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President Biden Should Veto the Social Security Fairness Act Effortpost

Hello, and Happy New Year to everyone in this great, neoliberal community. Bless the shareholders and the fractional reserve banking system <3

This is my first "true" effortpost. I am not an academic or credentialed expert, just a mere political hobbyist and a human driven by curiosity. As such, please take my argument with a healthy dose of skepticism...but also an open mind :) I promise to return the favor!

Biden is expected to the pass the Social Security Fairness Act before his presidency is over, after the Senate passed the bipartisan reform in a 76-20 vote and the House passed it 327-75. I make the argument that Biden should break ranks with Congress and veto the bill once it appears on his desk.

Some Background

1.1 Expenses

For our international audience, I will provide a very brief review of how social security is structured. As you may already know, the purpose of social security is to provide a supplementary revenue stream to retired Americans, their dependents and survivors. As of 2023, the SSA has provided economic aid to over 67 million Americans, covering 20% of the population. In dollar terms, $1.38 trillion in benefits was given out for that year. If we exclude disability insurance (DI) and only look at old-age and survivors insurance (OASI), that figure is only reduced to $1.28 trillion. For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to lump both OASI and DI together, but understand that the same conclusions ought to stand even if DI figures were subtracted.

Sounds like big numbers! But is that actually a lot for Uncle Sam? Well, I'll present you the data.

Sticking to 2023, the U.S. spent $6.1 trillion in total outlays. (Note that this figure combines both mandatory and discretionary spending.) So around 21% of annual spending goes to the retired, disabled, and their loved ones, which makes Social Security America's most expensive program. For additional context, the same source tells us Medicare (the second-most expensive program, which also benefits the old/retired) was at $839 billion. If we combine the two, then that means 35% of our spending directly benefits the elderly. This is why so many people freak out about the "old-age demographic crisis" -- taking care of our fellow retired citizens is expensive!

(What about foreign aid, some may ask? According to the Brookings Institute, foreign aid spending was at a mere 1% with $63 billion in 2023.)

1.2 Revenue

OK. It's pricey, but we can't just let old people die. We need to make sure we have a way of paying for this! And indeed, that's what FICA/payroll taxes are for. It is important to note that the existing working population pays for the existing retired population -- there is no account with your name on it. This is a very, VERY common misconception but it is utterly wrong.

As the SSA puts it:

The money you pay in taxes isn’t held in a personal account for you to use when you get benefits. We use your taxes to pay people who are getting benefits right now. Any unused money goes to the Social Security trust funds, not a personal account with your name on it.

You should also note that payroll taxes aren't the only revenue stream. Interest from asset holdings and taxes on payouts also play a modest role as well, but the bulk of income (>90%) is from payroll taxes. Source.

Now, we can start digging into the numbers!

1.3 Solvency

From the SSA website:

Income from payroll taxes—An estimated 182.8 million people paid Social Security payroll taxes in 2023, and 186.7 million people paid Medicare payroll taxes. Income from payroll taxes accounted for approximately 90 percent, 97 percent, and 88 percent of OASI, DI, and HI total income, respectively.

and, more importantly,

In 2023, the OASI Trust Fund’s cost of $1,237.3 billion exceeded income by $70.4 billion. In contrast, the DI Trust Fund’s income of $183.8 billion exceeded cost by $29.0 billion. Combining the experience of the two separate funds, Social Security’s cost exceeded income by $41.4 billion.

And this is the problem. Starting in 2021, social security payments began to exceed revenue, and it is projected that this gap will widen. Since social security was profitable the prior 40 years, there is currently a trust fund which makes up the difference.

But that trust fund isn't infinite. According to the SSA's annual trustees report, if there is no course correction, there has to be a benefits cut in 2035, with 83% of benefits payable.

So what does this mean? If you're austerity-minded, you will say we should consider cuts now to even out the costs and minimize harm on in the aggregate across both today's retired Americans and the retired Americans of the future. If you're less austerity-minded, you may advocate to raise more revenue through some sort of change in the tax code.

Both make sense.

