r/neoliberal Oct 08 '24

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u/captmonkey Henry George Oct 08 '24

This whole article makes Biden and his administration sound cool as fuck. Why isn't this the stuff we're seeing in the news? When Russia was considering using tactical nukes in Ukraine:

The book recounts a tense phone call between Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and his Russian counterpart in October 2022.

“If you did this, all the restraints that we have been operating under in Ukraine would be reconsidered,” Austin said to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, according to Woodward. “This would isolate Russia on the world stage to a degree you Russians cannot fully appreciate.”

“I don’t take kindly to being threatened,” Shoigu responded.

“Mr. Minister,” Austin said, according to Woodward, “I am the leader of the most powerful military in the history of the world. I don’t make threats.”

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u/Ironlion45 Immanuel Kant Oct 08 '24

Something Russia's propaganda misses with. The weak make threats, the strong give warnings.

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u/Futski A Leopard 1 a day keeps the hooligans away Oct 08 '24

, the strong give warnings

Not necessarily, see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%27s_final_warning

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u/Ironlion45 Immanuel Kant Oct 09 '24

A threat by any other name is still a threat; that's how I'd answer that.

Russias "Red lines" are sometimes characterized as "warnings" in the media today as well. They are not. :p