r/politics • u/Dustypigjut Oregon • Nov 27 '24
Elon Musk publicized the names of government employees he wants to cut. It’s terrifying federal workers Soft Paywall
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/business/elon-musk-government-employees-targets/index.html3.0k
u/logicalconflict Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24
Is anyone surprised that after all this talk Musk's very first target is a relatively small office that helps to fund clean energy startups - you know to help companies who could provide direct competition to Tesla? This is corruption at it's finest.
None of these people give a shit about government efficiency - this will always be about helping certain companies make more money. You know...corruption.
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u/bareboneslite New York Nov 27 '24
"Musk also called out the Department of Energy’s chief climate officer in its loan programs office. The office funds fledgling energy technologies in need of early investment and awarded $465 million to Tesla Motors in 2010, helping to position Musk’s electric vehicle company as an EV industry leader."
The relatively small office that Tesla owes much of its success to. Perfect example of the "fuck you, I got mine" mentality of rich assholes.
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u/roseofjuly Washington Nov 27 '24
And the people who worship him are so fucking stupid that they think they're "owning" someone by simply watching Elon Musk pull the ladder up behind him.
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u/Objective_Dog_4637 Nov 28 '24
I used to wonder how Hitler could ever rise to power and now it all makes perfect sense.
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u/CraftCodger Nov 27 '24
It means these fledgling companies need private equity. These greedy oligarchs and their cronies, so desperate to remove competition so they can own you.
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u/Duke_skellington_8 Nov 28 '24
They just gave Rivian a loan to build a factory in GA. This is why he is doxxing them.
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u/rAxxt Nov 28 '24
In other news, Musk wants to downsize NASA. For what possible reason might he want that? A real head scratcher.
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u/MaximumOrdinary Nov 28 '24
He will gut the FAA after they have ”slowed” his starship program. I can imagine.
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u/L11mbm New York Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24
Musk: "Nobody should be able to see the public information about where my private jet is!"
Also Musk: "Here's the names and info of a bunch of government employees that I want fired."
EDIT: Wow, so many comments from people who seem to think being a public employee means you SHOULD be doxxed? Shocker.
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u/Alpacatastic American Expat Nov 27 '24
Lol forgot about the jet tantrum. What a hypocritical cringe asshole.
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u/Thief_of_Sanity Nov 27 '24
Every billionaire is a self serving hypocrite.
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u/MA3XON Nov 27 '24
As he complains about groomers when his dad did it to his own step daughter. Raised, married, and bore children with
Musk also has an eye for women significantly younger than him. Biggest hypocrisy
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u/howareyoufucker Nov 27 '24
Turns out your environmental upbringing significantly shapes who you become.
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u/amateur_mistake Nov 27 '24
Also, he was well into the Epstein circle and constantly tells on himself by calling anyone he doesn't like a pedo. We know he has done some creepy things like trying to make an employee give a hand job in return for a horse.
It would be the least surprising thing ever to find out that Elon has had sex with children.
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u/thisusedyet Nov 27 '24
We know he has done some creepy things like trying to make an employee give a hand job in return for a horse.
...To Elon or the horse?
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u/chiraltoad Nov 27 '24
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u/p8pes Nov 27 '24
Odd fact: Musk is one of the few humans alive whose mouth causes more carbon offset than his private plane.
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u/Throwawayac1234567 Nov 27 '24
The jet tantrum was one of the reason he wanted xitter, turning it into a neo nazi platform was just extra
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u/dwittherford69 Colorado Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 28 '24
Middle aged middle-school edgelord who thinks he is still peaking. Fucking expired yogurt.
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u/I_Am_Robert_Paulson1 New York Nov 27 '24
Isn't that basically why he bought Twitter?
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u/bobolly Nov 27 '24
I can't wait for someone to start posting his location on blue sky
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u/yourlittlebirdie Nov 27 '24
And somehow I’m not surprised they’re all women.
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Nov 27 '24
it's also positions related to climate, which they believe climate change is not true, so hard to say what the reason is for these ones specificly, or why post it.
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u/Hesitation-Marx Nov 27 '24
Oh. They know it’s true, they just don’t care. They either think they’ll be dead before it really starts to bite, or that their wealth will insulate them from the consequences of their choices.
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u/Gnosrat Nov 27 '24
They genuinely think they're going to live in paradise on Mars or something instead of the reality that they will just be eaten alive as the world burns.
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u/jellyrollo Nov 27 '24
The climate and atmosphere of Mars makes the most hellish degraded version of Earth look like a day in the park.
