Good article explaining the future pricing of electricity and natural gas pricing

[u/PV-1082]

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/electric-power-sector-issues-to-watch-prices-demand-reliability-renewables-nuclear-vpp-transmission/736492/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter%20Weekly%20Roundup:%20Utility%20Dive:%20Daily%20Dive%2001-11-2025&utm_term=Utility%20Dive%20Weekender

This article has a lot of information about what is going to happen in the future with electricity and natural gas pricing. It explains how the various changes in demand for electricity in future years is going to raise prices. Seems like a good argument for installing solar.

[u/No_Plate_3164]

UK electric is $0.31 per kWh- almost triple the current U.S. prices. GDP per Capita and Wages are also half the U.S. before I even begin talking about taxes effectively being double on working people here vs the U.S.

This means we are spending about 6x on Energy in “hours work per kWh”. It’s also due to go up another 5% this year and possible further raises the years following. The government has and continue to completely mismanage our energy grid.

With the hilariously cheap and high quality solar panelsbatteries being spat out of China at the moment; Solar panels are an absolute no brainer. Mine go up in couple of months.

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Don't wait - I was exporting a 1KW/h today with clear blue skies despite the low and short duration sun.

Edit - skip that I'm in the UK

[u/No_Plate_3164 → u/HH93]

I was all ready to go. I then heard Fox are releasing a new Heated Battery Series with built in fire suppression. That heating will be a game changer in weather like this.

I guess it’s like Graphic Cards - there will always be better, cheaper Tech in the pipeline. For the sake of a couple months though on a £12k install - waiting for the heated batteries seems worthwhile.

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LFP batteries don’t need fire suppression, and do better in multiple temperature ranges.

[u/No_Plate_3164 → u/_DuranDuran_]

Yeah the fire suppression does seem little pointless. I am torn as they will be at more premium price point. I was debating just building an insulated box for the winter.

The Fox batteries will charge to 80% off the grid and become inoperable at <3*c to protect the battery.

The batteries and inverter will kick out some heat and realistically they just need to warm the box ~+5*c over outside temperature to remain operable all year. I’m sure there is some maths to be done to look an inverterbattery efficiency to calculate heat and then work out the heat loss from the insulated box - but it is beyond me!

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Or have the battery inside the home - an insulated garage, for example.