r/swtor • u/Beligard • Oct 18 '24
What is one NPC that you dislike/hate the most? Question
For me it's Saresh. Absolutely the worst. I choose the the Dark Side option for her story at the end every time for all characters.
Just an annoying, manipulative character whose ego puts most Sith to shame.
Anyone you dislike or hate the most?
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u/Defalt_477 Oct 18 '24
8 class stories, dozens of despicable characters, and i hate Ri'kan the most. He is a waste of screen time. I really hope he doesn't return.
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u/Skalkeda A Dedicated Addict Oct 19 '24
I hated Saresh because of that bug that caused her "Welcome to Taris" speech to play over everything else if you walked into the spaceport.
Then she turned out to just be a crap person.
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u/Bladenkerst_Baenre Satele Shan Oct 19 '24
It is still there...
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u/Ayrobyr Oct 19 '24
Of course it is. :(
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u/larrydavidballsack Oct 20 '24
at this point id be more upset at them fixing the bug tbh. it’s taris flavor
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u/thevyrd Oct 18 '24
Skadge is just semi sentient bantha shit that wears a jacket
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u/scatteredloops Oct 19 '24
On coming back to the game after about five years away, I discovered I’d never once used him as a companion as his kill count was zero. It was with extreme reluctance that I brought him out just to get that ticked off.
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u/XeroAnarian O'rex Legacy, Star Forge Oct 19 '24
I was so happy to get rid of him. I would have never let him on my ship int he first place, it made me mad that the story forced me to let him aboard and be a companion. He ran his mouth so much. "If it will get you to shut up!" oooo I hated him and was happy to end him.
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u/finelargeaxe Oct 20 '24
I would rather keep dealing with Ri'Kan, Sa'Har, and the rest of the current Mandalorian plot than have Skadge "grace" my screen ever again.
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u/a-squib-named-filch Oct 20 '24
its 3am and im laughing my literal ass off 😭😭😭 i live for the skadge hate. that KYYL guy from the beginning of SW story must be a cousin
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u/InsaneReaper Smashin' Oct 19 '24
If I had a blaster with two rounds, and I was in a room with Saresh, Skadge, and Darth Norok, I would shoot Skadge twice then stomp his fish corpse like I stomp Necromorphs in Dead Space.
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u/Aivellac Oct 19 '24
You can beat Saresh to death.
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u/InsaneReaper Smashin' Oct 19 '24
And not beat Skadge's corpse into fish paste? Ridiculous.
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u/Aivellac Oct 19 '24
In addition* Pulping Skadge is a given but Saresh needs to die brutally too.
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u/InsaneReaper Smashin' Oct 19 '24
Killing Saresh expends energy that can be used to extinguish the life of every molecule that was part of Skadge.
I never really bother killing Saresh. I find just punching her in-front of Imperial and Republic forces, probably live on holonet, to be much more satisfying.
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u/NitzMitzTrix A blind deaf comatose lobotomite feeling Baras's anger Oct 19 '24
Darth Norok was just another evil toddler. Saresh and Skadge were like genital warts in how much of a nuisance they've been
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u/Awkward-Hulk Oct 19 '24
Kaliyo. She's insufferable.
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u/Tysere Oct 19 '24
Finally someone else but me. I wouldn't tolerate a person w/ that personality IRl where I don't even have laser guns and shit. No one entertains people like that, much less for that long.
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u/XeroAnarian O'rex Legacy, Star Forge Oct 19 '24
Huh, that's an unexpected answer. What is it about her you find insufferable?
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u/Awkward-Hulk Oct 19 '24
Because of her general attitude. The moment she made it clear that she'd betray you the moment it made sense to her, I was like: fine, then GTFO. It would have been great if we could have declined to have some companions in the original game. Kaliyo, Quinn, and Skadge would have been prime targets to leave behind for me.
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u/Ethan_the_Revanchist Darth Occlus Oct 20 '24
I mean, that just straight-up isn't an option for your character. Intelligence assigned her to you.