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Nov 27 '24
Also gravity. It's extremely likely that the gravity on Mars is just too low to support human life.
If you want to live in space, gravity is a huge problem. Venus wouldn't be so bad. The floating habitats idea sounds really cool, but the amount of time, money and resources it would require could be spent fixing global warming and turning Earth into a utopia multiple times over.
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u/RuprectGern Texas Nov 27 '24
its not that they don't care per se... its more like... Climate change is inconvenient/gets in the way of unfettered profit and innovation. its easy to build a big rocket if you are indifferent to what noxious shit it spews into the atmosphere. Its more expensive to build one that doesn't kill 10000 birds every time it launches.
"They" seem to not care because its just an obstacle to overcome. so they decry it.
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u/mademeunlurk Nov 27 '24
Because they own stock in a power and fossil fuel companies and it will slightly decrease their personal profits if renewable energy takes a stronger foothold. So they say burning coal is not bad for the environment and climate change is fake to maximize profit potential. It's the grass roots of the Republican party. They're all for profiting themselves above all else, some in disguise, others blatantly not so much.
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u/iSmellWeakness Nov 27 '24
I don’t understand why they don’t invest in green energy. That is the future.
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u/PO0tyTng Nov 27 '24
No. The future (for them) is literally the world burning and people starving to death, on a planet WE killed, while they live happily in their sustainable bunkers or try to terraform mars or some shit.
Republicans have been widening the wealth gap for 50+ years. The end goal is everybody but them dies.
You have to vote with your wallet. Stop buying so much beef, get solar panels on your house, make a vegetable garden, take public transportation, etc. if we cut off the demand for oil they will bend to us. They have to. They are driven by money alone
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u/Chazzermondez Nov 27 '24
The most well known pioneer of Electric Cars becoming a Climate Denier is something I never thought I would say.
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u/Medallicat Nov 27 '24
They aren’t deniers, they are opportunists. It’s their cultists that are deniers.
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u/JohnHazardWandering Nov 27 '24
Is that a discrimination lawsuit in the works for something like that? I know private companies have to make sure they don't layoff too high of a percentage of a protected class for fear it could be found discriminatory.
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u/stragedyandy Nov 27 '24
Not with the current state of the Supreme Court. The foxes are preparing to be in charge of the hen house and they are feeling pretty bold.
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u/hydraByte Nov 27 '24
The possible end result shouldn’t dissuade people from filing lawsuits. If the courts will be corrupt, let them show it out in the open.
This is important — the more resistance the administration faces, the more time they have to spend dealing with that resistance instead of enacting their extremist ideology.
Also keep in mind that this is precisely how Scientology became a recognized tax-exempt religion — the church had its members sue members of the government, and it would have taken the government too long and too much money to process all of the cases — they would have had their normal case load frozen for years, so they made a deal with Scientology. And as far as I understand it those were frivolous lawsuits, whereas these cases are potentially real discrimination cases.
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u/morning_espresso Nov 27 '24
This. Even if lawsuits become a losing proposition, we need a long trail of documentation, and a long trail of distractions. The distraction piece is literally how Trump wormed his way out of some of his legal issues - delay, stall, delay - wash, rinse, repeat.
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u/ElectricalBook3 Nov 27 '24
Also Musk: "Here's the names and info of a bunch of government employees that I want fired."
All female, note.
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u/Academic-Travel-4661 Nov 28 '24
I took note of that as well. Can’t wait til he and Trump have a giant clash of the egos
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u/xxlordsothxx Nov 27 '24
Ignore the comments by morons.
It is clear that Elon thinks is it NOT ok to doxx conservatives but it is 100% ok to doxx librerals or liberal adjacent (federal workers). Elon and his followers have essentially abandoned that "moral high ground" they claimed to have about free speech. Conservative accounts on X like libs of tik tok can doxx any liberal they want and they are not suspended.
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u/Fake_Engineer Nov 27 '24
I work for a State agency. A different department has a young lady who works in Code enforcement and planning. Her info got out. A local man, started harassing her. First it was just showing at planning board meetings and things of that nature. But once he had more info, he started harassing her in the local grocery store, on the streets etc. So now she's afraid to shop in her hometown or work out of her local office. The dude has been warned by the police to stay away, but it doesn't make her feel much better.
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u/code_archeologist Georgia Nov 27 '24
so many comments from people who seem to think being a public employee means you SHOULD be doxxed
When ever something negative is said about Musk a bunch of his dick riders will come to his rescue like a parade of the most pitiable white knights ever.
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u/thebowedbookshelf Nov 27 '24
It's like McCarthy 2.0 with his lists of "known Communists" in government but then extended to Hollywood and everywhere else.
