Iran begins attack, launching dozens of drones that'll take hours to arrive

[u/Currymvp2]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-iran-begins-attack-on-israel-launching-dozens-of-drones-thatll-take-hours-to-arrive/

[u/BritishBedouin]

Israel has been officially at war with Syria since 1948. The Iranian consulate building in Syria was a military installation used to coordinate the movements and attacks of Hezbollah, Hamas and other militant groups who have attacked Israel in recent months. 

In my view it was a perfectly legitimate military target. 

[u/UnskilledScout → u/BritishBedouin]

Israel has been officially at war with Syria since 1948.

They have had a truce in place. This is a ridiculous excuse. By that logic, North Korea attacking South Korea is fine.

The Iranian consulate building in Syria was a military installation used to coordinate the movements and attacks of Hezbollah, Hamas and other militant groups who have attacked Israel in recent months.

Give me a break. You act like Iran is some sort of villainous puppet master controlling every movement of every proxy and this consulate was a critical point.

No, proxies by their nature are not controlled centrally, especially not Hamas. Hamas operates much more independently than people think. Iran supplies them because they are a group that will attack Israel, but that doesn't give them control over Hamas.

The closest thing to that is Lebanese Hezbollah, and, as I have explained in other comments in this thread, there was no material change on the ground between Oct 8 and the date of attack on the consulate/embassy/whatever the hell you want to call it. And if Hezbollah was the threat, you attack Hezbollah, and Israel has already been doing that.

[u/BritishBedouin → u/UnskilledScout]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Sweet summer child. Without Iran none of these groups - Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah, Hashd - would have even a modicum of power. All of these groups venerate Qassem Soleimani. He setup the Quds Force in a way that effectively coordinates these groups with everything from arms, financing, training, and yes, operations.

You are a FOOL if you think these groups primarily operate independently of Iran. Do you think the Houthis have the access or the know how to operate their drones without direct Iranian support???

The consulate was a legit military target given Hamas leaders, Hezbollah leaders and Quds force leaders met there.

[u/UnskilledScout → u/BritishBedouin]

Sweet summer child.

Alright, not gonna engage with you anymore.

Without Iran none of these groups - Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah, Hashd - would have even a modicum of power.

Ah yes, because the Arab-Israeli conflict started in 1979.

[u/BritishBedouin → u/UnskilledScout]

By 1979 Israel had made peace with its neighbours bar Syria, which was the first country in the region to recognise the Islamist regime.

These groups are Shia Islamist groups backed by Iran and armed by Iran. Ps: Iran aren’t Arab.

[u/UnskilledScout → u/BritishBedouin]

Hamas is Salafi and started as an offshoot from the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Oh and the PLO was still around for the record. Keep in mind, Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 chasing after the PLO.

[u/BritishBedouin → u/UnskilledScout]

Iran don’t back the PLO.

Hamas pays lip service to Qutbism, but for all intents and purposes its leadership are effectively Shia. They called Soleimani the martyr of Jerusalem despite what he did to Sunnis in Iraq and Syria. Unsure how that’s meant to be compatible with any Sunni creed.

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Iran don’t back the PLO.

That's my point

but for all intents and purposes its leadership are effectively Shia

This is delusional. They have persecuted Shias.

despite what he did to Sunnis in Iraq and Syria

Yea, don't bite the hand that feeds you, ya know.

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The PLO are neutralised though. They’re not doing shit.

This is delusional. They have persecuted Shias

lol the Hamas leadership prayed janazah in the front row of Soleimanis funeral despite knowing what he did to Sunnis in Syria and Iraq. They’re, for all intents and purposes, Shia who pay lip service to Qutbism.