r/neoliberal • u/Currymvp2 unflaired • 7d ago

Scoop: U.S. raises concerns about attacks on minorities with new Syrian government News (Middle East)

https://www.axios.com/2024/12/30/syria-us-meeting-attacks-alawites

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u/kaesura 7d ago edited 7d ago

USA was 1000x worse in Iraq which this situation most resembles (literally both baathist dictators) . Within days of the invasion, USA soldiers had killed 17 peaceful protestors in one incident. USA soldiers had several massacres after that one . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah_killings_of_April_2003

And there was widesoread recreational torture by american soldiers in abu gharib , camp bucca etc

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u/namey-name-name NASA 7d ago

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/21/1164916991/looking-back-on-shocking-revelations-u-s-forces-tortured-iraqis-at-abu-ghraib

Yikes. Jesus fucking Christ.

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u/Loud-Chemistry-5056 WTO 7d ago

Fuck me, that shit is not the goods.

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u/namey-name-name NASA 7d ago

Fuck me

If you ever get sent back to 2003 and get put in an American Iraqi prison, you… uhhh… might get your wish.

American troops stripped Iraqi prisoners naked. They leashed them and forced them into contorted or sexual positions.

Like I’m trying not to sound like a leftist, but holy shit this is fucked.

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u/aquamosaica 7d ago

You may want to consider why you think acknowledging potential war crimes committed by US forces has anything to do with being a leftist…

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u/namey-name-name NASA 7d ago

Because leftists exaggerate western war crimes all the time like pearl clutching leaches right before glazing every authoritarian dictatorship known to man

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u/aquamosaica 7d ago

Yeah but the same tactics are used by right wing supporters of authoritarianism as well, such as Russia. It is also in their interests to denigrate the US and stoke internal divisions in our politics. I do understand this is a common criticism of the online left though. Just saying there’s no real correlation between leftist views and criticizing unnecessary violence.

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u/namey-name-name NASA 7d ago

I mean, maybe it’s just me but most rightists I’ve seen would sooner glorify US mistreatment of Iraqis than criticize it. They only really seem to have an issue with violence and war crimes when it’s white people being hurt.

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u/aquamosaica 6d ago

You are right about this, there probably IS a correlation between leftist views and calling this stuff out. Not sure if this is a bug or a feature of our political landscape lol

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u/namey-name-name NASA 6d ago

Probably both. They can garner media attention about human rights atrocities (given how much the media likes covering college protests) but I don’t think they have much sway over the general public anymore. If anything, the Columbia Palestine protests probably made pro-Palestiners look worse in the eyes of the public.

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u/Creative_Hope_4690 7d ago

That was a resort compared the Iraqi prison before. That prison was 10x better and rightfully became a big deal cause American expected more.

The real tragedy was it added no value at least with CIA prison they were trying to get intel here the army just went wild for fun.

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u/kaesura 7d ago

Ironically our camps are known as jihad university because of how much the inmates networked and planned with each other

Jihadists had the run of the prisons since they were the most organized and well behaved

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u/2017_Kia_Sportage 7d ago

Funnily enough, a similar thing happened in Ireland after the 1916 rising, when the British interned anyone suspected of being involved. They weren't when they went in, but after being interned with people who were they became a lot more sympathetic to their ideals.