But one thing which should be obvious is that we shouldn't needlessly double-down in our current, unsustainable trajectory.

The Social Security Fairness Act (SSFA)

So what does the SSFA do?

From AP News:

Decades in the making, the bill would repeal two federal policies — the Windfall Elimination Provision and the Government Pension Offset — that currently limit Social Security payouts for roughly 2.8 million people, according to reports from the Congressional Research Service.

The policies broadly reduce payments to two groups of Social Security recipients: people who also receive a pension from a job that is not covered by Social Security and surviving spouses of Social Security recipients who receive a government pension of their own.

People who worked in state, local and federal government jobs have been heavily affected by the policies, as have teachers, firefighters and police officers, according to lawmakers and advocates.

Both provisions would be repealed by the bill, thereby increasing Social Security payments for many.

There are two "angles of attack" here, and I will pursue both.

2.1 Fairness

I'm going to start by addressing fairness.

The Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) applies to workers whose employers did not withhold taxes for SS payments.

Indeed, from our friends at the SSA:

The Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) can affect how Social Security calculates your retirement or disability benefit. If you work for an employer who doesn’t withhold Social Security taxes from your salary, any retirement or disability pension you get from that work can reduce your Social Security benefits. Such an employer may be a government agency or an employer in another country.

The Government Pension Offset functions in a similar manner, applying to pension holders who did not pay SS taxes:

If you receive a retirement or disability pension from a federal, state, or local government based on your own work for which you didn’t pay Social Security taxes, your Social Security benefits may be reduced. You may not receive any payment at all.

"Wait a minute! You pointed out earlier that social security isn't structured like a 401k or IRA retirement plan! Just because they didn't pay SS taxes doesn't mean they should be denied SS payments! Our moral obligation to the elderly isn't a function of how they treated their elderly back in the day!" - the smart reader who has been paying attention

In principle, this is a fair objection. However, I am actually going to emulate my lovely Rawlsian friends and retort with their standard social contract theory predicated on fairness.

Claim: To the extent the state can legitimately do so, it has an obligation to ensure one's quality of life and wellbeing is not a function of whatever generational cohort they were born in.

I will posit that any liberal who is approaching in good faith will find the above claim reasonable. By playing favorites and allowing existing retirees to disproportionately benefit relative to future retirees (tradeoff between benefits payments now vs in the future), we are in effect acting as a gerontocracy. Like any other societal structure where one class benefits at the expense of another -- and the class division is based on some sort of immutable, inherent characteristic -- this would be illiberal.

Pedantic? Yeah, it is. But even "little" things like this matters if we are serious in creating an open society.

2.2 Impact on Solvency

We will close by taking a look at the material impact. Maybe I'm just making a mountain out of an anthill!

We will use figures from the CBO. Looking at this PDF, we see that the CBO estimates a $196 billion increase in outlays as we go up to 2034. This figure does not include the cost of servicing debt -- AKA interest. If we go with estimates from the National Taxpayers Union, which include this additional cost, the figure balloons to $233 billion. But a quick google search indicates this may be a biased source. I'll be very generous and just say $200 billion to make the numbers easy.

That averages out to an additional $20 billion extra in spending every year for the next ten years. Or, if we stick to the $6.1 trillion for total U.S. government expenditure in 2023, we can say it's only a 0.3% increase. Not a lot of impact on the margin for federal spending.

But remember, the money comes from the trust funds. Consider this letter from the CBO to Senator Grassley, discussing the potential impact of the SSFA on the OASI and DI trust funds:

If H.R. 82 was enacted, the balance of the OASI trust fund would, CBO projects, be exhausted roughly half a year earlier than it would be under current law. (The agency estimates that under current law, the balance of the OASI trust fund would be exhausted during fiscal year 2033.)

So six months of (partial) lost income for our future retired Americans to pay even more money to our existing retirees -- despite the fact that they themselves didn't have to pay as much in taxes back when they were working.

