r/progun 10d ago

Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' case officially over, prosecutor withdraws appeal News

https://ew.com/alec-baldwin-rust-case-over-appeal-withdrawn-8766323
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u/RadioHeadSunrise 10d ago

Well the person responsible for the death in this case is already in jail so this makes sense

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u/[deleted] 10d ago edited 8d ago

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u/RadioHeadSunrise 10d ago

If you are driving a forklift and the brakes fail and you skewer a co worker, are you responsible or is the person who does maintenance on the forklift responsible?

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u/[deleted] 9d ago edited 8d ago

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u/languid-lemur 9d ago

>If I pick up a random gun

Was it a random gun though and also, do you work on movies? I don't nor know what the protocols for firearms on a set are. If you do, please clarify the following: For a scene being shot and where guns for scene accessible to actors, do they go thru a safety check each time they pick them up? Or, are they cleared as safe by the armorer as ready to use? If the gun was cleared, is it random?

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u/RadioHeadSunrise 9d ago

I guess you’ve never had a job before, because comparing recreational firearm use to professional firearm use is asinine.

A firearm on set is just like any other piece of equipment used while working. Sometimes you are responsible for the equipment you operate but sometimes you aren’t. On a movie set, the responsibility of the safe operation of firearms falls on the armorer who is currently in jail.

Hope this helps!

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u/RadioHeadSunrise 9d ago

I guess you’re not capable of processing nuance but sometimes actions are a lot more complicated than just the last person in a chain of events.

If you want to live your life insisting it’s the person who put the last bottle in the trash can who is solely responsible for the trash being full so be it. But I can’t help you and neither can anybody else if you’re incapable of understanding analogies.

Also, if you have such hubris to insist your completely uninformed opinion on this case is more right than a court system built on complete factual analysis and hundreds of years of common law practice that’s hilarious as well.

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u/RadioHeadSunrise 9d ago

Yea that’s it!

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u/slickweasel333 9d ago

I hope you realize that you're coming off as a condescending asshole here

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u/BossJackson222 9d ago

You are actually 100% correct.

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u/2017hayden 9d ago

Wrong. Standard set procedure is the armory master checks the gun, shows clear to the actor then things proceed. Baldwin was the producer and in charge of on set safety. He told someone who wasn’t the armory master to go get the gun and took the gun from someone who wasn’t the armory master even though he knew that wasn’t proper procedure. He is 100% at fault.

The analogy that works here would be Baldwin as the safety inspector for the forklift hopping into a forklift they knew had safety issues and driving it without having a mechanic check it over.

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u/elevenpointf1veguy 9d ago

Yes, you are responsible, assuming you are responsible for conducting a brake check prior to moving.

Just like you are responsible for conducting a clearing check prior to handling the firearm.

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u/LeadnLasers 9d ago

Ya I was partly on your side before this brain dead comparison. Try again