r/politics • u/Dustypigjut Oregon • Nov 27 '24

Elon Musk publicized the names of government employees he wants to cut. It’s terrifying federal workers Soft Paywall

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/business/elon-musk-government-employees-targets/index.html

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u/bigbjarne Foreign Nov 27 '24

Why didn’t the famine continue if the reason was the centralized economy?

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u/ElectricalBook3 Nov 27 '24

That's explained in the article. The famine targeted Ukrainians because of the existence of kulaks resisting "collectivization" (state theft of private cooperatively-owned farms) and their solidarity broke and they gave in and handed over their ownership of their farms to the state. Maintaining an engineered famine is difficult and so once the state gained the power they wanted they took what gains they made and moved on.

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u/bigbjarne Foreign Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24

Why didn’t the famine continue if the reason was centralized economy? Does the article mention how the kulaks who resisted collectivization by slaughtering their animals and burning their crops? Why did so many Kazakh people die in this targeted famine against Ukrainians?

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u/ElectricalBook3 Nov 27 '24

Because centralized economy is not a magic spell which makes food disappear. As is explained in the Holodomor article I already linked, it allows food and tools to be seized and that is what allows famine. Same general thing caused hunger when English and Irish property owners seized crops as "tenet agreements". Centralized economy is a feature of Totalitarianism because it gives the head honcho control, and as soon as the dumbass at the top decides he dislikes someone every tool available is deployed against those people he dislikes.

Why did so many Kazakh people die

If you bothered to open the article on the kazakh famine or dekulakization you'd see the exact same explanation. Totalitarianism.

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u/bigbjarne Foreign Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24

Because centralized economy is not a magic spell which makes food disappear.

I thought this was the basis of your argument and it usually is.

Same general thing caused hunger when English and Irish property owners seized crops as "tenet agreements". Centralized economy is a feature of Totalitarianism

Was the British economy during this time an centralized economy?

If you bothered to open the article on the kazakh famine or dekulakization you'd see the exact same explanation. Totalitarianism.

But the famine targetted Ukrainians.

Does the article mention how the kulaks who resisted collectivization by slaughtering their animals and burning their crops?

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u/ElectricalBook3 Nov 28 '24

You're repeating yourself as if you have trouble reading the words I said.

Can you define "Totalitarianism"?

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u/bigbjarne Foreign Nov 28 '24

You're repeating yourself as if you have trouble reading the words I said.

No, I'm repeating myself because you aren't answering my questions.

Does the article mention how the kulaks who resisted collectivization by slaughtering their animals and burning their crops?

Was the British economy during this time an centralized economy?

Can you define "Totalitarianism"?

No.