Taking a step back, this one adjustment alone isn't going to be the straw that breaks any camel's back. But death by a thousand cuts is a real thing, and needless pieces of legislature like this contributes to it. The SSFA will not help our country in the long-run and it is a disservice to future generations.

President Biden should take advantage of the lame duck period and reject this bill.


Thank you for reading this whole thing! :) Constructive criticism is welcome and shall be taken in good faith.

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u/GaBeRockKing Organization of American States 5d ago

Cutting payroll taxes and SS INCREASES the net income of elders with children, because those children can then spend their time and effort caring for their parents instead of working to support freeloaders, and because less deadweight loss from taxation improves economic efficiency and lowers prices for labor and goods.

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u/BobertFrost6 5d ago

because those children can then spend their time and effort caring for their parents instead of working to support freeloaders

Totally wild that you think this is logical or feasible whatsoever. What I pay in SS taxes does not come remotely close to what it would cost me to personally try to ensure that my aging parents are cared for.

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u/GaBeRockKing Organization of American States 5d ago

You have all the pieces to the problem in your hands, and yet somehow have completely failed to put them together.

If it's impossible for a single adult to support two elders... Why are we perpetuating a system where people area clearly incentivized to only have a single child? I hate to break it to you, but your parents are freeloaders. They got all the financial benefits of having fewer children, and now expect the people who worked harder to have large families to subsidize them.

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u/BobertFrost6 5d ago

 If it's impossible for a single adult to support two elders... Why are we perpetuating a system where people area clearly incentivized to only have a single child?

First, people are not "incentivized" to specifically have one child, and that's not what my parents did. Second, plenty of people don't have children at all and they still deserve to be able to retire.

  I hate to break it to you, but your parents are freeloaders. They got all the financial benefits of having fewer children, and now expect the people who worked harder to have large families to subsidize them.

They paid into SS just like everyone else. SS is not tied to how many babies you pop out.

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u/GaBeRockKing Organization of American States 5d ago

> They paid into SS just like everyone else. SS is not tied to how many babies you pop out.

Yes! And that's exactly the problem! The default state of humanity is that you're incentivized to have children so they can contribute to your quality of life. Therefore guaranteeing a certain quality of life independent of how many children you have is effectively equivalent to an incentive to have less children, and spend your time on things other than childrearing.

>  Second, plenty of people don't have children at all and they still deserve to be able to retire.

I believe that all people deserve a certain quality of life regardless of their ability to work-- and for that, I prescribe UBI. I don't believe that old people specifically deserve to live better lives than young people just because you're old. If you're childless, and you want to retire, you can take the time you would have otherwise used to raise your own children to find renumerative employment and save up a nest egg-- or alternatively you can use that time to help raise other children in your community so that they will be willing to help you in your dotage. Parents have to work and parent. Infertility isn't a free pass to convert that parenting time into leisure time.

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u/BobertFrost6 5d ago

 Yes! And that's exactly the problem! The default state of humanity is that you're incentivized to have children so they can contribute to your quality of life. Therefore guaranteeing a certain quality of life independent of how many children you have is effectively equivalent to an incentive to have less children, and spend your time on things other than childrearing.

Humanity is driven to reproduce for the same reason as all organisms, life is driven to reproduce. It isn't "for contributing to your quality of life." This is America, people are free to choose what kind of family they want to have. Mind your own damn business.

 If you're childless, and you want to retire, you can take the time you would have otherwise used to raise your own children to find renumerative employment and save up a nest egg-- or alternatively you can use that time to help raise other children in your community so that they will be willing to help you in your dotage. Parents have to work and parent. Infertility isn't a free pass to convert that parenting time into leisure time.

Thats exactly what it is. Parenting isn't a free pass to demand free labor from your offspring later in life. Your choice to have kids is one of personal fulfillment-seeking. Others choose to seek fulfillment without children. This has no bearing on whether or not the government should ensure seniors are cared for and there should be 0 discrimination based on how many babies one had.

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u/GaBeRockKing Organization of American States 5d ago

Humanity is driven to reproduce for the same reason as all organisms, life is driven to reproduce. It isn't "for contributing to your quality of life."