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u/blurbyblurp Nov 27 '24
When Elon Musk dies, his children won’t mourn. The sun will shine brighter. The world will be a better place. If you want America to be better, let him go.
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u/WaffleBlues Nov 27 '24
Why do we tolerate this shit head? He's as bad as Trump, and has wormed his way into everyday American lives.
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u/hotdog_jones Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24
I'd argue he's worse than Trump.
Trump at his heart is incompetent, selfish and only wants power for the sake of having power. He'd rather be playing golf and having tantrums than actually dealing with the machinations of government. Sure, he might enable a bit of oligarchism and/or fascism and represents the erosion of democratic norms for some people, but this is largely to do with the context around him.
Musk on the other hand is deeply and dangerously ideologically driven and cares far more about tearing down institutions and rebuilding them in his own image. He now has the access and resources to do just that.
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u/Deto Nov 27 '24
Also Trump will be out of the game soon. But Elon Musk - we're going to be stuck with him for a long time.
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u/AniNgAnnoys Nov 27 '24
Long-term usage of ketamine is largely unstudied so who knows.
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u/Dustypigjut Oregon Nov 27 '24
Because it's what a slight majority voted for, unfortunately.
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u/ElectedByGivenASword Nov 27 '24
Plurality* he does not have a majority
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u/ElectricalBook3 Nov 27 '24
Plurality* he does not have a majority
When most people don't vote, they give up their representation to people who do.
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u/WaffleBlues Nov 27 '24
Ya, but we've tolerated this shit head through multiple administrations.
The man is a fucking lunatic with his own social media platform. It's fucking insane the shit Americans just accept.
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u/Nf1nk California Nov 27 '24
It's important to note that his publicly known dickishness has been doubling every year for a while now but has only broken through the trust thermocline in the last two years.
It does seem that at the same time, the visible symptoms of drug abuse are also becoming more apparent. Perhaps these trends are related.
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u/MagicAl6244225 Nov 27 '24
In 2017 Musk got name-dropped by a 23rd century Star Trek Discovery character in the same breath with the Wright Bros. and Zefram Cochane (inventor of warp drive in Star Trek future). The only thing that saves this prematurely hagiographic reference in hindsight is that the character speaking was revealed to be an evil twin from the mirror universe, but that's a rationalization, the writers should not have referenced an active present-day public figure.
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u/rabblerabble2000 Nov 27 '24
Nobody voted for Musk. Seems like we need to make these billionaires understand that having a lot of money doesn’t protect them from the angry masses.
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u/kaam00s Nov 27 '24
Because America is a pay to win game and he is the richest person
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u/Dangslippy Nov 27 '24
Because he is rich, and in our society money papers over many sins.
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u/Death_and_Gravity1 Massachusetts Nov 27 '24
Cause he's rich and the rich are beyond accountability in a capitalist society
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u/fumor Nov 27 '24
That's not true! Show me one top-tier DOJ special counsel example of this!
Oh wait...
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u/3MATX Nov 27 '24
This is blatant doxing and Musk will be praised by millions for this. These people never did a single thing to that idiotic man child from South Africa. Remember republicans, y’all are supporting an immigrant who has committed many crimes.
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u/MedicManDan Nov 27 '24
I'd like to see the billionaires terrified for once...
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u/Dipluz Norway Nov 27 '24
They are terrified of an organized middle class demanding healthcare, education and a decent living. Thats the biggest threat to their political power through money influence over politicians. Never ever loose focus its always been a class war.
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u/HotGarbage Washington Nov 27 '24
That's exactly why they want to keep this stupid culture war going for as long as possible. Once we all realize we have more in common with each other than with the corrupt fucks at the top is when the shit gets real. Conservatives and liberals alike, we all love our 2nd Amendment rights.
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u/Odnyc Nov 27 '24
And why the culture war defines middle class civil servants, teachers, professors, journalists, scientists, lawyers, professionals, etc as the elite that are out to get the average Joe, instead of the actual wealthy elite
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u/Paganator Nov 27 '24
It still blows my mind that a lot of people voted for a billionaire from New York because they hate coastal elites.
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u/kingtacticool Nov 27 '24
Those tasty, tasty billionaires....
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u/Serialfornicator Nov 27 '24
There is not enough hot sauce in the world to make that pasty, greasy, clammy flesh palatable
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u/intagliopitts Nov 27 '24
I feel like billionaire is not so much a culinary delicacy but more of a food challenge. Eat 1 entire billionaire in under 6 hours and you get a t-shirt that says “I did my part to save the human race from malignant psychopaths at Karl’s Diner”
You do it for the bragging rights
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u/Ceorl_Lounge Michigan Nov 27 '24
I have a pitchfork in my garage, that's a start right?
