r/privacy 7d ago

Apple opts everyone into having their Photos analyzed by AI news

https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/03/apple_enhanced_visual_search/
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u/CountGeoffrey 7d ago

privacy POV means privacy point of view. That's how words work.

I mean, you're not wrong of course. But I do think you're getting into being pedantic. i will edit my posts.

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u/lo________________ol 7d ago

You're literally the first and only person I've seen on this subreddit to make that claim. Nobody else has said this for any other client-side encrypted tool. Not Ente, not Signal, not Proton Drive.

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u/CountGeoffrey 7d ago edited 7d ago

those tools don't use FHE nor do "processing" on the opaque data.

i am not sure exactly what claim you mean, but just a quick look at what i imagine proton drive is: remote storage like mega. maybe it adds "required" client-side encryption. proton can still learn how many files you have, the sizes of each, yes? this metadata could glean something. not much but something.

this is in contrast to how the image matching feature works.

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u/lo________________ol 7d ago

Correct. Their servers don't process your data, so they don't need FHE. Apple does. Which means that calling Apple's data collection "device only" is even more disingenuous than I suggested.

You're proving my point for me; you don't have to keep dying on this very silly hill.

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u/TheFortnutter 7d ago

He’s saying your unencrypted data never leaves your device. Just an encrypted version that can be processed snd sent back to you. They can never unencrypt it.

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u/lo________________ol 7d ago

I can plainly see the attempt to bastardize language, I just don't like it. Especially when other things like Ente already perform actual device-only tagging.

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u/TheFortnutter 7d ago

Eh. It’s encrypted and I alr turned it off so it’s not that bad. Could be a lot worse. Still better than the competition.

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u/lo________________ol 7d ago

As long as you understand how well or how badly it's encrypted. Nobody was given the option for informed consent. And it does make me wonder, why is Apple's so excited about doing something that can only run on their servers, costs them money, but doesn't cost you anything?

Especially because the last time they wanted to do this, they wanted to scan photos for way more than landmarks.

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u/CountGeoffrey 7d ago

i still very much disagree however i'm not willing to belabor it further