need to think about re-structuring lived memories.

I hope it makes sense.

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 11d ago

Did you get a chance to meet Neil by the way?

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u/TellPuzzled1149 10d ago

Not really. Instead it be more fitting that I take on the role of Neil as I go back to the beginning of what I think is the experiment. And that beginning is on 16 february 2012. Not long after or before CERN discovers the Higgs Boson.

Its so convenient with the timing to be exactly that.

That the date is a fail safe mechanism so that if changes to be made must be before the discovery of the Higgs Boson.

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 10d ago

I see your point. If I'm not mistaken, turnstiles were in use as early as the 1990s (near the end of the Cold War).

Russian oligarchs used them to make money off of inverted gold bars, among other things. Look into Stalsk-12 in Siberia.

As you may also know, turnstiles are invented in the future. However, CERN began to build their quantum IP-translation servers some time before August 2022.

In June 2019, no inverted person was calling anyone else from an inverted phone.

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u/TOMMYXJARVIS 18d ago

I imagine being inverted for 2 years would be incredibly lonely. How did you manage that? How did you pass the time, entertain yourself…etc…

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 18d ago edited 18d ago

I went outside a lot. Public transport is (and was) gratis for residents in Tallinn.

And I didn't live alone at the lab. The weekly scheduled meetings by CERN made sure of that. We had to use the turnstiles frequently anyway. Most importantly so I could get the food I needed to survive.

All my finances were taken care of by CERN. I took up some odd jobs - mainly in house-(un)moving and private security. I also attended plenty of physics conventions in Europe. If it was far away from a turnstile, we would've needed to bring a lot of stuff in advance.

Aside from that, I spent a lot of my free time writing code and browsing the internet.

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u/TOMMYXJARVIS 18d ago

The internet must be rather difficult to use when inverted? Can you break down how you navigated it in that state?

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 18d ago edited 18d ago

If I remember correctly: my smartphone wasn't inverted, but I always carried a laptop that was. I had to be very lean with my internet usage. I literally needed to schedule exactly when and how I'll upload and download data over HTTP, etc.

Using asynchronous systems such as Reddit or Git were manageable, but video calls would have had to be recorded ahead of my time.

That's why I also carried a non-inverted device with me.

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u/MauJo2020 17d ago

Several questions, if you don’t mind.

Did you,or anyone at the CERN lab, use your “invertedness” test the possibility of temporal paradoxes?

Did your experience provide any answers (personally or scientifically) in regards to the nature of time?

Why were you chosen?

Did they run any experiments on you while inverted?

Did CERN run any studies to test the entropy wind theory and the duration of its effect on inverted objects or persons ?

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u/--VisualPlugin-- 17d ago edited 17d ago

I made viral TikTok videos prior to the study. I said phrases (mostly from comments) in reverse. I also made educational videos on how to pronounce reversed sounds and made skits about things would work in an inverted world. Mostly novelty stuff, but I showed a lot of passion for reversed chronology.

CERN had to make sure that the person who reached out to me didn't know much about the experiment before I joined. That recruiter basically said that I already have most of the skills needed.

We didn't organise many rigid experiments because I was living life like it was one. When I began, CERN had a journal of observational results written about me. It was my job to make sure they un-collect this information in the first place.

You learn that temporal paradoxes are impossible. I tried. We had a saying at the lab that 'what's happened happened'. If someone said that something happened in his past and I don't see it, I'd have to think that he's either mis-remembering or he's messing with me. The sense to know which is which comes with practice.

I don't remember anything about 'entropic wind theory', but we observed that small masses of inverted matter disappear into the past faster than larger masses. Maybe that's what you're referring to. In the open air, inverted gasses take a couple minutes typically to dissolve, whilst small solids can take some hours. Any collected inverted mass over 5 kg probably won't dissolve for decades. That's why the oxygen masks were fit airtight.

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u/sarahLcosmo 8d ago

Wait what is this. Is this real or someone joking im so confused because there are serious questions