Life is driven to reproduce by particular incentives. There's no magic switch in our heads that says, "okay now you've gotta have children." There is the interplay of competing factors like, "desire for food" and "desire for sex" and "desire for a promotion at work" and "desire for children to support me in my old age." Or at least, that's how I work. If you and your family are just mindless automatons with a broken "have kids" switch that sucks, but I don't see why I should be paying for the lifestyles of broken automatons.

This is America, people are free to choose what kind of family they want to have. Mind your own damn business.

Mind YOUR own damn business! Stop telling other people's children what to do.

If you really want to argue from libertarianism, then let's just agree to make participating in social security voluntary. We tax payrolls a certain amount, and distribute that taxation evenly among all elderly participants. That's a perfectly self-sustaining system, where it's impossible to have surpluses or deficits.

Thats exactly what it is. Parenting isn't a free pass to demand free labor from your offspring later in life.

And not-parenting isn't a pass to demand free labor from other peoples' offspring later in life.

Also, the fact that bad parents would get no support is a feature, not a bug. Social Security is an incentive to be an abusive narcissist-- if parents knew their retirements depended on how much their children loved them, they would be forced to make better choices.

 This has no bearing on whether or not the government should ensure seniors are cared for 

The government should ensure that EVERYONE is cared for. That's why we should replace social security with a UBI. Seniors aren't special.

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u/BobertFrost6 5d ago

 Life is driven to reproduce by particular incentives. There's no magic switch in our heads that says, "okay now you've gotta have children."

Thats literally how all life works. Of course some people choose to resist that instinct and not have kids, and that's their right. They shouldn't be punished for it.

 Mind YOUR own damn business! Stop telling other people's children what to do.

I didn't. If you want to help out your parents that's your choice.

 If you really want to argue from libertarianism, then let's just agree to make participating in social security voluntary. We tax payrolls a certain amount, and distribute that taxation evenly among all elderly participants. That's a perfectly self-sustaining system, where it's impossible to have surpluses or deficits.

I'm not arguing from libertarianism. A libertarian would never support a social safety net.

 And not-parenting isn't a pass to demand free labor from other peoples' offspring later in life.

No one is doing that. We democratically agreed to create a social safety net that protects our seniors whether they have kids or don't. No one is "demanding free labor" from their children or other children.

 Also, the fact that bad parents would get no support is a feature, not a bug. Social Security is an incentive to be an abusive narcissist-- if parents knew their retirements depended on how much their children loved them, they would be forced to make better choices.

Very silly. Plenty of parents were bad parents before social safety nets existed and no child should feel obligated to support their parents in their old age regardless of how good of parents they were.

Your life is your own. You do not owe your parents anything. They didn't have you as a gift to you. They did it for themselves.

 The government should ensure that EVERYONE is cared for. That's why we should replace social security with a UBI. Seniors aren't special.

Sure, I'm not opposed to expanding the social safety net. 

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u/GaBeRockKing Organization of American States 5d ago edited 5d ago

Of course some people choose to resist that instinct and not have kids, and that's their right. They shouldn't be punished for it.

This is the most self-centered framing imaginable. What's that line to being accustomed to privilege again? You do not have a divine right to other people's money.

I didn't. If you want to help out your parents that's your choice.

But if I don't want to help your parents, it's completely OK for the government to coerce me? You say, "we democratically agreed," but I didn't agree to shit. People born long before my time agreed that they'd force me to work on their behalf, just like they agreed to release as much CO2 as they wanted into the atmosphere because they'll be dead before florida is underwater.

Your life is your own. You do not owe your parents anything.

If I don't owe my parents anything, then I don't owe anyone's parents anything.

Sure, I'm not opposed to expanding the social safety net. 

Not expanding. I'm being very specific with my terminology here. Replacing. Old people have no special right to live lives of ease and pleasure. Keep UBI, expand medicaid to cover everyone, but cut social security entirely. Remove all forms of income and capital gains taxes, and replace them with Land Value Tax. And to keep it all solvent, pay for defense spending first, then medicaid, and then the rest goes to UBI. Politicians would be much more incentivized to cut costs and administer taxes efficiently if every single one of their constituents knows that bad policy is money straight out of their pockets.