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u/XeroAnarian O'rex Legacy, Star Forge Oct 20 '24
Eh, with her I knew what to expect and when it happened that's the convo option I chose actually lol. It was obvious she had issues with her past partners and history told me she was likely to do it to me too, but I like her stories and her lifestyle.
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u/Zardhas Oct 19 '24
Overseer Harkun
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u/TuxedoChief Oct 19 '24
Shut up, SLAVE!
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u/SingleFunny9302 Oct 19 '24
Sometimes, when I'm feeling down, I'll start up a new Inquisitor just so I can run my mouth to him and give him shit. Always puts a smile on my face.
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u/BookObjective4448 Darth Xaeion Oct 19 '24
I hate Saresh so much that even in my lightside playthroughs, I kill her every time. She doesn't get to survive.
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u/steveamsp Oct 19 '24
Well, given what she tried to do, she earned that end.
Even if every other choice ever has been light-side, none of my characters allow her to live.
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u/DaxLovesIPA1974 Oct 19 '24
Senator Tudos on Belsavis.
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u/NightLordsEatFruit Oct 19 '24
Latest story updates made me despise Shae Vizla. Holy shit, woman, just get a grip!
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u/NitzMitzTrix A blind deaf comatose lobotomite feeling Baras's anger Oct 19 '24
She started out cool then became OBSESSED with Heta Kol to the detriment of EVERYONE
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u/Anthyrion Oct 20 '24
I somehow can understand her obsession. Heta challenged her for a duel to the death for the title of Mand'alor, but she fled when the odds were against her and she had to fight fair.
Butbreaking into the prison, that was only constructed to hold Malgus down and freeing him, while our character had a very hard time, to get him down TWICE makes her an unbearable ally
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u/markymark0123 Oct 19 '24
Commander Vergost. He's the genocidal Imperial you encounter during the Republic Nar Shaddaa arc. Even on my lightest jedi, he gets to die.
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u/dilettantechaser Oct 18 '24
Spirakris Zakem on Coruscant, she has a stupid name and tricks players into thinking her stupid cause ought to be LS "the TRUE republic". She has a cool VA from KOTOR though (Handmaiden).
Gearbox. Maybe the most annoying villain in the game and not love to hate like Tarro Blood. Has more personality than the other havoc traitors though.
Yuon aka the one Space Welsh person in the game. I literally forgot she existed after the prologue.
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u/Ethan_the_Revanchist Darth Occlus Oct 20 '24
Huh? Zarem didn't trick anyone. She's very straightforward with you. You can break the law to expose the Senator's plan to ally with the Sith, or you can decline.
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u/dilettantechaser Oct 20 '24
It's a confusing quest because players don't understand why doing what she wants is a DS choice. And I don't think it's because it's written so well or is a particularly complex moral dilemma.
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u/Ethan_the_Revanchist Darth Occlus Oct 20 '24
It's pretty straightforward. Don't think it's intended to be complex, either.
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u/DougGravesMHLS Oct 19 '24
KOTH
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u/BookObjective4448 Darth Xaeion Oct 19 '24
I wouldn't say I absolutely hate Koth, but I find his self ritiousness highly annoying. There is this one scene during Arcann's attack on Asylum that I think really sums up Koth's basic personality pretty well. Basically, Koth asks MC if Valkorian has any advice, and you say his staying silent, and then Koth goes on to say that Valkorian is a "great man." You then are given the usual three dialog options, one of which is telling Koth that Valkorian is a monster saying,"the man killed billions. " And what is Koth's response to you telling him that Valkorian is personally responsible for the deaths of billions of innocent people? "Well, he was always good to Zakuul." This, by the way, is the same person who gets pissy when you let the reactor melt down because you need to get the hell out of there and his response to leaning his exalted Emperor killed billions is "well it wasn't Zakuul so it's fine."
Now I understand him being mad when you help Kalyo blow up a city, but the fact that he would seriously excuse the billions Valkorian killed simply because none of them were his people makes his opinion on such matters worthless. This, by the way, means that if the city that had been blown had been republic or imperial, he wouldn't get mad, which is hypocrisy of the highest order.