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u/foodiecpl4u Nov 27 '24
No. Not enough. You also need torches. Then, and only then, will you be considered "good People..." by our incoming President.
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u/patchgrabber Canada Nov 27 '24
Is it time to resurrect the pitchfork emporium copypasta?
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Nov 27 '24
There’s only 2000 of them. Let’s take this world back. We could easily overrun those cowards
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u/JeramiGrantsTomb Nov 27 '24
No way, don't do that! Once I pay off these student loans and fix the AC in my car and figure out which credit cards to balance transfer around so I can make the payments, I'm probably going to be one of those guys so I have to defend them!
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u/Big24 Nov 27 '24
Remember when Elon Musk banned an account that published government data about him, threatening to sue, harassing, and being a general ass…good Americans remember
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u/mobani Nov 27 '24
The same MusK who cried when people tracked his private jet.
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u/TheRealCovertCaribou Nov 27 '24
Using publicly-available information. Don't forget that very important nugget of information.
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u/StoneyPicton Nov 27 '24
It will be public no more.
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u/TheRealCovertCaribou Nov 27 '24
The technology in question, ADS-B, literally broadcasts the information in the air using public radio frequencies.
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u/WaffleBlues Nov 27 '24
Go check out right-wing channels - they love this shit and they love seeing "libs" upset over it. This is what they want.
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u/driftercat Kentucky Nov 27 '24
Do it to them. Name them and watch them cry. This horrible harrassing behavior is why their children won't come to Thanksgiving with them.
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u/theskippyraccoon Nov 27 '24
Reality is not going to hit them until the Social Security checks stop coming, they’re cut off of Medicaid/Medicare/VA bennies, they can’t use schools as daycares, public lands/parks are sold off, physicians have left their states, and so on and so forth…
The chain-reaction of consequences is going to be a doozy. As much as people bitch about bureaucracy, it’s never dawned on them to what degree they are dependent on some no-name bureaucrat who is shuffling around paperwork for nominal pay.
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u/AnalNuts Nov 27 '24
There will never be a lightbulb moment for them. It didn’t happen in Germany during WWII Nazi era and it won’t happen here. Nobody should get their hopes up for a “told ya so” moment. There will always be a scapegoat for why something bad is happening, and it won’t be anything in the maga realm
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u/StashedandPainless Pennsylvania Nov 27 '24
The only thing they care about is making liberals angry.
Then, when they achieve their goals and liberals shun them and cut them off, they feel victimized.
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u/Rotten-Robby Nov 27 '24
That's why they're the ones constantly crying "how can you end relationships over a different political belief?!??". It's killing them that they don't have anyone to harass and annoy and just have to sit and wallow in their misery and hate with no outlet.
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u/scarybottom Nov 27 '24
I think many on the left are finally just choosing to NOT ENGAGE. And that is really the only way to win this hunger games insanity. DO NOT PLAY.
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u/Rotten-Robby Nov 27 '24
Yep. They're having full on tantrums over the Twitter exodus because the people they supposedly hate are just done giving them an audience. No one left on the playground for them to "bully".
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u/rustymontenegro Nov 27 '24
Yeah. The worst punishment for a narcissist or a bully is to sit alone with themselves for more than 5 minutes.
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u/jtweeezy Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24
You can tell this man has never been punched in the face or been confronted with the consequences of his actions. He keeps pushing the boundaries and finding that no one is pushing back, so he pushes them further.
To be clear, I’m not advocating for him to be punched, but bullies generally only respond to people who stand up for them and he bought a platform that he could use to bully people from the billionaire’s pulpit that he occupies where he’s immune to pushback. Until he’s faces consequences for this kind of shitty behavior it’ll keep happening and getting worse and worse. At some point he’s going to get someone killed.
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u/anonyuser415 Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24
He's become paranoid: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/13/technology/elon-musk-security.html
His security team now operates like a mini-Secret Service, and he is guarded more like a head of state than a business executive, security experts said. Mr. Musk, who was once flanked by two bodyguards, travels with as many as 20 security professionals who show up to research escape routes or to clear a room before he enters. They often carry guns and have a medical professional in tow for Mr. Musk, who has been code-named “Voyager” by his security team.
