r/neoliberal • u/GrandpaWaluigi Waluigi-poster • Dec 11 '23

The two-state solution is still best Opinion article (non-US)

https://www.slowboring.com/p/the-two-state-solution-is-still-best

The rather ignored 2 state solution remains the best possible solution to the I/P crisis.

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u/SnooChipmunks4208 Eleanor Roosevelt Dec 11 '23

The key to me is the usa forcing Israel to give a concession like stopping all new settlements to a peaceful organization to prove its viability.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

There were no and have been no settlements in Gaza for nearly two decades at this point?

Arguably Israel deciding to unilaterally disengage from Gazan settlements incorrectly led to a huge jump in support away from Fatah and towards Hamas in 2006, since the pullback was incorrectly assumed to be because of the Hamas's militancy

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u/SnooChipmunks4208 Eleanor Roosevelt Dec 11 '23

Building the wall around gaza and salami slicing the west Bank is not concessions, cmon.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '23

We're not talking about the West Bank? Hamas has not had any meaningful control over areas that have had settlements introduced since they've come to power in the civil war (yes I know they have cells in the WB but they're not running the show)

If pulling out of Gaza unilaterally isn't a concession I'm not sure what is? Putting up a border wall is hardly unique to Israel/Palestine and I'd argue the West Bank would 100% take a Gaza-style border wall over more settlements

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u/SnooChipmunks4208 Eleanor Roosevelt Dec 11 '23

Neither one can be discussed in a vacuum.

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u/subarashi-sam Henry George Dec 11 '23

There are a number of reasons why a vacuum is not the ideal environment for a discussion.