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u/Cemoli117 Oct 19 '24
He is the only reason i always blow up those damn zakuul people lol i just want to piss him off. And then i kill him when i get the chance to. I hate that man with a passion. Exactly for these reasons you mention.
He doesnt care about anything in the galaxy but zakuul. If he had to sacrifice any other planet with billions of people to safe zakuul he would not hesitate to do so.
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u/BookObjective4448 Darth Xaeion Oct 19 '24
Well, I don't hate him enough to kill him in the end. I usually punch him and then keep him alive for latter use. Plus, when you kill Koth, Lana makes this really sad face, so I prefer not to kill him.
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u/Kgo555 Oct 19 '24
Ardon. Had to look him up because I forgot his name. He’s Tanno Vik’s “supervisor,” the first person the Trooper interacts with on Balmorra for his Story Arc mission there in the recruitment of Vik, who’s also pretty unlikeable himself. But this guy and his bitter cynicism and sarcasm is straight up on another level. In fact, I’d say that I have yet to come across another NPC in this game whose level of disdain, sarcasm, and “piss you off so much that you’d wanna punch him in the face” factor comes close to this mf. Koth is a close second, but to me, Ardon still takes the crown for this one.
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u/LowerSorbet7240 may the be with you always force Oct 19 '24
I'm probably gonna be an outlier here, but Risha. I don't like her storyline and she annoyed the crap out of me and my m!Smuggler, lmao.
She forces herself into your crew, and I just wound up with the feeling of "you joined me, stop whining at me about your problems, when you could just, y'know, leave, you don't need to be here" when interacting with her. I know obviously the companion can't leave because the game is written as it is, but considering that's the feeling Risha invokes... It's not a good storyline, to me.
She drags the smuggler into her mess, with her "I'm gonna be queen of Dubrillion", or however it went, and I just. Ma'am. How is this going to benefit my smuggler in any way? I have no emotional investment here, and as for monetary gain... my smuggler is quite efficient at earning credits on his own, and I doubt you'll share much of this special bounty you keep talking at me about. She's so entitled about the way she shoehorns herself into your crew and it drove me up the wall.
In the end, Risha wound up in my "please stop talking" collection of compaions 😭😭 But that's just me, and my experiences / opinion.
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u/SickSorceress Blanket fort on Tulak Hord Oct 19 '24
You're not alone. Just wanted to give you the confirmation that Risha is one of my unloved companions as well for all the reasons you mentioned.
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u/LowerSorbet7240 may the be with you always force Oct 19 '24
Someone who gets me! 🤝🤝
Honestly, for a potential love interest, they really could have done a better job of making her storyline less "me, me, I, me" 😭💀
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u/SickSorceress Blanket fort on Tulak Hord Oct 19 '24
🤜🤛
I actually think this is one of the reasons why Akaavi is so popular too.
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u/LowerSorbet7240 may the be with you always force Oct 19 '24
Probably, tbh. That and "pretty, beefy Mando" 🤣
I'm an Akaavi-mancer myself; I was originally not gonna romance anyone, on my smuggler, but tbh, I was like "okay, wait, Akaavi's kinda cute, and her storyline intrigues me".
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u/SickSorceress Blanket fort on Tulak Hord Oct 19 '24
And she's loyal and it's not everything about herself. It feels more like a "falling in love" than a "I take the attractive smuggler so I don't marry some interchangeable noble out of convenience".
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u/LowerSorbet7240 may the be with you always force Oct 19 '24
Yeah, exactly!
I had initially just flirted with Akaavi, because, well, my smuggler is a flirt... And then oops, bam, he developed A Feelings, so I decided to pursue the romance. 100% worth.