Tesla disclosed in filings for the first time that it paid $2.4 million for a portion of Mr. Musk’s protection in 2023. It paid $500,000 in the first two months of 2024, more than five times the average spent every two months in 2019, according to Tesla documents. From 2015 to 2018, Mr. Musk spent an average $145,000 a month on security, according to invoices and receipts viewed by The Times.
This is the behavior of someone who wants to act like a dickhead to the world and suffer zero consequences for it.
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u/ThatOneNinja Nov 27 '24
He's playing out his personal fantasy of some big tech guru that will "save the world" but some one(s) will try to stop him. Like a Hollywood movie, he's just a boy that thinks those things really happen.
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u/lazyFer Nov 27 '24
In all those fantasies it's the low-life hacker(s) that topple the big tech bad that has incredible amounts of money and personal security
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u/espresso_martini__ Nov 27 '24
He's paranoid someone is out to get him. I hope that keeps him up at night.
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u/Greengrecko Nov 27 '24
He can be paranoid and spend all the money he wants. He's still one car accident or drone away. I would not want to be Musk with the level fo assassination technology that's be going on lately.
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u/anonyuser415 Nov 27 '24
I mean, if he prevents tens of thousands of career civil servants from getting their pensions, his paranoia may be worthwhile....
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u/DarkwingDuckHunt Nov 27 '24
and the fact he can use company funds for personal protection just irks me
yes yes I know all the arguments, but it all comes down to "his protection". He's very replaceable at his places of work. CEOs get replaced on a regular basis. Heck Tesla, Twitter, and SpaceX would probably be in a better financial situation if he wasn't CEO anymore, it'd be an upgrade.
Aren't CEOs always saying "everyone is replaceable, including themselves?"
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u/JaesenMoreaux Nov 27 '24
Can we crowdfund the guy that punched Richard Spencer for one more incident of patriotism?
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u/g1t0ffmylawn Nov 27 '24
You’re not advocating he get punched in the face. But you aren’t advocating that he not not get punched in the face.
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u/IceNein Nov 27 '24
Hopefully he gets the Giuliani treatment when these people invariably start getting death threats.
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u/different_tom Nov 27 '24
He has too much money for that. He can literally pay for people's affections
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u/ElectricalBook3 Nov 27 '24
He has too much money for that. He can literally pay for people's affections
If that worked his own daughter wouldn't have disowned him and called him the worst human alive
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u/driftercat Kentucky Nov 27 '24
The comments are horrible and every person celebrating how these women (he targeted women) are being treated should be doxed.
Fight fire with fire.
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u/dnen Connecticut Nov 27 '24 edited 29d ago
This guy needs to be made an example of when we’re done with this flirting-with-fascism phase. It’s a blessing these men are all absolute morons who were born into their stature and wealth and do not have the ability to re-make the government into project 2025 or whatever they’re going for. They’ll try; but we’ll try harder. Don’t lose faith in the government or institutions that 100k’s of us work for, that is their primary goal. Billionaires like Elon want to have an uncontrolled ability to buy anything, even the sovereignty of the state. They won’t come close. Avoid doomerism and keep your heads up
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u/Beasil Nov 27 '24
I think the flirting is over, America just voted to sleep with it.
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u/noforgayjesus Nov 27 '24
I don't think they care I work for a public utility company and my MAGA dad is always on about how we are lazy, do nothings taking away tax payer dollars and a private company can do it better because there are no civil service protections. Compares us to the DMV it's rather sad.
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u/TintedApostle Nov 27 '24
These people are not even in government or power right now. This is probably a violation of their rights too.
Welcome to fascism
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u/No_Animator_8599 Nov 27 '24
Musk will eventually blow up big time with Trump and his cabinet and Congress and will slink away to post random nonsense on X.
He’s already had major screaming matches with staff in Trump’s orbit and it’s a question of time before he’s ousted or quits (as will most of Trump’s cabinet as prior history shows from Trump’s first term).
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u/burnsalot603 Nov 27 '24
It seems like he feels like he is a key player in getting trump back in the white house so he can do whatever he wants. He bought X and turned it into the largest propaganda machine ever seen, I'm sure he didn't do that out of the goodness of his heart. He worked with the Republicans to push a certain narrative for years and I'm sure he's been privy to a lot of back room conversations and may know too much for trump to just throw under the bus like he has with everyone else. He can try but running over the richest man on the planet, who acts like a edgy 12 year old and owns one of the largest social media sites in the world isn't going to be as easy as Rudy Giuliani.
Leon melting down and posting all the dirt on Twitter would be amazing to witness though.
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u/W3NTZ Nov 27 '24
He could until now but Trump has no more need for him now that he's elected...