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u/BobertFrost6 4d ago

 This is the most self-centered framing imaginable. What's that line to being accustomed to privilege again? You do not have a divine right to other people's money.

Non-parents pay for SS as well. It's their money.

 But if I don't want to help your parents, it's completely OK for the government to coerce me? You say, "we democratically agreed," but I didn't agree to shit. People born long before my time agreed that they'd force me to work on their behalf, just like they agreed to release as much CO2 as they wanted into the atmosphere because they'll be dead before florida is underwater.

It has nothing to do with my parents, but for all seniors and disabled folk. You didn't need to agree because your country agreed and there's no political appetite for getting rid of this. You're in the minority, deal with it.

 If I don't owe my parents anything, then I don't owe anyone's parents anything.

Yes, but you do owe the government taxes and they spend it on other people, even people who aren't parents at all!

 Not expanding. I'm being very specific with my terminology here. Replacing. Old people have no special right to live lives of ease and pleasure. Keep UBI, expand medicaid to cover everyone, but cut social security entirely.

Sure, I'm fine with expanding the social safety net in the manner you describe.

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u/GaBeRockKing Organization of American States 4d ago edited 3d ago

> and there's no political appetite for getting rid of this.

It's hilarious to me that you think I need to convince you to do something about social security. It's like you think it's the 1990s, where the economy is great, labor is cheap, dependency ratios are good, and all of that is forecast to continue indefinitely into the future. But in reality, social security payments will reduce 25% by 2037 without intervention. At the same time, we're facing more tariffs, less immigration, and a rising cost to service our debt. All of that will cause inflation to rise. So seniors will be getting paid less than ever, just as their money loses more and more of its buying power. All I have to do to win is nothing.

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u/BobertFrost6 4d ago

But in reality, social security payments will reduce 25% by 2025 without intervention.

By 2037, not 2025.

At the same time, we're facing more tariffs, less immigration, and a rising cost to service our debt. All of that will cause inflation to rise. So seniors will be getting paid less than ever, just as their money loses more and more of its buying power. All I have to do to win is nothing.

Lol. You are going to be sorely sorely disappointed if you think whoever gets elected come 2036 isn't going to act to make sure SS stays solvent.

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u/GaBeRockKing Organization of American States 3d ago edited 3d ago

By 2037, not 2025.

Good catch, edited.

Lol. You are going to be sorely sorely disappointed if you think whoever gets elected come 2036 isn't going to act to make sure SS stays solvent.

You are going to be sorely disappointed if you think working americans will ever agree to major new payroll taxes, ever. And as for the alternative-- continuous deficit spending-- we're already seeing the results of that play out. If this election was proof of anything, it's that americans hate inflation and will punish anyone even tangentially connected to it. All congress has to do is boil the frog: if no legislation is passed, the SS administration will have no choice but to let payments exactly match reciepts. It won't be a 25% drop in a single year... just a continuous reduction in payments for the forseeable future. Or alternatively, they'll just put the benefits start date back, and back, and back, until only the richest and therefore healthiest people have any hope of receiving it.

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u/WolfpackEng22 5d ago

"SS is not tied to how many babies you pop out".

Arguably it should. Having kids means you raised workers who will continue to pay into the system and support you while you're retired. Being childless means you are relying on others to provide the next generation to support you.

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u/BobertFrost6 4d ago

Very silly. Popping out a bunch of babies you barely take care of doesn't mean you are entitled to a slice of their adult labor.

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u/WolfpackEng22 4d ago

Most people take significant care of their children. It's an expensive and time consuming endeavor which has significant positive effects on the broader economy and retirement systems.

Controlling for income, People who have and raise children are contributing more to SS than the childless.

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u/BobertFrost6 4d ago

People who have and raise children are contributing more to SS than the childless.

No, they aren't. I am responsible for my own contributions to SS. Not my parents.