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u/Anthyrion Oct 19 '24
- Skadge (the obvious choice)
- Saresh (she was the most powerhungry person in the Republic and really tried to get her hands on everything, Lana, Theron and me build up)
- Thanaton (at first, it was a typical "get rid of a possible threat, before it grews to big" story, but when he fled out of the Kaggath Arena, while always talking so proud of "the old ways", every possible respect was gone)
- Gus Tunno (i really don't see him fit in the Smuggler crew and everytime he talks, he annoys me)
- Koth ("The Gravestone is MY Ship!" my ass. Without my character, you still would be sitting on Zakuul and do nothing or would even have the Ship)
- Tarro Blood (I know, he was made to be hated. But he does it so good)
- Kaliyo (i really don't see how an imperial Agent and an Anarchist work together)
- After the last Storyupdate: I really don't like Shae Vizla anymore (I helped her in the past, as good as i could and had a very hard time to capture Malgus and only with the effort of former Grandmaster Satele and other Jedi, it was even possible to capture him in the first place)
- Vaylin (I know, she was a victim of the circumstances, but i hate it, that she makes me decide between two good NPC to save. I also hate the fact, that the writers didn't wrote a way into the story, in which you can save her. Especially as a Light Side Character that should be an option)
- Baras (at least at the end of the Warrior Storyline. He lost the final duel and when he knew, that he couldn't fight his way out, he tries again to manipulate others [in that case the Council Members] to do his dirty work)
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u/Jedi-Spartan Oct 19 '24
After the last Storyupdate: I really don't like Shae Vizla anymore
When the story finally gets to the Alliance catching her and Malgus (in, say, 5 years time), I wonder how many players will choose whatever the Dark Side choice will be...
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u/Anthyrion Oct 19 '24
Probably my Trooper and my first two Jedi will only arrest or abandon her. My Smuggler is a good guy, but no one betrays him.
My two Sith and my Agent? Bye bye. And my Bounty Hunter? He is still a Mandalorian, so if possible, he would challenge her to a duel for the title of Mand'alor, because she let's her personal feelings reign over the big picture of the rest of the Mandos.
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u/Jedi-Spartan Oct 19 '24
He is still a Mandalorian, so if possible, he would challenge her to a duel for the title of Mand'alor, because she let's her personal feelings reign over the big picture of the rest of the Mandos.
Given how bored I am with my story, that's similar to what I've thought up for my Bounty Hunter's ending. The main difference is he lures Shae and Heta to one place and deals with them both (after killing Malgus and finding a way to get the hypothetical bounty money from both sides), then takes over as Mand'alor under the name Mandalore The Nomad, reunifies the Mandalorians and recommits them to the Alliance to prevent all factions from purging them and their culture down to the last Mando in a defeat worse than the state Revan left them in after the Mandalorian Wars. In order to keep the restless ones on side, he then uses the Mandalorians to go on the offensive against the Alliance's enemies. Finally, once the Third Galactic War ends, he and the Mandalorians go on crusades into the Unknown Regions to see what warrior races they can find.
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u/Anthyrion Oct 19 '24
Sounds like a nice little fan fiction^^ But i doubt, that this will gonna happen. At least, if your character should stay in the game. Although i really don't like, that you don't see any progress on the war between the Republic and the Empire. They are at war for... how long now? 10 years or more (ingame speaking)? And while we hear sometimes, that one or the other side has a slide advantage, there doesn't seem to be any progress on the war itself at all.
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u/Jedi-Spartan Oct 19 '24
Sounds like a nice little fan fiction
It basically is... after playing through all the Origin Stories, I started creating backstories for several of my characters and thinking of what each would do after the start of KOTFE (since my Jedi Knight is the one following the game's current story).
Although i really don't like, that you don't see any progress on the war between the Republic and the Empire. They are at war for... how long now? 10 years or more
If we include the entire Timeline covered by the game/include the end of the Cold War and the 5 or 6 year gap of the Eternal Empire, I think it's closer to 20 years (although since I'm basing it on Wookieepedia's dates which used a quote from one of the devs that it's 1 year per chapter/major expansions which may have changed at some point so once you get past Iokath, it's possible the events are more condensed).