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u/One-Step2764 Nov 27 '24
...are we really pinning our hopes on the idiot prince's egotism to save us from the evil chancellor's machinations?
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u/imaginarion Nov 27 '24
Yep. Trump only cares about Trump at the end of the day. And with the SCOTUS ruling he’s immune to consequences basically for life, he can cut anyone loose at any time if he feels like it. So either Musk gets down on his knees and swallows that big-headed orange mushroom every time he is asked or he gets ousted from the inner circle.
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u/burntmoney Nov 27 '24
I wouldn't count on it. It's hopes like these is what got us where we are.
There were already reports of trump and musk fighting then a few days later they both went to Texas to watch SpaceX launch a rocket.
Our plan cannot be, "we hope these 2 will have a fallout". This plan is not working.
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u/Garlicluvr Foreign Nov 27 '24
So, the immigrant taking away your jobs was a truth after all.
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u/ArtSmass Nov 27 '24
That's what I keep telling all the dumbasses that I work with who voted for this chaos. Way to go guys, you self owned us all.
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u/tech240guy Nov 27 '24
Yeap, the ultimate immigrant is going to replace "people with jobs" with "robots with AI" (and he gleefully would, too!). But you know, boot-straps or whatever the fuck people are talking about.
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u/lyn73 Nov 27 '24
This story was also posted on Yahoo. I went to the comments....
Let me tell you the problem our country has.....
People are focusing on the wrong damn thing. Most of the comments I read were about the need to cut back, be more efficient, etc.
The problem obviously is that this man used his platform to publicize, harass, intimidate 4 government employees that did nothing to him/nothing to deserve what's probably coming to them (harassment, etc.). Elon will have the crazies after them...all because our open government laws have not caught up to technology (and its capabilities) and he has the power to use his platform to spread information.
People that work for the government 1. just want to do their job and get paid 2. might have decided this line of work because they wanted to help society.... They don't deserve that type of abuse. People who think they have the solutions to make the government more efficient usually have no clue as to what is going on and why.... These narcissistic pricks need to step back, shut up, learn and respect these people....
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u/Mrtorbear Nov 27 '24
I've been told off for being a government drone before - working from the inside to destroy the American people. All for being a government contractor. Y'all, I fuckin work for MEDICAID AND MEDICARE, aka dedicating the last decade of my life to getting my fellow Americans adequate health care. I am not the goddamn bad guy, but some people just assume government employees are part of some deep state.
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u/The_Lost_Jedi Washington Nov 27 '24
It's sort of like the foreign aid budget. It's a tiny trifling amount compared to what the government spends on stuff like social security/medicare/defense/etc, but too many people are utterly convinced it's some gigantic sum, like 20% or whatever.
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u/Aert_is_Life Nov 27 '24
How dare you make sure the other guy gets health care. You must be stoned in the city square at noon.
Sorry. I'll go to work now.
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u/logicalconflict Nov 27 '24
Ironically, the actual worst people in government are the ones being elected at the highest levels. That's where the real corruption lies and where the real waste, fraud, and abuse happens. But the ones who will suffer from this are the folks just trying to work hard to provide for their families and serve their country while making less money than they could working in industry out of a sense of patriotic duty.
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u/nsfw1777 Nov 27 '24
unfortunately laws don't "catch up" anymore because politicians are legally for sale in this country
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u/ElectricalBook3 Nov 27 '24
all because our open government laws have not caught up to technology (and its capabilities) and he has the power to use his platform to spread information.
There's really no solution to that until changing what protected speech is. Currently, lies and bullying are legally protected. The legal framework society is built on is going to have to change that, and I don't know if that's possible without a constitutional amendment because the courts are stacked with federalist society hatchet operatives. And as long as there are republicans to obstruct an amendment that's not going to happen either.
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u/Samazonison Arizona Nov 27 '24
Is what he's doing not a form of terrorism? Sure sounds like it to me.
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u/Working-Tell2747 Nov 27 '24
Hens voting for the Fox to guard the Henhouse... What could possibly go wrong?
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u/SubspaceBiographies Nov 27 '24
He’s the richest man in the world and has bought himself a president. He won’t stop till he’s stopped, he’s never been told no. This is why he’s so angry at his trans kid, they told him no and he can’t accept bc he’s never heard it. He’s a dangerous narcissistic sociopath and we’re all in his playground. Fuck him, his money and his ilk. We just need to eat one billionaire…
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u/sophriony Nov 27 '24
"Let's let a foreign national make high impact decisions in the US federal government"
How fucking stupid can you get
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u/Effective-Celery8053 Nov 27 '24
Oh you can get stupider. Like giving the same guy hundreds of millions in subsidies
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u/Quakes-JD Nov 27 '24
If the next Bond film does not feature a villain similar to Space Karen I will be disappointed!
