Iran begins attack, launching dozens of drones that'll take hours to arrive

[u/Currymvp2]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-iran-begins-attack-on-israel-launching-dozens-of-drones-thatll-take-hours-to-arrive/

[u/[deleted]]

Actually the further back in history the more it becomes the fault of the British and the French. Before that it is the fault of the Ottomans. Prior to them it's the fault of the Mongols and before them it's the fault of the Abbasids. The fact that you think the US is the primary driver of modern middle east instability shows your recency bias and how shallow your understanding of the situation is.

[u/barktreep → u/[deleted]]

That’s not what recency bias is. You were the one who started going further back in time to avoid discussing contemporary issues. I just kept going to illustrate that it has no value, which you seemed to both agree with but also criticize. 

[u/[deleted] → u/barktreep]

LMFAO "Going back in time?"

To October?

[u/barktreep → u/[deleted]]

To the Iran Iraq war. 

It shouldn’t be controversial that things that happened more recently are more directly connected to what’s happening today. I track the modern day position of Iran to the Lebanon Israel wars since the second intifada, the Syrian civil war, and the Iraq war. Events that happened before that are important context maybe, but only to the extent that they led up to the events I listed. 

[u/[deleted] → u/barktreep]

Iran isn't trying to exterminate Jews because they want revenge for Mossadegh (whom the Ayotollahs hate anyway after he betrayed them in 1951 after one of their minions assisnated his predecessor on his behalf so he could become PM) they are trying to exterminate Jews because their leadership is furiously and viciously antisemitic.

Their is literally nothing that Israelis could do short of mass suicide that would appease the Iranian government and stop them from trying to destabilize the region. The only reason they weren't trying to destroy Israel prior to the late 80s was because they were preoccupied fighting Saddam Hussein and before that they were not yet in power.

[u/barktreep → u/[deleted]]

Now that’s an overly simplistic take. Like everyone else in the region, Iran uses Israel as a rallying cry to expand their influence. Their motivations are their own self-interest. 

[u/[deleted] → u/barktreep]

If their only motivation was their own self interest and expansion of influence they would target their proxies at Saudi Arabia which is their actual competitor for influence in the region.

[u/barktreep → u/[deleted]]

They’re a Persian country in an Arab neighborhood. They win a lot more friends attacking Israel than Saudi Arabia. 

If a SA/Iran war broke out, Israel would absolutely join in as well.

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If a SA/Iran war broke out Israel would sit back and enjoy popcorn.

And they hated Israel long before they started jockeying for influence in the region. Khameini's primary predecessor was ousted from the Levant for being openly pro-nazi in 1941.