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u/Anthyrion Oct 19 '24
If we include the entire Timeline covered by the game/include the end of the Cold War and the 5 or 6 year gap of the Eternal Empire, I think it's closer to 20 years
Oof. 20 years and probably few or no progress on the galactic scale at all. I know, the developers want to run the game as long, as possible. But damn, they still could program some progress into the story
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u/Jedi-Spartan Oct 19 '24
I know... it feels like the current team (from Jedi Under Siege onwards) thinks that the only thing needed for 'progress' in the conflict is just for one side to curb stomp the other since the faction allied with the Alliance seems to ALWAYS win but we never get to see what the state of the other side is unless the player is on a saboteur playthrough or if its in reaction to Malgus.
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u/LongSurnamer Oct 19 '24
Corso. He’s so annoying with his ‘I must protect all women, become my tradwife’ schtick that he pulls on a female smuggler
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u/Jedi-Spartan Oct 19 '24
And he's way too 'goody two shoes' for a Dark Side or even Neutral Smuggler.
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u/Eaglettie Papa Malgus Oct 19 '24
Except when it's the Tatooine mission for Risha because then the fem smuggler's safety suddenly takes a back seat to Risha's...
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u/LordThys Oct 19 '24
Literally every NPC on Alderaan, they're so sanctimonious. I only hope that one day the means exist to blow up that wretched planet.
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u/Saopaulo940 Oct 18 '24
Darth Ravage!
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u/Butteredpoopr Oct 19 '24
End of Inquisitor story in a nutshell.
Ravage after Thanaton Dies: Lol noob Marr: stfu ravage
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u/Jedi-Spartan Oct 19 '24
Also Ravage after Thanaton dies: "We can't have a LORD on the Dark Council, it's unfair, it's an insult to me personally!"
Marr: "I thought I told you to stfu Ravage..."
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u/dilettantechaser Oct 18 '24
Lol Ravage is my favorite Sith in the whole game. Thanaton has a better VA but Ravage only has a couple minutes in the SI/SW finales but does so much with it. We need more Ravage! Forget Jadus, bring back Ravage!
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u/tachibanakanade Darth Zash Fan Club President Oct 19 '24
bring back Ravage
He's dead, though.
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u/dilettantechaser Oct 19 '24
So was Malgus
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u/tachibanakanade Darth Zash Fan Club President Oct 19 '24
We only assumed that Malgus died. But Ravage straight up died, he became Zildrog food.
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u/Aivellac Oct 19 '24
Malgus was dead on the floor in a space station that blew up. He should never had been revived.
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u/dilettantechaser Oct 19 '24
Maybe none of those people really died. Or maybe he lives on as a force ghost.
The game does a lot of retcons, and no other story beat should be retconned more than that stupid FP.
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u/XeroAnarian O'rex Legacy, Star Forge Oct 19 '24
That one Voss that aggressively told me to stay off of Voss on the space station. I wish I could stay off that garbage planet, I hope even more bad stuff happens to it, I hope it gets glassed, I hate Voss, but the way he spoke to me made me want to live on that dump in spite of him.
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u/finelargeaxe Oct 20 '24
Yeah, I really can't stand Voss, either...I hope they never make us go back for a-
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u/DaCipherTwelve I write and I draw Oct 19 '24
The antagonists of the Nathema arc. Vinn Atrius and Gemini 16. It's almost insulting that these characters turn up for three minutes of screentime and absolutely wreck our galactic power ranking. It would've been preferable if the Outlander had been the one to destroy the fleet and the Gravestone.
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u/No-Confusion2597 Oct 19 '24
I don’t know why but rikan heta all madno characters are so bad now if they was a part of a nul Malgus sith and jedi story it wouldn’t be bad like shae fights for the republic heta for sith but they saw the Disney show and went hog wild
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u/Evanoel_Alenfield Oct 19 '24
I'm mostly lightside, but Saresh always dies on both my Pub and Imp playthrough. It may just shock everyone when I execute her as yes sir Trooper and insufferably good Jedis lol
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u/PlatinumPrincess90 Oct 19 '24
Darth Anathell! It was so fucking satisfying watching my Sorcerer zap him so hard he’s ripped out of my old chair.
