r/nottheonion • u/russtripledub • 3d ago
Former Abercrombie & Fitch CEO diagnosed with dementia, after being convicted of sexual assault charges
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/former-abercrombie-fitch-ceo-charged-sex-trafficking-dementia-lawyers-rcna185353Mike Jeffries coincidentally has dementia now
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u/Bezbozny 3d ago
lol literally the "Oldest" trick in the old person book. "You can't hold me accountable for my actions! I have dementia!"
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u/DIYThrowaway01 3d ago
It got Junior Soprano out of a jam
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u/Spaghettioso 2d ago
Some people are so far behind in a race they actually believe they're leading!
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u/Thomasina_ZEBR 3d ago
Rupert Murdoch pulled the "early Alzheimer's" stunt in a UK parliament hearing in 2011, but seems to have recovered.
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u/Pristine_Speech4719 1d ago
He was just following in the footsteps of Ernest Saunders, the Guinness fraudster who recovered from Alzheimers so completely he said he never even claimed to have it!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/forget-alzheimer-s-saunders-1388784.html
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u/WoolshirtedWolf 3d ago
That is correct. I can't remember if there is still a court case going against her.
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u/Slow_Fish2601 3d ago
He was already a piece of shit before dementia
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u/yungrii 3d ago edited 3d ago
Speaking of shit and dementia, here's my dementia story.
I was once working in a care center. A resident had turned, so it was said, from a gentle old lady into a raging dick from hell when her dementia came upon. Which, OK, brains are insane.
One day, a group of us were tending to her diaper. She had C. Diff at the time, a very active infection that often spreads in close quarters and causes digestive upset.
As we had her laid on her side, unclad and cleaning her up, she let out a huge fart. A wet, sickly, fart. It was so immense and projectile that we all just stared at each other sort of stunned for a few minutes.
The resident, this kindly looking grandma, broke the pause by saying, "how'd you like that, you motherfuckers".
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u/StandUpForYourWights 3d ago
And how did you motherfuckers like it?
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u/Shadowmant 3d ago
Yah motherfuckers. How'd you like it?
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u/Redleg171 3d ago
I worked in long-term care for over 15 years. When you've done it for a long time you realize that this type of thing is pretty common with dementia. There are usually enough other signs to distinguish them from just old assholes. That disease really is insidious in how it can completely change one's personality. I saw it happen to people I knew growing up. They were not the same person anymore. Imagine if every intrusive thought you ever had was something you just acted on, but all you have are incoherent intrusive thoughts while you are no longer living in the present. You think you are being attacked, and you are trying to defend yourself the only way you can. There are all sorts of things going on. That's not to say that it can't be played up in a situation like presented in the article.
I can remember back in the 90s and early 2000s where we were encouraged to create things like memory boards to help those with dementia reorient. If they talk about their mother, it was encouraged to try to bring them into our world by talking about what year it is, how old they are, and that their mother passed many years ago. It doesn't work. Instead, it tortured them. They'd then be reliving their mother's death, thinking they just died. It's generally accepted that it's not possible to reorient a dementia patient (depending on the progression) to time and place. You can do more subtle things, try to redirect them. You are better off stepping into their world than trying to force them into ours. It doesn't mean you have to lie to them, but if Mr. Smith is yelling at you to close the damn gate so the cattle don't get out, you go and close the damn gate!
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u/MKUltra16 3d ago
This comment thread is so strange. Yes, he could be faking it. And also, he’s super old and people lose impulse control preceding severe dementia. They’re also super easy to manipulate. People here are so confident. It’s weird.
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be in jail. I don’t know the details of the case. Just speaking to the neurological effects of dementia.
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u/Throwawayac1234567 3d ago
he was the guy that said fat girls shouldnt wear his "bougie" brand because they are too fat.
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u/cleansy 3d ago
How is this relevant though? Shouldn’t the trial be based on the time when he was in full control of his mind?
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u/ScorpionTDC 3d ago
You can’t have a trial if the defendant isn’t competent to stand trial currently
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u/awesomecubed 3d ago
But the headline says he was diagnosed AFTER being convicted. The trial already happened
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u/ScorpionTDC 3d ago
D’oh. I can’t read. I have no idea what the laws regarding that are. I could see there needing to be special accommodations or something, but yeah
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u/technounicorns 3d ago
I think he's trying to do the same as with Weinstein, to garner sympathy/pity for his illness in the hope that he will be released earlier.
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u/Allsgood2 3d ago
Also, Ron Jeremy. He did the dementia angle during hisbtrial.
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u/alexjaness 3d ago
Cosby went blind for his trial
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u/shanebayer 3d ago
Vincente “The Chin” Gigante, walked around his neighborhood in slippers and a robe, and was found to be a little more cogent than we were supposed to believe. It didn’t work.
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u/Bishop120 3d ago
Reddit headline is convicted but article is just charged and he’s still on trial. It’s 100% an effort to get out of trial.
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u/SophiaofPrussia 3d ago
There’s no way the trial already happened. He was only indicted like a month ago.
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u/ScrewAttackThis 3d ago
He hasn't had a trial yet. No clue why the submission title is different from the article. Not sure NBC would make that big of a mistake.
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u/9182747463828 3d ago
I wonder if he will become the 2nd person to be ‘cured’ of dementia? The first was Ernest Saunders after he avoided prison
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u/sheeopquay 3d ago
Just saw this post and was wondering if his miraculous recovery had been mentioned yet.
