r/neoliberal NATO Nov 17 '24

Pollster Ann Selzer ending election polling, moving 'to other ventures and opportunities' News (US)

https://eu.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/2024/11/17/ann-selzer-conducts-iowa-poll-ending-election-polling-moving-to-other-opportunities/76334909007/
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u/creaturefeature16 Nov 17 '24

I think that's why a lot of leftists are falling to the same election fraud conspiracies as Trump supporters did. Between polls like Selzer, Jon Ralston election prediction (first time he was wrong in 10 years), Trump's weird comments about "we don't even need your votes" and acting like he didn't even care towards the end...it seems surprising that he won.

But at the end of the day, I think the polls were indeed correct this time. It was very close with a MOE that bent in Trump's favor....CNN did a bunch of forecasting and showed this exact scenario playing out if the polling error was in Trump's favor.

Turns out: the American electorate is far more binary than we thought, and having your unpopular candidate drop out of the race in the last 3 months if an election, only to be replaced by another unpopular candidate that nobody asked for, demotivates a big chunk of your base.

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u/justthekoufax Nov 17 '24 edited Nov 17 '24

I personally don’t think Biden is that unpopular. Seeing that no Dem ticket has won in 30 years without him on it.

Edit: Damn I said it was a personal opinion, but thank you for all the supportive comments! 😘

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u/chillinwithmoes Nov 17 '24

Are we really pretending that Barack fucking Obama needed Biden

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u/AnnoyedCrustacean NATO Nov 17 '24

White guy poll bump

Shame it didn't work for Harris / Walz