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u/ClarkTwain Nov 27 '24
Moonraker is close, and I can see some similarities with the villain in Tomorrow Never Dies
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u/leginfr Nov 27 '24
How odd that all those targeted were women? Does Musk feel threatened by successful women?
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u/Altruistic-Ad6449 Nov 27 '24
Especially educated women with advanced degrees from MIT, etc.
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u/KosherTriangle Michigan Nov 27 '24
Yeah he keeps posting on X about women being more liberal and educated, definitely got a stick up his butt there.
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u/Ih8melvin2 Nov 27 '24
From the article:
Musk also called out the Department of Energy’s chief climate officer in its loan programs office. The office funds fledgling energy technologies in need of early investment and awarded $465 million to Tesla Motors in 2010, helping to position Musk’s electric vehicle company as an EV industry leader. The chief climate officer works across agencies to “reduce barriers and enable clean energy deployment” according to her online bio.
Excuse me while I go throw up for a while.
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u/Pxlfreaky Illinois Nov 27 '24
Id be careful about doing that. You’re going to need all the calories you can get very soon.
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u/Protect-Their-Smiles Nov 27 '24
Remember when Republican's cried about how un-elected actors and billionaires were controlling the US from ''the swamp''?
What is this then?
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u/RainbowandHoneybee Nov 27 '24
Is he even allowed to do that? What authority does he have to do this now?
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u/strawberrymacaroni Nov 27 '24
Federal employees names and salaries and positions are posted online. They always have been. He is taking advantage of this to endanger people.
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u/KhakiDockerman Nov 27 '24
Man I used to make $27,000 a year as a paraprofessional in a public school in a program for violent kids. Battling kids trying to kick the shit out of me every day. And when the salaries were posted on websites for the year random ass people would email be about how I was a drain on society.
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u/Alpacatastic American Expat Nov 27 '24
Yea when I worked in fed I could look up my boss's salary. There's a lot of information already posted online in the name of transparency. But if there's an asshole with a mic putting you on a list to try and harass that is not good. Glad I bailed from the states already.
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u/puggington Nov 27 '24
Who’s going to stop him? Our current government is impotent or unwilling to do anything, and our upcoming government will celebrate it.
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u/DoctorKangaroo I voted Nov 27 '24
Some meaningless watchdog group will just ask him nicely to stop. If he doesn't, a meaningless subcommittee will then convene and file a complaint and Musk will really be in trouble. Following a meaningless written warning that's mailed to him in two years, the American people will finally know justice.
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u/nonsensestuff Nov 27 '24
It's not lost on me that all of these people he's targeted are women.
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u/WarmJudge2794 Nov 27 '24
These are fathers, mothers, husbands, wives, friends.
In many cases these are individuals doing thankless jobs that keep the country functioning.
The fact that anybody celebrates mass layoffs is sad.
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u/ZapActions-dower Texas Nov 27 '24
These are fathers, mothers, husbands, wives, friends.
The article doesn't draw attention to it, but it was four women. So far, at least.
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u/randombrosef Nov 27 '24
So, let's just break this down; a piece of garbage hyper- privileged billionaire, who produces garbage products across all his involved brands, whose own children think is a piece of garbage, is attacking average middle-class working people who have bills, mortgages, loving families, and responsibilities to meet.
Buying or owning any of his products lessens a person by association.
He doesn't deserve his wealth and good fortune. Disgusting and deplorable scumbag move. No excuses.
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u/Kessarean Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24
It’s a federal crime under 18 U.S. Code § 119 to release personal information of protected individuals (like federal employees) with intent to threaten or incite harm.
Considering the amount of harassment they received (one erased their entire social media presence), it feels like there's plenty of intent.
I mean, he literally publicated stayed he thinks it's a waste of money and they shouldn't be employed. I feel like that qualifies as a threat or at the very least harassment.
The posts saw millions of views. These are average people in government jobs who didn't deserve to be in the spotlight like this.
Not to mention, Trump hasn't taken office and "DOGE" (such a stupid fucking name) doesn't exist.
Absolutely crazy.
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u/unhallowed1014 Nov 27 '24
Is musk taking all their pay after they’re gone?
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u/LingonberryHot8521 Nov 27 '24
It won't be as direct as that but the short answer is yes. He won't save the American tax payor a penny. He will just steal it. Like he's stolen everything his whole damn life.