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u/SouthlandMax 3d ago
Funny how that happens. What a weird coincidence. Remember hiw Ron Jeremy was in "late stage" got released frim prison a while ago. from prison after being declared mentally unfit and released to a nice "private residence" ... been quiet since. So odd.
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u/privateTortoise 3d ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0ghgp4v?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile
It's a podcast from a BBC journalist who delved into his dodgy life and sycophants.
Before this all I knew was the shop staff are more up their own arses than any in Jermyn St (I'm a Brit).
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u/rkelleyj 3d ago
This is a crazy trend… rich and famous veer off into degenerate and sicko. Same with all the cults, it’s literally all about their d!cks.
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u/Imcrappinyounegative 3d ago
Ahhhhh the good ol’ feeble white man legal defense….cough….weinstein, girardi, etc.
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u/theexitisontheleft 3d ago
Tom Girardi tried to do the same. He got caught out though as he was faking big time.
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u/Inturnelliptical 3d ago
Oh, that was convenient then, so no signs of dementia before that, but I suppose if they let him of on compassionate grounds, he’ll make a miraculous recovery.
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u/Spez-S-a-Piece-o-Sht 3d ago
The rich paying off doctors so they can serve time at home after being found guilty. Eat the rich.
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u/gregaustex 3d ago edited 3d ago
He's 80, he already got away with it. What's anyone going to take from him, he had his twisted selfish life, he's on death's door. That's if the diagnosis is a ploy, more so if legit.
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u/bedwithoutsheets 3d ago
I hope they rot in prison and they're confused why they're there every day of the week
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u/EfficientAccident418 3d ago
Like Harvey Weinstein and Ron Jeremy, suddenly he has a degenerative disease as soon as he’s recognized as a sex criminal
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u/potential_human0 2d ago
Hot Take!
He had early-onset dementia since his 50s, but everyone around him were such boot-lickers they explained it away as "rich-guy eccentricity"
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u/fuzzyborne 3d ago
Ah yes, I'm sure he just 'forgot' not to traffic prostitutes. The poor little scamp.
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u/FlyingSaucerD 3d ago
So? Just hire someone to remind him he's a piece of shit every morning after waking up in prison
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u/AnE1Home 3d ago
I could tell he was a piece of shit way back in my early teenage years. Also he’s aged terribly.
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u/RickyBobbyBooBaa 3d ago
It is amazing how these nonses suddenly come down poorly when they are found out.
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u/magseven 2d ago
It's weird that dudes like him, Weinstein, Cosby, Ron Jeremy all get weak and shrivel up like vampires in a church the second they set foot in a court room.
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u/ShimmeryLite 2d ago
I want to see brain scans and a full neuro workup for the past year, and have a second opinion. Want to make sure he's not trying to get out legal issues due to medical conditions... Respectfully
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u/postvolta 1d ago
I remember when the super fucking ugly guy told everyone that his clothes weren't for ugly people
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u/Jeremiahs__Johnson 3d ago
What a convenient case of dementia. Perfect timing for the sex trafficker and rapist to potentially avoid trial for sex trafficking and rape.
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u/Darklord_Bravo 3d ago
I came here to say "Bullshit!" Then I saw this photo, and now I'm having doubts. I can't tell if he's just evil or completely insane. Either way, it sounds shady af.
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u/Reasonable_Spite_282 3d ago
He’s a psychopath with no remorse. Even approved of those two wongs make it white Abercrombie shirts well before any of this was known.
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u/NWObserver 3d ago
In that case, it sounds like he needs to be confined to a small room in a “gated residential facility” so he doesn’t wander off or get hurt🔒
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u/Toph-Builds-the-fire 3d ago
If this is true (these guys faking shit is practically hack at this point), I say that's a fitting and just end to his life. Just waking up in jail more and more confused until he dies. Fuck him.
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u/JoshyTheLlamazing 3d ago
At this point, he should be put down to send a message. You will be tried and convicted and executed if need be, regardless of status. I believe in mercy for sure. People that do horrendous shit, have a chance for rehabilitation. But if you're a billionaire CEO THAT'S 80! Solitary confinement with your demons. Seriously. Your sins maybe forgiven in heaven, but you didn't commit your sins there. You committed them here.
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u/J-Lughead 3d ago
How convenient.
Hopefully the Prosecution will have him examined by their medical experts.
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u/PoopieButt317 3d ago
Ask Rick Scott about being a protected CEO class. Massive Medicare FRAUD, and Senator.
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u/djankylosaur 3d ago
Cool. He can spend his time in an institution then, one where money doesn't get you good stuff.
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u/Madeche 2d ago
Rich old man with dementia can't be accountable for his actions? Ok good, take everything he and his family possess, and put it right into welfare for building shelters and helping those in need.
Fuck this, always some old ass piece of shit ends up being suddenly "caught", and coincidentally has whatever sickness that doesn't allow him to go to prison. Take everything they own.
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u/Davoswannab 2d ago
Is this like when Brett Favre announced his Parkinson’s when he needed sympathy the most?
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u/ecwagner01 2d ago
It's the old "He's got dementia and can't legally defend himself. He doesn't remember if he did it or not so we should let him go" defense.
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u/bumjug427 3d ago
Good! Send him to prison anyways and tell him it's a spa!