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u/SpartAl412 Oct 18 '24
That space PETA woman in the Smuggler storyline.
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u/dilettantechaser Oct 18 '24
The one on NS? IDK she's bad but the Male smugglers hookup is worse imo.
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u/Tysere Oct 19 '24
It's a 3 way tie between Corso, Kaliyo, and Darth Baras. Except you can actually do something about Baras so maybe it's just a tie.
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u/Ok-Doughnut-4686 Oct 20 '24
Saresh,skadge,the nathema conspiracy main villain(like everyone was happy with me ruling the galaxy and I made sure zakuul is thriving by sending supplies and crushing the exchange but still he had to destroy the fleet that was helping his planet)
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u/a-squib-named-filch Oct 20 '24
I'm living for the skadge hate and loathing the quinn hate 😭😭😭 at least I have not seen my vector on here he can do no wrong
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u/Drakestormer Oct 19 '24
That racist, and xenophobic Imp flunky that you can force choke or zap with a With. Prick.
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u/BookObjective4448 Darth Xaeion Oct 19 '24
Which one would this be? I mean, especially during the base game, xenophobic imp officers are fairly common, so I have no idea which one you're talking about.
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u/Drakestormer Oct 19 '24
I don't remember the planet. Queen maybe?
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u/BookObjective4448 Darth Xaeion Oct 19 '24
I do not know of any planet called queen. Do you mean Quesh, the poisonus plant that's all orange and has a relatively small map compared to other planets?
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u/Drakestormer Oct 19 '24
Quesh. Autocorrect
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u/BookObjective4448 Darth Xaeion Oct 19 '24
In that case, I think I may remember the one you're talking about. Is it the dude from the first Quesh planet story quest on the imperial side?
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u/StillArcher5127 Oct 19 '24
Quinn. Ending him should have been an option
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u/StillArcher5127 Oct 19 '24
All I could do is make him surrender his side arm. I couldn’t even put Vette’s old shock collar on him
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u/ValidAvailable Oct 19 '24
Jadus. So predictable, so trite, and I don't even get the satisfaction of ending him.
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u/FlyJunior172 Oct 19 '24
Even on LS play throughs I get rid of Koth.
SCORPIO always gets scrapped.
Only my pub toons imprison Saresh. Even the LS imp toons neutralize her.
Tanno Vik rarely walks. Same with Kaliyo.
All of my warriors hold a grudge against Quinn.
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u/Datpizzaguru Oct 19 '24
Malavai Quinn. Iykyk
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u/deadpiratezombie Oct 19 '24
It’s very different the interaction feel for Quinn if w play fem!warrior or male!warrior
Much more annoying as a male
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u/Wyr__111 Oct 19 '24
Any of the Inquisitor companions
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u/KaiserNicky Oct 19 '24
How can anyone hate Khem and Talos?
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u/SickSorceress Blanket fort on Tulak Hord Oct 19 '24
❤️🔥
And Revel is downright one of the best romances for a female character in the game. I also have a soft spot for Xalek. I'd say the Inq has one of the most consistent and interesting crews.
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u/Tysere Oct 19 '24
I just can't stand Steve Blum same-voicing him and every npc all the time. I don't want to hear him talk.
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u/SickSorceress Blanket fort on Tulak Hord Oct 19 '24
OK, I don't have this problem, since I'm not playing in English.
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u/Wyr__111 Oct 19 '24
I just didn't care for them. I wasn't emotionally invested in there story, like I was for Vette, Corso, Elara, Tharan and Nadia. I will admit however that I tried to play my Inquisitor as an extremely evil dude so maybe I'd have a better time if I went with the lightside.
I did like my kaleesh apprentice, but you get him far too late into the story to actually develop a connection with him.
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u/KaiserNicky Oct 19 '24
I view Khem like my dog and Talos like the one nerd friend who understands the insane nonsense you're talking about
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u/SickSorceress Blanket fort on Tulak Hord Oct 18 '24
I wouldn't mind if Ri'kan fell into a deep dark hole not only figuratively (as there he is already) but literally too.
Please boy.