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u/jimothee Nov 27 '24
It was really interesting to learn that with the Model X and Y being built off the platforms of the S and 3 (models already designed before Musk bought Tesla) basically means Elmo's only real contribution to a company he claims all the credit for is his self portrait, the Cybertruck
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u/Precarious314159 Nov 27 '24
The funny thing is that he loves to compare himself to Tony Stark as this revolutionary inventory of tech but he's actually just Obadiah Stane, the man behind Tony that copies all his designs but can only make inferior versions.
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u/StopLookListenNow Nov 27 '24
Two billionaire immigrants, E.Musk and R.Murdoch, are deciding and influencing how this country should operate.
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u/PhSuns2024 Nov 27 '24
Imagine if he held this rage for private health insurance CEOs, who are a huge contributor to gutting the working class. Oh wait we're not supposed to think of the working class....
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u/SagittariusIscariot Nov 27 '24
As a civil servant I have many thoughts on this and none are positive or organized or thoughtful yet so apologies if this sounds like a rant:
He’s a fucking asshole and I can’t wait for his inevitable firing. I can’t imagine even trumps cabinet want this idiot around. I will revel in his firing. Vivek and MTG too.
Also, the mere fact that this tool gets to have a say in which civil servants can stay or go is nauseating. What real work does he do aside from tweet and whine all day? He gets to put people’s lives at risk just to show he’s the big man? Fuck anyone who idolizes this man child.
And while we’re on the subject - I thought trumps cabinet hated immigrants? Oh, I guess only the brown ones.
Fucking hell. fuck anyone who voted for this shit. We had a great though very flawed system before. But soon enough there will be nothing great about it. Good luck to us. We’ll need it.
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u/Eagle4317 Nov 27 '24
Robespierre once pulled this stunt in 1790s France. I'll give you 3 guesses as to what happened next.
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u/Heliosvector Nov 27 '24
Why arent people more upset that a non american is spilling the name of federal employees on the net? This is the type of stuff that would get FBI at your door. He isnt american.
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u/jhk1963 Nov 27 '24
Musk needs to take his sorry ass back to South Africa
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u/Thief_of_Sanity Nov 27 '24
Joe Biden can do a lot of perfectly legal and cool things with his official acts while he's still president.
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u/Revolutionary_Owl670 Nov 27 '24
Are we seeing a new type of fascism coined, here? Neo-corporate fascism, perhaps?
The man isn't in government, yet he's making plays as if he is and is slowly but surely buying his way into power.
Fuck Elon Musk. Seriously.
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u/dasnoob Nov 27 '24
When Mussolini coined the term Fascist he described it as the merging of government and corporations. I would say from that pure definition the US has been fascist since at least Citizens United when we gave corporations unlimited ability to influence our politics.
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u/ElectricalBook3 Nov 27 '24
Neo-corporate fascism, perhaps?
Fascism was always corporatist
https://voxpopulisphere.com/2017/08/23/lawrence-britt-14-characteristics-of-fascism/
If you read the history of francoism or nazism or other fascist movements, those also heavily privatise.
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u/MakingItElsewhere Nov 27 '24
German companies LOVED slave labor from the camps back in the day
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u/T1Pimp Nov 27 '24
Didn't Elmo Musk get suuuuper pissy when people tracked his jet? Yup. So, typical "conservative" actions of rules for thee but not for me.
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u/No_Clue_7894 Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 27 '24
A much more sinister explanation must be taken seriously. we are witnessing a slow-motion coup, whose organizers need to go through the motion for the plan to work.
With think tanks playing a pivotal role in delivering that message.
Communication flows openly between Hungarian and conservative think tanks in the U.S. and then is funneled to members of Trump’s campaign staff, according to multiple sources close to the Hungarian government, all of whom spoke on the condition they remain unnamed out of fear of reprisal.
Who are the US federal workers that Trump, Musk want to trim?
The U.S. government employs about 2.3 million civilian workers, according to the White House personnel office.
Federal workers likewise are more educated: 54% have a bachelor’s degree or higher, compared with 40% of U.S. workers overall. About 30% of federal workers have served in the military, compared with 5% of the total U.S. workforce.
WHO DO THESE WORKERS WORK FOR?
National security-related agencies account for roughly 70% of the civilian workforce. The largest employers were the Department of Veterans Affairs, with 487,000 workers, followed by the armed services, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Justice Department.
Both seasons should be required listening for all students and Americans:
Ultra audio
Nothing new, it’s an old play book
This time the billionaires have big stakes in the ongoing wars.
R Members of Congress Invested in Raytheon Co. Raytheon develops missile defense systems
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