r/neoliberal NASA Jul 31 '24

Hamas's Ismail Haniyeh killed in Tehran home Restricted

https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-812649
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u/ForeverAclone95 George Soros Jul 31 '24

Seems bad for the potential of a ceasefire and there were some reports he was more moderate than the leadership in Gaza but not mourning him

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u/cinna-t0ast NATO Jul 31 '24

That is Gaza’s moderate? I thought it was bad enough that the moderate West Bank PM literally has a PhD in Holocaust denial.

It seems almost impossible for Israel to have a diplomatic relationship with “moderates” like that.

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u/Riderz__of_Brohan Eugene Fama Jul 31 '24 edited Jul 31 '24

Israel’s defense minister is a Kahanist settler who praised Rabin’s assassination and proudly grew up wirh a picture of a man who massacred praying Palestinians on his wall. Are we still pretending Israel has the same moral high ground it used to pretend it did? How are “moderate” Palestinians supposed to “deal” with a government that eschews anything other than ethnic cleansing and occupation?

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Jul 31 '24 edited Jul 31 '24

Ben Gvir is not the defense minister. Ben Gvir is the Minister of National Security but yeah he's a monster. he taunted rabin's granddaugher at a memorial, broke into rabin's car and said "we got into his car, we'll get to him next", has been convicted eight times of hate-crimes, went to a wedding where hundreds of people celebrated a palestinian infant being burnt to death, and his chief of staff donates money to israelis in prison convicted of violence against palestinians. the minister of finance also tried to blow up a highway and cars to protest israel withdrawing from gaza in 2005 and was detained for a month by shin bet. and then over a third of bibi's coalition government attended a conference which was clearly supportive of ethnic cleansing of gaza in january of 2024.

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u/thelonghand brown Jul 31 '24

He has also spent this month defending the IDF’s detention facility where innocent Palestinians were raped and tortured.

Mr. al-Hamlawi, the senior nurse, said a female officer had ordered two soldiers to lift him up and press his rectum against a metal stick that was fixed to the ground. Mr. al-Hamlawi said the stick penetrated his rectum for roughly five seconds, causing it to bleed and leaving him with “unbearable pain.”

A leaked draft of the UNRWA report detailed an interview that gave a similar account. It cited a 41-year-old detainee who said that interrogators “made me sit on something like a hot metal stick and it felt like fire,” and also said that another detainee “died after they put the electric stick up” his anus.

Mr. al-Hamlawi recalled being forced to sit in a chair wired with electricity. He said he was shocked so often that, after initially urinating uncontrollably, he then stopped urinating for several days. Mr. al-Hamlawi said he, too, had been forced to wear nothing but a diaper, to stop him from soiling the floor.

Ibrahim Shaheen, 38, a truck driver detained in early December for nearly three months, said he was shocked roughly half a dozen times while sitting in a chair. Officers accused him of concealing information about the location of dead hostages, Mr. Shaheen said.

Mr. Bakr also said he was forced to sit in chair wired with electricity, sending a current pulsing through his body that made him pass out.

His political party was arguing in the Knesset the other day that those actions were perfectly legitimate. Bibi has given him a lot of power he even has his own rogue police force he uses to fuck with Palestinians in the West Bank. Hamas is a genocidal death cult but Israel has plenty of objectively evil figures in power on its side as well. “Both sides are bad” is usually a lazy take but I believe it applies here, the whole situation is a nightmare.