r/neoliberal • u/ghhewh Anne Applebaum • Aug 11 '24

Richard Dawkins lied about the Algerian boxer, then lied about Facebook censoring him Opinion article (non-US)

https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/richard-dawkins-lied-about-the-algerian
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u/SuspiciousUsername88 Lis Smith Sockpuppet Aug 11 '24

One side says, "Don't believe in things that have no evidence."

... Are you saying transphobia, even against people who aren't even transgender, is evidence-based?

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u/FourteenTwenty-Seven John Locke Aug 11 '24

Where'd you get that idea? Please don't engage in bad faith.

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u/SuspiciousUsername88 Lis Smith Sockpuppet Aug 11 '24

We're literally talking about a prominent atheist who engaged in transphobia, so it seems relevant

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u/FourteenTwenty-Seven John Locke Aug 12 '24

Accusing people of saying things they're clearly not saying is never relevant. It's arguing in bad faith - so don't do it.

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u/SuspiciousUsername88 Lis Smith Sockpuppet Aug 12 '24

Fair enough, what are you trying to say?

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u/FourteenTwenty-Seven John Locke Aug 12 '24

They were saying that the atheists arguing against religion were only seen as insufferable because religion is so ingrained in scociety. They're talking about whether loud atheists are cringe for being loud athiests - not for all their other takes (some of those obviously are cringe, to say the least).

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u/SuspiciousUsername88 Lis Smith Sockpuppet Aug 12 '24

That's an awful lot of claims that went unsaid

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u/FourteenTwenty-Seven John Locke Aug 12 '24

Not really, it's just what they said.

But because society is so lathered with religious rhetoric, you perceive the few who voice their disbelief as being just as bad as the people who try to enforce their belief.

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u/MarsOptimusMaximus Jerome Powell Aug 12 '24

Maybe I should've been two tiers less poetic

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u/SuspiciousUsername88 Lis Smith Sockpuppet Aug 12 '24

Well that quote certainly exists. Well done!